certified copies
theres a load of confusion regarding certified copies
read the relevant information on the tra / visa application websites and certify the copies in accordance with the information given info of site Certified document. Documents that have been certified or guaranteed by a certifying person as a true copy of the original document. Certifying person. Your country has suitably qualified people who are able to witness your signature on a legal document, e.g. lawyer, doctor, policeman, school teacher. so who ever can sign a legal document in your country is acceptable i used a company director as in the uk any of the following can be used to sign an appication for a uk passport ( how legal do you want the document ) taken from UK passport web site Who can countersign my application? After you have completed the form in full, including section 9, section 10 should be completed and signed by one of the people below, or someone of similar standing in the community, who has known you for at least 2 years. The latest version of the application form asks the countersignatory to enter their current British passport number (Irish passport numbers are also acceptable). This is necessary to enable us to check identity. You should give the countersignatory your complete application together with photographs, documents fee and envelope, so that they can seal the application after completing section 10. (In the case of a child section 10 should be signed by someone of the relevant standing who has personally known the person who signs the declaration at section 9 rather than the child). Acceptable countersignatures: Accountant Articled clerk of a limited company Assurance agent of recognised company Bank/building society official Barrister Broker Chairman/director of limited company Chemist Chiropodist Christian Science practitioner Commissioner of oaths Councillor: local or county Civil servant (permanent) Dentist Engineer (with professional qualifications) Fire service official Funeral director Insurance agent (full time) of a recognised company Journalist Justice of the Peace Legal secretary (members and fellows of the Institute of legal secretaries) Local government officer Manager/Personnel officer (of limited company) Member of Parliament Merchant Navy officer Minister of a recognised religion Nurse (SRN and SEN) Officer of the armed services (active or retired) Optician Person with honours (e.g. OBE MBE etc.) Photographer (professional) Police officer Post Office official President/Secretary of a recognised organisation Salvation Army officer Social worker Solicitor Surveyor Teacher, lecturer Trade union officer Travel agency (qualified) Valuers and auctioneers (fellow and associate members of the incorporated society) Warrant officers and Chief Petty Officers now when i mentioned this last time i was shouted down by a load of I KNOW BETTERS and as i was new to this ( arnt we all at some stage ) i quitely crapped myself ( the visa application had already been sent ) so i emailed [email protected] i expalined why i had used a company director and to my suprise they emailed me back saying that it was quite acceptable as long as it was a person that would normally sign legal documents in the uk is was ok sorry its a bit long winded moral read the information on the application form and if in doubt ask some one who is iether a registerd migration agent or email the immigration dept - they are very helpful regards steve ps i have passed the TRA and have been granted my visa ( both using a company director ) |
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Originally Posted by steve`o
theres a load of confusion regarding certified copies
read the relevant information on the tra / visa application websites and certify the copies in accordance with the information given info of site Certified document. Documents that have been certified or guaranteed by a certifying person as a true copy of the original document. Certifying person. Your country has suitably qualified people who are able to witness your signature on a legal document, e.g. lawyer, doctor, policeman, school teacher. so who ever can sign a legal document in your country is acceptable i used a company director as in the uk any of the following can be used to sign an appication for a uk passport ( how legal do you want the document ) taken from UK passport web site Who can countersign my application? After you have completed the form in full, including section 9, section 10 should be completed and signed by one of the people below, or someone of similar standing in the community, who has known you for at least 2 years. The latest version of the application form asks the countersignatory to enter their current British passport number (Irish passport numbers are also acceptable). This is necessary to enable us to check identity. You should give the countersignatory your complete application together with photographs, documents fee and envelope, so that they can seal the application after completing section 10. (In the case of a child section 10 should be signed by someone of the relevant standing who has personally known the person who signs the declaration at section 9 rather than the child). Acceptable countersignatures: Accountant Articled clerk of a limited company Assurance agent of recognised company Bank/building society official Barrister Broker Chairman/director of limited company Chemist Chiropodist Christian Science practitioner Commissioner of oaths Councillor: local or county Civil servant (permanent) Dentist Engineer (with professional qualifications) Fire service official Funeral director Insurance agent (full time) of a recognised company Journalist Justice of the Peace Legal secretary (members and fellows of the Institute of legal secretaries) Local government officer Manager/Personnel officer (of limited company) Member of Parliament Merchant Navy officer Minister of a recognised religion Nurse (SRN and SEN) Officer of the armed services (active or retired) Optician Person with honours (e.g. OBE MBE etc.) Photographer (professional) Police officer Post Office official President/Secretary of a recognised organisation Salvation Army officer Social worker Solicitor Surveyor Teacher, lecturer Trade union officer Travel agency (qualified) Valuers and auctioneers (fellow and associate members of the incorporated society) Warrant officers and Chief Petty Officers now when i mentioned this last time i was shouted down by a load of I KNOW BETTERS and as i was new to this ( arnt we all at some stage ) i quitely crapped myself ( the visa application had already been sent ) so i emailed [email protected] i expalined why i had used a company director and to my suprise they emailed me back saying that it was quite acceptable as long as it was a person that would normally sign legal documents in the uk is was ok sorry its a bit long winded moral read the information on the application form and if in doubt ask some one who is iether a registerd migration agent or email the immigration dept - they are very helpful regards steve ps i have passed the TRA and have been granted my visa ( both using a company director ) I've just had some more stuff certified for the domestic skills assessment using a company director as well. They said it was fine, I e-mailed and asked. :) |
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Ok, well I am confused now. I just checked out DIMA's website and it says for the UK.
http://www.australia.org.uk/VTI/HTML/cert.html UK Solicitor Magistrate Notary Public Justice of the Peace Officer of the court appointed by a Judge to take affidavits |
Re: certified copies
Originally Posted by ElshaUK
Ok, well I am confused now. I just checked out DIMA's website and it says for the UK.
http://www.australia.org.uk/VTI/HTML/cert.html UK Solicitor Magistrate Notary Public Justice of the Peace Officer of the court appointed by a Judge to take affidavits http://www.workplace.gov.au/workplac...ms.htm#Certify |
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Re: certified copies
Originally Posted by ElshaUK
Ok, well I am confused now. I just checked out DIMA's website and it says for the UK.
http://www.australia.org.uk/VTI/HTML/cert.html UK Solicitor Magistrate Notary Public Justice of the Peace Officer of the court appointed by a Judge to take affidavits same government different web sites showing different information unfortunately this in my experience is common for example until very recently ( sometime last week ) the gov web site for ARTC applications clearly stated that if you had already applied for the TRA you only had to fill in part of the application form several members reported back that there applications had been returned as the form needed to be completed in full when the TRA where asked about the information on the web the reply was that it was out of date and would be updated shortly this took about four months that i know about i wonder how many part filled applications were returned during this time personally if your concerned email [email protected] as i did and ask the "horse" as it were regards Steve |
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Originally Posted by WendyC
and from the DIMA site http://www.immi.gov.au/gateways/agents/faqs/2.0.htm
thanks wendy they make it very confusing dont they?? no wonder it crops up as often as it does |
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hiya, we've been told that our vicar can do certified copies too.
with regards to the teacher, can it be any old teacher or a head teacher? thanks kat xx
Originally Posted by steve`o
thanks wendy
they make it very confusing dont they?? no wonder it crops up as often as it does |
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Originally Posted by Katsmajics other half !!!
hiya, we've been told that our vicar can do certified copies too.
with regards to the teacher, can it be any old teacher or a head teacher? thanks kat xx |
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The skills assessing body for engineers IEAust is quite strict
http://www.ieaust.org.au/find/osqa/r...0documents.doc |
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I find it all so confusing and contradictory....
Still think I will go with a Notary Public just to be safe :) I cannot believe that the DIMA site has 2 different examples of who can sign... Weird!!!! :) |
Re: certified copies
Originally Posted by steve`o
theres a load of confusion regarding certified copies
... Thanks for the information from all on this thread and it means I can now go and get my copies certified without being charged £5 a document as some of the local solicitors quoted. It doesn't help that all the references state Australian this and Australian that and not whether you can use the equivilent in a different country i.e. The UK!! |
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OK, got this from the ACS website regarding who can certify copies.
If the copy is to be certified in a place outside Australia - a person who is the equivalent of a Justice of the Peace or Commissioner for Declarations in that place. Please ask your local courts or Embassy for who is eligible from overseas. We do not have any lists with us. |
Re: certified copies
Originally Posted by graz79
That's an understatement.
Thanks for the information from all on this thread and it means I can now go and get my copies certified without being charged £5 a document as some of the local solicitors quoted. It doesn't help that all the references state Australian this and Australian that and not whether you can use the equivilent in a different country i.e. The UK!! I just phoned the local magistrates court. They will not charge as long as you give a couple of days notice and turn up before sessions start, Thanks |
Re: certified copies
Originally Posted by graz79
An update for all who are going to pay for the privelege
I just phoned the local magistrates court. They will not charge as long as you give a couple of days notice and turn up before sessions start, Thanks Firstly nice advice Steve 'O ! Just to add my tuppenceworth I rang our local magistrate court and they didnt seem to have heard of it. After a lots of holding on an 0871 number the girl reckoned £8 per copy, I kept asking if she was sure and "thats what Im told" ....Plus she said I could book it in for about 2 weeks time !!! Not Just Aus gov websites that have conflicting info ! ...So Im still searching round. |
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