kkasunperera

In the Consolidated Sponsored Occupation List (CSOL) page 9 (http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...n/pdf/csol.pdf )has an occupation as follows.

242111 University Lecturer (Suitable for the position of Research Associate or Research Fellow in a University)

Can some one please give me a clarification on what is the "Suitable for the position of Research Associate or Research Fellow in a University" statement means. Does this means a person working as a Research Fellow (but not a lecturer) in a University is suitable for the "242111 University Lecturer" occupation ?

old.sparkles

It does seem to read that way. A quick check of the occupation code gives - http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]+and+Tutors

It is assessed by Vetassess who have it listed as a group A occupation requiring bachelor degree or higher, with a highly relevant major and at least 1 years experience in the last 5 years - http://www.vetassess.com.au/migrate_...occupation.cfm

kkasunperera

Hi old.sparkles

Thanks!
But description under 242111 UNIVERSITY LECTURER reads

Lectures students and conducts tutorials in one or more subjects within a prescribed course of study at a university AND conducts research in a particular field of knowledge.

But "research fellow" only conducts research in a particular field of knowledge. Will this be a problem in assessment of someone working as a research fellow under occupation "242111 University lecturer" ?

old.sparkles

You could try asking Vetassess if they have any info on the occupation code and assessment criteria, and asking if a research fellow would be successful

JoannaAch

IMO, you can get positive assessment if you can show (in the reference letter) that your responsibilities cover most (or at least half) of the tasks for your occupation: http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]+and+Tutors

Most Research Fellows perform most of the tasks mentioned there, like preparing lectures for PhD students, reviewing their work, advising them, going to conferences etc.
Are you working at the University?

kkasunperera

Hi JoannaAch Thanks for the reply!

I'm working in a institution attached to the University on a computer science research project funded by a research grant. My job title is "Research Fellow" and I'm working under a Professor in the University.

My tasks included research and software development including publications conference talks, supervising university intern students working on the project ect.

More precise to the task mention under occupation
preparing and delivering lectures, and conducting tutorials, seminars and laboratory sessions(NO)
preparing and marking essays, assignments and examinations(NO)
advising students on academic and related matters (Yes-Monitoring Undergraduate Interns)
attending departmental and faculty meetings, conferences and seminars (Yes Attending Conferences and Seminars)
supervising work programs of postgraduate and honours students and tutorial staff(NO)
participating in setting course and degree requirements, curriculum revision and academic planning(NO)
serving on council, senate, faculty and other committees and professorial boards(NO)
conducting research and undertaking consultancies in a particular field of knowledge (YES)
stimulating and guiding class discussions (NO)
compiling bibliographies of specialised materials for reading assignments (NO)

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BTW- ACS already accessed my skills positive as a Software Engineer and have already submitted my EOI. I'm trying to play tactically here, due to the pro-rate basis invitations for Software Engineer

spouse of scouse

Hi there.
This is an opinion only, I'm not an expert (well, I am in some things but not this ). I think you'd find it difficult to be assessed positively as a University Lecturer as you don't have any lecturing/teaching experience. I know that you supervise students working on a particular project, but that's quite different to teaching. It's my experience in WA universities that most lecturers are required to both teach and conduct research. I think OS's idea of seeing if vetassess can give you some more information is a good one.

I wish you the best of luck

JoannaAch

Hi,
It might be hard to get positive assessment if you are not doing any lecturing... In my institute every postdoc is responsible for preparing lectures for local interns and grad students, but I guess it depends on the place. You can try email Vetassess, but they usually reply that you should use the "advisory service" (or whatever that is called) for that type of inquiries.

Have you considered applying for SS with your current EOI? That might speed up the process...

kkasunperera

Thanks spouse of scouse and JoannaAch

Yes I have already send a mail to Vetassess waiting for their response.

Yes I have considered applying for SS. But NSW and ACT are currently closed for software engineer. VIC need 3 years experience as Software Engineer but I only have 2 years of experience. Other states probably need a job offer for off-shore applicants which is harder to get. May be I have to wait bit more

spouse of scouse

I know it's easy to feel discouraged but keep plugging away - you'll get there in the end!

kkasunperera

Thanks

BTW new Skillselect web design looks great ! http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/

kkasunperera

Got a reply form VETASSESS. The reply says teaching part is optional but it requires PhD level qualification. I don't have a PhD qualification but a Mphill student.

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Whilst research is an essential task for University Lecturer, DIBP has specifically stated on the Skilled Occupation List that the lecturing component is optional, allowing Research Associates and Research Fellows to nominate this occupation. These research positions would be post-PhD, but might not involve (much) teaching.
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susi_99

Hi,
Has anyone experience with getting a VETASSESS done.
I am currently on a 457 visa as University lecturer and I want to apply for PR visa 190 through State government. I need a positive skills assessment and was wondering if I need to put the same occupation down or if I can go for life scientist.
Thanks in advance.

Do I have to do the points test advice from VETASSESS when applying for 190 visa to get my PhD assessed?

Thanks!
If I meet all the criteria how likely is it getting the 190 visa.

To apply for a 190 visa do I need to get 8 points in each part of the IELTS test.

Do I need a police check for 190 visa

old.sparkles

If you meet the criteria for life scientist then you can apply for that occupation, remembering that Vetassess ask for work experience to pass the assessment. Points advice is optional.

All the information should be on the Vetassess site. If you are unclear, Vetassess are very quick and helpful in responding to queries.

If you meet the criteria for the visa it will be issued. If you do not meet the criteria then it wont. You first need to obtain a valid skills assessment, and IELTS if needed.

old.sparkles

To answer your other queries merged with the above post - yes you need to score 8 in IELTS for 20 points, and yes you need a police check from any country that you have spent a total of 12 months or more in, in the last 10 years. All the information is on DIBP website - Skilled Nominated visa (subclass 190)