A couple of questions on Citizenship by Descent
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A couple of questions on Citizenship by Descent
Has anyone gone through this process? I've done a search of this site but unfortunately not found the answers I'm looking for.
I will find out on Sept 6th whether my work application for Australia has been successful and will start the Visa application process. As my mother in law is Australian, we are considering whether it's worth my wife applying for Citizenship by Descent (CbD) as I will need to obtain citizenship within 90 days of arriving in Australia due to the nature of the job, and the wife also wishes to gain citizenship.
So, the questions:
How long does the CbD process take on average?
If granted, will we both still need to apply for Visa's as we are UK residents?
If granted, will it have an impact (Positive or negative) on my Visa application?
Thanks in advance.
I will find out on Sept 6th whether my work application for Australia has been successful and will start the Visa application process. As my mother in law is Australian, we are considering whether it's worth my wife applying for Citizenship by Descent (CbD) as I will need to obtain citizenship within 90 days of arriving in Australia due to the nature of the job, and the wife also wishes to gain citizenship.
So, the questions:
How long does the CbD process take on average?
If granted, will we both still need to apply for Visa's as we are UK residents?
If granted, will it have an impact (Positive or negative) on my Visa application?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: A couple of questions on Citizenship by Descent
Has anyone gone through this process? I've done a search of this site but unfortunately not found the answers I'm looking for.
I will find out on Sept 6th whether my work application for Australia has been successful and will start the Visa application process. As my mother in law is Australian, we are considering whether it's worth my wife applying for Citizenship by Descent (CbD) as I will need to obtain citizenship within 90 days of arriving in Australia due to the nature of the job, and the wife also wishes to gain citizenship.
So, the questions:
How long does the CbD process take on average?
If granted, will we both still need to apply for Visa's as we are UK residents?
If granted, will it have an impact (Positive or negative) on my Visa application?
Thanks in advance.
I will find out on Sept 6th whether my work application for Australia has been successful and will start the Visa application process. As my mother in law is Australian, we are considering whether it's worth my wife applying for Citizenship by Descent (CbD) as I will need to obtain citizenship within 90 days of arriving in Australia due to the nature of the job, and the wife also wishes to gain citizenship.
So, the questions:
How long does the CbD process take on average?
If granted, will we both still need to apply for Visa's as we are UK residents?
If granted, will it have an impact (Positive or negative) on my Visa application?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: A couple of questions on Citizenship by Descent
No, I am not an Australian citizen, but have to start the paperwork to become one within 90 days of my arrival. My wife is the one who is planning to apply for Citizenship by Descent as her mother was born in Australia.
I'm just wondering whether it would be an easier route for my wife to obtain citizenship before we arrive rather than waiting for the usual (IIRC) two years of residency. Hence the question on the average time for the process to take, opposed to applying for Visa's as I understand this will be fast-tracked to a degree due to my employment. And as we are still in the UK, whether we would still need to apply for the Visa's making an application for Citizenship by Descent something to look into at a later date.
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Re: A couple of questions on Citizenship by Descent
Hi, thanks for the reply.
No, I am not an Australian citizen, but have to start the paperwork to become one within 90 days of my arrival. My wife is the one who is planning to apply for Citizenship by Descent as her mother was born in Australia.
I'm just wondering whether it would be an easier route for my wife to obtain citizenship before we arrive rather than waiting for the usual (IIRC) two years of residency. Hence the question on the average time for the process to take, opposed to applying for Visa's as I understand this will be fast-tracked to a degree due to my employment. And as we are still in the UK, whether we would still need to apply for the Visa's making an application for Citizenship by Descent something to look into at a later date.
No, I am not an Australian citizen, but have to start the paperwork to become one within 90 days of my arrival. My wife is the one who is planning to apply for Citizenship by Descent as her mother was born in Australia.
I'm just wondering whether it would be an easier route for my wife to obtain citizenship before we arrive rather than waiting for the usual (IIRC) two years of residency. Hence the question on the average time for the process to take, opposed to applying for Visa's as I understand this will be fast-tracked to a degree due to my employment. And as we are still in the UK, whether we would still need to apply for the Visa's making an application for Citizenship by Descent something to look into at a later date.
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Re: A couple of questions on Citizenship by Descent
Either your wife is a citizen already, albeit that the formal paperwork needs to be dealt with. Or she isn't (because she isn't entitled to be). If the former, she cannot have a visa, because these are only available to non-Australians. If she qualifies (as presumably she will with an Australian mother, unless there are any unusual issues), it doesn't matter how long it takes, because there is no other option. Although if she has all the paperwork she needs, I doubt it would take very long - almost certainly considerably less time than most permanent resident's visas would take to arrange.
Also, to be able to get your own citizenship in 90 days would be very unusual, given it normally takes at least 3 years. Are you sure this is a possibility?
Also, to be able to get your own citizenship in 90 days would be very unusual, given it normally takes at least 3 years. Are you sure this is a possibility?
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Unusual, but not unheard of.
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Either your wife is a citizen already, albeit that the formal paperwork needs to be dealt with. Or she isn't (because she isn't entitled to be). If the former, she cannot have a visa, because these are only available to non-Australians. If she qualifies (as presumably she will with an Australian mother, unless there are any unusual issues), it doesn't matter how long it takes, because there is no other option. Although if she has all the paperwork she needs, I doubt it would take very long - almost certainly considerably less time than most permanent resident's visas would take to arrange.
Also, to be able to get your own citizenship in 90 days would be very unusual, given it normally takes at least 3 years. Are you sure this is a possibility?
Also, to be able to get your own citizenship in 90 days would be very unusual, given it normally takes at least 3 years. Are you sure this is a possibility?
Thanks, it looks as if it makes more sense to get the Citizenship by Descent paperwork completed.
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Re: A couple of questions on Citizenship by Descent
Assume that her Australian mother is Australian born and not by descent herself in which case she would have had to have had a period of residence in Australia in order to pass citizenship down, she may have relinquished her citizenship if she took another citizenship of course in which case ..... Who knows where your wife would stand and also that he was n Australian citizen at the time of your wife's birth. Sounds like CbD is the way to go here if its straightforward.
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Either your wife is a citizen already, albeit that the formal paperwork needs to be dealt with. Or she isn't (because she isn't entitled to be). If the former, she cannot have a visa, because these are only available to non-Australians. If she qualifies (as presumably she will with an Australian mother, unless there are any unusual issues), it doesn't matter how long it takes, because there is no other option.
Such a person is entitled, if otherwise eligible, to obtain a permanent resident visa and become a naturalised Australian citizen after meeting normal residence or other requirements. Although such a pathway would be unusual, it is legal.
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Re: A couple of questions on Citizenship by Descent
Has anyone gone through this process? I've done a search of this site but unfortunately not found the answers I'm looking for.
I will find out on Sept 6th whether my work application for Australia has been successful and will start the Visa application process. As my mother in law is Australian, we are considering whether it's worth my wife applying for Citizenship by Descent (CbD) as I will need to obtain citizenship within 90 days of arriving in Australia due to the nature of the job, and the wife also wishes to gain citizenship.
So, the questions:
How long does the CbD process take on average?
If granted, will we both still need to apply for Visa's as we are UK residents?
If granted, will it have an impact (Positive or negative) on my Visa application?
I will find out on Sept 6th whether my work application for Australia has been successful and will start the Visa application process. As my mother in law is Australian, we are considering whether it's worth my wife applying for Citizenship by Descent (CbD) as I will need to obtain citizenship within 90 days of arriving in Australia due to the nature of the job, and the wife also wishes to gain citizenship.
So, the questions:
How long does the CbD process take on average?
If granted, will we both still need to apply for Visa's as we are UK residents?
If granted, will it have an impact (Positive or negative) on my Visa application?
1. Citizenship by descent can be granted at the Australian High Commission in the U.K. Every case is different but it can be quick, within a month or two. Note the requirement for police checks.
2. An Australian citizen does not need a visa (but does need an Australian passport). A non-citizen does need a visa.
3. Your spouse becoming Australian will not impact your visa application, except that she will not need to do a medical. It will give you the additional option of a spouse visa application instead of an employer sponsored migration visa, assuming that is your plan.
At this stage, assuming you are planning to get a permanent employer sponsored visa, you should probably continue as planned. Your wife can apply for Australian citizenship in parallel. If your wife becomes an Australian citizen after getting a visa, her visa becomes null and void but as long as you were the primary applicant, yours will be unaffected.
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Re: A couple of questions on Citizenship by Descent
Apologies to the OP for getting it wrong. JAJ is the guru, you are fortunate he saw this post and replied.....
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Re: A couple of questions on Citizenship by Descent
Just as a side note, if your wife did not go down the CbD route, your wife (and any dependant) will also be able to obtain citizenship,at the same time as you - once you have completed 90 days in ADF. The rules for this changed in January 2013 x
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Thanks for the replies everyone.
Jilliebee, that is a very interesting thing to know. It may be easy to just go for the Visa's then, as at least I'll know we should get them around the same time, if not the same day. More expensive, but peace of mind is worth a lot.
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Are you coming over as a lateral? If so, you'll get all your visa costs back if you are successful. Also, you,don't relinquish your UK citizenship. You get dual x
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The wife will get dual nationality; but I need to be an Australian citizen without any other ties due to what I do. Same over here in the UK, you cannot work in the field I work in if you have dual/foreign nationality. You wouldn't believe the hoops I needed to jump through work wise in the UK as my mother in law is an Australian national. Even the wife going for CbD can cause some issues for me here in the UK.