Dorothy

Certainly not for complaints about another country's security agency.

I gotta say that if you rang me at my office to complain that your operation was taking too long to be scheduled at another hospital I would have to tell you to bog off. That has nothing to do with me or my hospital, so what do you expect me to do? Same goes for complaining to DIAC or ASIO that MI5 or CSIS is taking too long to do your security check.

sibhead

ASIO should negotiate with DIAC to produce a service charter for that purpose, it really isn't that difficult. Whilst the particular country's intelligence agency may provide information, it is ASIO that conducts the assessment and produces a report and provides confirmations to the questions on the Form 80. If, as a number of people on here appear to suggest, that there are no delays, the only way IGIS/ASIO can say this is if the peceived delay is due to their own processing.

sibhead

I said complaints, not complaints about another country's security agency, which may not be the cause of the delay anyway.

Tina7

In your estimation, what is the cause of the delay?

Dorothy

Ok, this thread has now started to get my blood pressure up so I am unsubscribing. The sense of entitlement of some posters has made me shake my head in wonder. It has been said many times over the years that a visa for Australia (or any other country) is a priviledge and as such people should be grateful that they have been considered for one, never mind bitching and moaning that they aren't getting their priviledges soon enough.

As a general statement, this part of the forum has gone so far downhill over the past 2 years that I can hardly believe it was the same great place I joined 5 years ago. What used to be a place for sharing information with like minded applicants it has now become a place where people come to whinge about how long ACS is taking or wanting to know why their visa hasn't been granted since don't DIAC know how important they are?! Instead of using the search facility (very handy and right at the top of every page) they ask the same questions in multiple threads.

I have to really hand it to people like Polly, MP and the wonderful Mr Lombard who come in here day after day and never lose their patience. In the past couple of years I have seen so many really helpful posters leave this forum who through PM and email have confirmed that it was due to the decline in poster etiquette.

Anyway, I've had my little rant so back to work for me.

sibhead

It would appear that those from certain countries, or in certain occupations, are indeed entitled to speedy processing and 17 months for what might have been a CSL application certainly is excessive, but it seems to you that no time period could possibly be so. There is no doubt that Pakistan is a country with serious issues, but it would appear that the bottleneck appeared, from what I saw on beupdate, from March/April 2009 onwards, and that detailed security checks were only conducted from that country from that time onwards. It would appear to have more to do with what happened to the Sri Lankan cricket team than anything else.

sibhead

I reckon it's a few things. I reckon for some countries they just do a simple check with organisations such as Interpol/Europol, in addition to requesting a simple database check of wanted people via that country's security agency. But I reckon for other countries, and I am guessing that Pakistan is one of them, the information requested from the country's intelligence agency is rather more detailed and relates to all sorts of personal details including political views/affiliations, for example, with a view to forming an opinion on the likelihood of political violence/protest, in addition to the obvious security concerns. I reckon they do a detailed assessment for the individual who is the subject of the Form 80 and standard database checks for all the other family members listed on the Form 80. Just my opinion.

I guess the interpol/international database checks must take a while. In the UK getting a PCC takes up to 40 days standard service and that's just for pressing a button.

sibhead

To be honest, I don't think integration is an issue, almost everyone who wants to go to Australia does so because they want to drink and get laid in the sun, that's the beauty of Australia and I very much doubt that those of a fundamentalist persuasion would want to go there anyway. I read somewhere on the net a while back that last year only 2 people out of 13,000 plus applicants received negative security assessments, with that in mind some streamlining of the process might not be a bad idea.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that anyone is just sitting on applications, but chucking "chip on shoulder" insults is hardly helpful. I daresay I recognise the mindset that goes with that kind of comment, but I wont say any more on that issue. As for the 12 month security assessment, you say nothing about what it is for or how it is relevant to the topic at hand.

luvausi

I would add . i think its the complex which some guys have in mind. these kinda statements shud come after Dec 2011 when the time expires. DIAC requested and gave you an indicative time that your application would probably be finalized till Dec 2011. if some one gets call early thats his luck or depends on the case. but Look putting alot of quries and inquries will get them disturbed and might be all other applicants bear the damage. So i would humbly request that make ur waiting mind. I think Immi shud be ur option than priority. life must go on.

God bless you all with every thing rest of ur life. patience is recommended

aliah

@gillgee

i got 3-4 months expected wait and after 4 months of that,i emailed and got this reply:

"Your application is still undergoing checks by an external agency. The
timing for the completion of these checks varies from one case to another,
depending on individual circumstances. I would anticipate that,
unfortunately, it may still be several months before these checks are
finalised. You will be contacted as soon as DIAC is advised of the outcome
of these checks"

that clearly tells the situation and DIAC has no control over it!!!
so u gonna need to stay calm anyways!!!

Pollyana

Are you serious? If so, I think you are in for a biiiig wake-up call when you get here

tatoo

Dear Aliah,

U applied in Jan 2010 then y r u expecting ur case decision this year as it is clearly mention on DIAC website that those who applied before July 2010 their cases will be finalized before Dec 2011. I suggest u to be releaxed and dont create panic. When DIAC/ASIO finished their checks they do contact u and finilaze ur case.

jkalyar

Gill Gee.. Why you needed to mention Pakistan name over here..you could have just said HR country! You are obviously a professional..and I assume knows and feels very well about the sensative times our Country is going through.....no doubt everyone wants a better future for their families, but in doing so one should be very careful that image of ones beloved country is not negatively portrayed...
Your point may be right..but your message tone is certainly conveying something very negative over here, which surely is not helping the cause...
I mayself is under CSL-175 from Pakistan, but do not agree with you to put up something like that to DIAC...
I trust them after agreeing with their Disclaimer while lodging my applicaiton..and will give them their due time..Moreover I know a couple of guys in my vacinty who have been granted visa under CSL...so surely you too, will soon get that soon...

tatoo

agreed.

AlliF

Wow, I didn't know Australia had just turned into a big club 18-30 destination!! I didnt get told that to drink and get laid in the sun was the reason for my visit - where do I sign up for the wristband??

Some of us do actually come here to work and experience a different culture you know.