Changes Police Checks the Netherlands

Old Apr 9th 2004, 2:24 pm
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Hi all,
The procedure for the request of the Police Clearance certificate in
the Netherlands has changed ! You now need an official document from
DIMA Berlin that you have to bring to the council. This document
should contain info about DIMA, about the applicant and about the
reasons why DIMA Berlin needs this certificate.

I know the Justice Dep. informed the councils in the Netherlands, but
I am not so sure they informed the DIMA Berlin !

I´ll call Berlin this Tuesday to see what is going on. I need the
certificate urgently and it seems that this new procedure will delay
the whole thing !

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Old Apr 13th 2004, 12:15 am
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Originally posted by Claire
Hi all,
The procedure for the request of the Police Clearance certificate in
the Netherlands has changed ! You now need an official document from
DIMA Berlin that you have to bring to the council. This document
should contain info about DIMA, about the applicant and about the
reasons why DIMA Berlin needs this certificate.

I know the Justice Dep. informed the councils in the Netherlands, but
I am not so sure they informed the DIMA Berlin !

I?ll call Berlin this Tuesday to see what is going on. I need the
certificate urgently and it seems that this new procedure will delay
the whole thing !

Claire
Is this the new official legislation, or is it a local government thing? I remember that different cities have a different approach to police clearance certificate requests. In Delft I just had to say why I wanted a pcc ("temp working visa for Australia") and they ordered one for me. 7 months later in Noordwijk (ZH) I had a hard time getting them to order one for me, because they wanted to see an official document (from DIMIA) requesting the pcc, which I didn't have (yet). Eventually I convinced them, but it took a while. BTW From memory, it takes about 2 weeks for the pcc to arrive in the mail...
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It's the offical new policy since April 1 (yes it is). Seems a bit silly to ask DIMIA to write you a letter that they might request PC's if you will lodge a visa application. Our local registry office could (would?) not help us unless we had a 'official request' from DIMIA :-(
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Yep.... (luckily we have ours already!)

See www.justitie.nl for details.
This is one part of it:
"Voor het aanvragen van een VOG in verband met emigratie, een visum of
werkvergunning gelden speciale regels. In plaats van of in aanvulling op
het aanvraagformulier is een officieel document van de ambassade, het
consulaat of de buitenlandse organisatie/instelling voldoende. Dit
document moet dan wel alle gegevens bevatten die op het aanvraagformulier
worden gevraagd."


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Originally posted by Claire
Hi all,
The procedure for the request of the Police Clearance certificate in
the Netherlands has changed ! You now need an official document from
DIMA Berlin that you have to bring to the council. This document
should contain info about DIMA, about the applicant and about the
reasons why DIMA Berlin needs this certificate.

I know the Justice Dep. informed the councils in the Netherlands, but
I am not so sure they informed the DIMA Berlin !

I´ll call Berlin this Tuesday to see what is going on. I need the
certificate urgently and it seems that this new procedure will delay
the whole thing !

Claire
Hi Claire,

Did you call Berlin? I'm really curious to know how this all turns out because I'll have to go and do the same in a few months. Hopefully it won't be too much of a problem and Berlin has some standard form for asking for a PCC. Let us know how this turns out.

Thanks,
Sander
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Hi Claire,
could you please tell me what the people in Berlin said? We would like to frontload our police checks, but it seems that will be very difficult now.
Thanks,
Sonja and Eric
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Originally posted by Simone82
Yep.... (luckily we have ours already!)

See www.justitie.nl for details.
This is one part of it:
"Voor het aanvragen van een VOG in verband met emigratie, een visum of
werkvergunning gelden speciale regels. In plaats van of in aanvulling op
het aanvraagformulier is een officieel document van de ambassade, het
consulaat of de buitenlandse organisatie/instelling voldoende. Dit
document moet dan wel alle gegevens bevatten die op het aanvraagformulier
worden gevraagd."


Good luck everyone!

Guys,
Stop panicking

If you read carefully it says if you don't wanna use the aanvraag formulier dan een brief of officiel dokument van DIMIA is nodig.

You can go to your local gemeente huis and request for VOG.
It's not required to get DIMIA write a letter...

Please go through it one more time...
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Originally posted by badri
If you read carefully it says if you don't wanna use the aanvraag formulier dan een brief of officiel dokument van DIMIA is nodig.

You can go to your local gemeente huis and request for VOG.
It's not required to get DIMIA write a letter...

Please go through it one more time...
Taken from justitie.nl:

"U vraagt een VOG aan door een volledig ingevuld aanvraagformulier in te leveren bij de afdeling Burger-/Publiekszaken van de gemeente waar u staat ingeschreven in de Gemeentelijke Basisadministratie (GBA). U ontvangt dit formulier van degene die u om een VOG verzoekt, vaak een werkgever. Deze moet op het formulier aangeven wat het doel van de aanvraag is."

The aanvraag formulier is downloadable, but still needs to be filled out by the DIMIA as far as I can tell.

Again from justitie.nl:
"In plaats van of in aanvulling op het aanvraagformulier is een officieel document van de ambassade, het consulaat of de buitenlandse organisatie/instelling voldoende. Dit document moet dan wel alle gegevens bevatten die op het aanvraagformulier worden gevraagd."

Or for emigration purposes a letter or official document from DIMIA is necessary which contains all the requested info for a VOG. This would imply that you _do_ need DIMIA to produce a letter or document.

What else do you suggest to take to the gemeentehuis?

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Originally posted by Sander
Taken from justitie.nl:

"U vraagt een VOG aan door een volledig ingevuld aanvraagformulier in te leveren bij de afdeling Burger-/Publiekszaken van de gemeente waar u staat ingeschreven in de Gemeentelijke Basisadministratie (GBA). U ontvangt dit formulier van degene die u om een VOG verzoekt, vaak een werkgever. Deze moet op het formulier aangeven wat het doel van de aanvraag is."

The aanvraag formulier is downloadable, but still needs to be filled out by the DIMIA as far as I can tell.

Again from justitie.nl:
"In plaats van of in aanvulling op het aanvraagformulier is een officieel document van de ambassade, het consulaat of de buitenlandse organisatie/instelling voldoende. Dit document moet dan wel alle gegevens bevatten die op het aanvraagformulier worden gevraagd."

Or for emigration purposes a letter or official document from DIMIA is necessary which contains all the requested info for a VOG. This would imply that you _do_ need DIMIA to produce a letter or document.

What else do you suggest to take to the gemeentehuis?

Sander
hoi Sander

Ik heb die ook gelezen
VOG natuurlijke personen
U wilt voor uzelf een verklaring aanvragen (op last van bijvoorbeeld uw werkgever) of u wilt een persoon (bijvoorbeeld een nieuwe werknemer) een verklaring laten aanvragen. Meer informatie vindt u onder:

Veelgestelde vragen over de VOG natuurlijke personen
Procedure VOG natuurlijke personen
Aanvraagformulier VOG natuurlijke personen
Brochure VOG natuurlijke personen

Jij kan ook de formulier download van de website
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Originally posted by badri
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Ik heb die ook gelezen
VOG natuurlijke personen
U wilt voor uzelf een verklaring aanvragen (op last van bijvoorbeeld uw werkgever) of u wilt een persoon (bijvoorbeeld een nieuwe werknemer) een verklaring laten aanvragen. Meer informatie vindt u onder:

Veelgestelde vragen over de VOG natuurlijke personen
Procedure VOG natuurlijke personen
Aanvraagformulier VOG natuurlijke personen
Brochure VOG natuurlijke personen

Jij kan ook de formulier download van de website
Beste Badri,

Ik heb het vanochtend allemaal gelezen en ook het formulier gedownload...maar nog steeds kom ik tot de conclusie dat ik nog een document van de ambassade moet hebben...

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Originally posted by Sander
Beste Badri,

Ik heb het vanochtend allemaal gelezen en ook het formulier gedownload...maar nog steeds kom ik tot de conclusie dat ik nog een document van de ambassade moet hebben...

Sander
Yup,

Nu ben ik met jullie allemaal meens maar welke soort dokument verwacht de mensen van Justitie dat is nog niet helder..

Moet wij aanvraag dimia de dokument testuuren...

Sorry ik had heel slechte ervaring achter de rug de met soort situtatie daarom will ik toch een keer bij mijn gemente huis willen uit probeeren..

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Originally posted by badri
Yup,

Nu ben ik met jullie allemaal meens maar welke soort dokument verwacht de mensen van Justitie dat is nog niet helder..

Moet wij aanvraag dimia de dokument testuuren...

Sorry ik had heel slechte ervaring achter de rug de met soort situtatie daarom will ik toch een keer bij mijn gemente huis willen uit probeeren..

Badri
Yes at city hall things are not always simple unfortunately...
But let me know how it turns out at your city hall...although I thought you had already sent everything in?

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Originally posted by Sander
Yes at city hall things are not always simple unfortunately...
But let me know how it turns out at your city hall...although I thought you had already sent everything in?

Sander

No
I just sent in my application I have to wait for the call ...

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Originally posted by Claire

I´ll call Berlin this Tuesday to see what is going on. I need the
certificate urgently and it seems that this new procedure will delay
the whole thing !

Claire
Hi Claire,

I was just wondering whether you had a response from Berlin yet? Seems to me that they should be able to help us resolve this issue?!

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Originally posted by Sander
Hi Claire,

I was just wondering whether you had a response from Berlin yet? Seems to me that they should be able to help us resolve this issue?!

Sander
Hi Sander,

I hope so to I tried DIMIA here they say contact Berlin..

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