cars need to be air conditioned?
Dec 20th 2002, 9:28 am
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cars need to be air conditioned?
i was thinking of importing my car to oz (melbourne).it has no air con.
would it be pointless to do this.i mean does every oz car have air con.i'm just thinkin about if i ever needed to sell it on
thanks
rday
would it be pointless to do this.i mean does every oz car have air con.i'm just thinkin about if i ever needed to sell it on
thanks
rday
Dec 20th 2002, 12:49 pm
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Re: cars need to be air conditioned?
Put it this way, its near 40c in Melbourne today! Yes you need air con.
Cars are cheap compared to UK and Europe, I bought a 6 month old demo model
Mitsubishi Magna for $20k on road (approx £7000). Air con, elecs,alloys,
etc. Sell the car, save on freight charges and buy one when you arrive.
Good Luck with the move!
"rday" wrote in message
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> i was thinking of importing my car to oz (melbourne).it has no air con.
> would it be pointless to do this.i mean does every oz car have air
> con.i'm just thinkin about if i ever needed to sell it on
> thanks
> rday
> --
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Cars are cheap compared to UK and Europe, I bought a 6 month old demo model
Mitsubishi Magna for $20k on road (approx £7000). Air con, elecs,alloys,
etc. Sell the car, save on freight charges and buy one when you arrive.
Good Luck with the move!
"rday" wrote in message
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> i was thinking of importing my car to oz (melbourne).it has no air con.
> would it be pointless to do this.i mean does every oz car have air
> con.i'm just thinkin about if i ever needed to sell it on
> thanks
> rday
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Dec 20th 2002, 6:37 pm
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Re: cars need to be air conditioned?
It's not just aircon you need to think about (and unless you're
Tasmania bound you certainly will need it) but also things like parts
supply, servicing, as well as any duties you'll have to pay.
Unless it's the same as a commonly owned model in Australia, there's a
real risk that its future resale value will be affected.
And if it's left hand drive, it's even more problematic.
Unless your car is really special, it's usually better to sell and
repurchase in Australia.
Jeremy
>On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:49:29 +1100, "Tommy Gunn" wrote:
>Put it this way, its near 40c in Melbourne today! Yes you need air con.
>Cars are cheap compared to UK and Europe, I bought a 6 month old demo model
>Mitsubishi Magna for $20k on road (approx £7000). Air con, elecs,alloys,
>etc. Sell the car, save on freight charges and buy one when you arrive.
>Good Luck with the move!
>"rday" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> i was thinking of importing my car to oz (melbourne).it has no air con.
>> would it be pointless to do this.i mean does every oz car have air
>> con.i'm just thinkin about if i ever needed to sell it on
>> thanks
>> rday
>> --
>> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
Tasmania bound you certainly will need it) but also things like parts
supply, servicing, as well as any duties you'll have to pay.
Unless it's the same as a commonly owned model in Australia, there's a
real risk that its future resale value will be affected.
And if it's left hand drive, it's even more problematic.
Unless your car is really special, it's usually better to sell and
repurchase in Australia.
Jeremy
>On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:49:29 +1100, "Tommy Gunn" wrote:
>Put it this way, its near 40c in Melbourne today! Yes you need air con.
>Cars are cheap compared to UK and Europe, I bought a 6 month old demo model
>Mitsubishi Magna for $20k on road (approx £7000). Air con, elecs,alloys,
>etc. Sell the car, save on freight charges and buy one when you arrive.
>Good Luck with the move!
>"rday" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> i was thinking of importing my car to oz (melbourne).it has no air con.
>> would it be pointless to do this.i mean does every oz car have air
>> con.i'm just thinkin about if i ever needed to sell it on
>> thanks
>> rday
>> --
>> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
Dec 20th 2002, 11:25 pm
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Re: cars need to be air conditioned?
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 07:37:01 GMT, [email protected] (JAJ) wrote:
>It's not just aircon you need to think about (and unless you're
>Tasmania bound you certainly will need it) but also things like parts
>supply, servicing, as well as any duties you'll have to pay.
Airconditioning is useful even in a place like Tasmania. Admittedly,
in that state it would only be useful for defogging the windows in
winter. My wife won't use the airconditioning here (Melbourne) for any
other reason than defogging the windows in winter. She complains that
it makes her ill...
I was using it today (40c) regardless because I like it...
>Unless it's the same as a commonly owned model in Australia, there's a
>real risk that its future resale value will be affected.
It would need to be a model commonly available here and, even then,
ADR's (Australian design rules) will make a difference.
>And if it's left hand drive, it's even more problematic.
>Unless your car is really special, it's usually better to sell and
>repurchase in Australia.
>Jeremy
Probably selling would be the cheapest option unless the car has some
sentimental attachment that would be strong enough to make you undergo
the cost and effort of importation.
Tom
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>It's not just aircon you need to think about (and unless you're
>Tasmania bound you certainly will need it) but also things like parts
>supply, servicing, as well as any duties you'll have to pay.
Airconditioning is useful even in a place like Tasmania. Admittedly,
in that state it would only be useful for defogging the windows in
winter. My wife won't use the airconditioning here (Melbourne) for any
other reason than defogging the windows in winter. She complains that
it makes her ill...
I was using it today (40c) regardless because I like it...
>Unless it's the same as a commonly owned model in Australia, there's a
>real risk that its future resale value will be affected.
It would need to be a model commonly available here and, even then,
ADR's (Australian design rules) will make a difference.
>And if it's left hand drive, it's even more problematic.
>Unless your car is really special, it's usually better to sell and
>repurchase in Australia.
>Jeremy
Probably selling would be the cheapest option unless the car has some
sentimental attachment that would be strong enough to make you undergo
the cost and effort of importation.
Tom
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You can't break even.
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Dec 21st 2002, 12:31 am
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Re: cars need to be air conditioned?
Life can not exist without air condition in Australia. If you're from
UK then you hardly would have seen temperatures greater than 29
degrees in summer. But you should be prepared for scorching summer
temperatures above 40 degrees in Oz.
rday wrote in message news:...
> i was thinking of importing my car to oz (melbourne).it has no air con.
> would it be pointless to do this.i mean does every oz car have air
> con.i'm just thinkin about if i ever needed to sell it on
> thanks
> rday
UK then you hardly would have seen temperatures greater than 29
degrees in summer. But you should be prepared for scorching summer
temperatures above 40 degrees in Oz.
rday wrote in message news:...
> i was thinking of importing my car to oz (melbourne).it has no air con.
> would it be pointless to do this.i mean does every oz car have air
> con.i'm just thinkin about if i ever needed to sell it on
> thanks
> rday
Dec 21st 2002, 1:37 am
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The A/C went kaput in my old Volvo. Actually it was the car's fan that went. The cost of repair wasn't warranted on the old car.
Replaced it with a mickey mouse fan that plugged into the ciggy lighter socket and managed quite adequately for several years without A/C. Driving from Brisbane to Sydney to Cape Trib often enough.
Don't get me wrong it's nice to have it and not having it may put off buyers but one doesn't NEED it.
Further to what others have said you might also want to investigate whether the octane mix of forecourt petrol is suitable for your vehicle.
Replaced it with a mickey mouse fan that plugged into the ciggy lighter socket and managed quite adequately for several years without A/C. Driving from Brisbane to Sydney to Cape Trib often enough.
Don't get me wrong it's nice to have it and not having it may put off buyers but one doesn't NEED it.
Further to what others have said you might also want to investigate whether the octane mix of forecourt petrol is suitable for your vehicle.
Dec 21st 2002, 3:12 am
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Re: cars need to be air conditioned?
On 21 Dec 2002 05:31:20 -0800, [email protected] (jeeva) wrote:
>Life can not exist without air condition in Australia. If you're from
Are you for real?
>UK then you hardly would have seen temperatures greater than 29
>degrees in summer. But you should be prepared for scorching summer
People unused to temperature greater than 29c will require a year or
two of acclimatisation. My wife can no longer tolerate the high
humidity levels of the tropics even though the first half of her life
was spent there. She prefers Melbourne's weather nowadays...
>temperatures above 40 degrees in Oz.
Temperatures in Melbourne do get over 40c at times but usually only
for a few days at a time. As a rule, when temperatures are as high as
that, the wind is from the North West and it's dry. That means the
humidity is low, very low. The humidity is what makes hot weather
unpleasant. Try the 30c temperatures in cities such as Bangkok,
Singapore or Jakarta when there's just about 100% humidity and you'll
soon get the idea. Your body gets rid of excess heat through the
evaporation of perspiration but the concept falls flat when the air is
already supersaturated.
Many years ago I was working near the edge of the Gibson Desert in WA.
Daytime temperatures were as high as to make 40c seem cool by
comparison. Temperatures in excess of 50c weren't uncommon. What I did
notice was that there seemed very little difference between 30c and
50c if the humidity was zero. All you needed to be aware of was the
possibility of dehydration so needed to drink vast quantities of water
(or other suitable liquids) along with mineral supplements.
If you're working or living in hot climates, it's far better to get
used to the temperatures. If you move from an airconditioned
environment to the outside and back frequently during the course of
the day, you'll find yourself coming down with more colds than you'd
ever think possible.
Tom
You can't win.
You can't break even.
You can't stop playing the game.
>Life can not exist without air condition in Australia. If you're from
Are you for real?
>UK then you hardly would have seen temperatures greater than 29
>degrees in summer. But you should be prepared for scorching summer
People unused to temperature greater than 29c will require a year or
two of acclimatisation. My wife can no longer tolerate the high
humidity levels of the tropics even though the first half of her life
was spent there. She prefers Melbourne's weather nowadays...
>temperatures above 40 degrees in Oz.
Temperatures in Melbourne do get over 40c at times but usually only
for a few days at a time. As a rule, when temperatures are as high as
that, the wind is from the North West and it's dry. That means the
humidity is low, very low. The humidity is what makes hot weather
unpleasant. Try the 30c temperatures in cities such as Bangkok,
Singapore or Jakarta when there's just about 100% humidity and you'll
soon get the idea. Your body gets rid of excess heat through the
evaporation of perspiration but the concept falls flat when the air is
already supersaturated.
Many years ago I was working near the edge of the Gibson Desert in WA.
Daytime temperatures were as high as to make 40c seem cool by
comparison. Temperatures in excess of 50c weren't uncommon. What I did
notice was that there seemed very little difference between 30c and
50c if the humidity was zero. All you needed to be aware of was the
possibility of dehydration so needed to drink vast quantities of water
(or other suitable liquids) along with mineral supplements.
If you're working or living in hot climates, it's far better to get
used to the temperatures. If you move from an airconditioned
environment to the outside and back frequently during the course of
the day, you'll find yourself coming down with more colds than you'd
ever think possible.
Tom
You can't win.
You can't break even.
You can't stop playing the game.
Dec 21st 2002, 6:04 am
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thanx all
i think i'll go for a new one in oz
cheers
rday
i'll buy a plug in fan incase it breaksdown
i think i'll go for a new one in oz
cheers
rday
i'll buy a plug in fan incase it breaksdown
Last edited by rday; Dec 21st 2002 at 6:08 am.
Dec 21st 2002, 2:03 pm
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Re: cars need to be air conditioned?
>On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 23:25:26 +1100, Tom Clasener wrote:
>On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 07:37:01 GMT, [email protected] (JAJ) wrote:
>>It's not just aircon you need to think about (and unless you're
>>Tasmania bound you certainly will need it) but also things like parts
>>supply, servicing, as well as any duties you'll have to pay.
>Airconditioning is useful even in a place like Tasmania.
It's useful in the UK too, but not necessary.
>>Unless it's the same as a commonly owned model in Australia, there's a
>>real risk that its future resale value will be affected.
>It would need to be a model commonly available here and, even then,
>ADR's (Australian design rules) will make a difference.
Might be worth investigating the feasibility if it's a right hand
drive European model that's sold in Australia, and you desperately
want to keep the same type of car. European luxury cars (Jaguar, BMW
etc) are as far as I know more expensive in Australia. Whereas if
you're happy to drive a Ford or a Holden (aka Vauxhall, Opel, GM) the
you're best to buy in Australia.
Even with a European car, it's important to do the sums thoroughly.
Jeremy
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
>On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 07:37:01 GMT, [email protected] (JAJ) wrote:
>>It's not just aircon you need to think about (and unless you're
>>Tasmania bound you certainly will need it) but also things like parts
>>supply, servicing, as well as any duties you'll have to pay.
>Airconditioning is useful even in a place like Tasmania.
It's useful in the UK too, but not necessary.
>>Unless it's the same as a commonly owned model in Australia, there's a
>>real risk that its future resale value will be affected.
>It would need to be a model commonly available here and, even then,
>ADR's (Australian design rules) will make a difference.
Might be worth investigating the feasibility if it's a right hand
drive European model that's sold in Australia, and you desperately
want to keep the same type of car. European luxury cars (Jaguar, BMW
etc) are as far as I know more expensive in Australia. Whereas if
you're happy to drive a Ford or a Holden (aka Vauxhall, Opel, GM) the
you're best to buy in Australia.
Even with a European car, it's important to do the sums thoroughly.
Jeremy
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
Dec 21st 2002, 8:31 pm
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Re: cars need to be air conditioned?
Hiya Rday
I am in Melb and I bought miself a likkle Barina (corsa to you) and it does not have aircon. It is not very pleasant not having aircon, but my boy and I have managed with the aid of the fan that plugs in to ciggy lighter so.. if you can afford it go for it, I unfortunately could not afford to a) buy a newer car, b) the time to look as I was pretty despo on a tight budget
Yvonne
I am in Melb and I bought miself a likkle Barina (corsa to you) and it does not have aircon. It is not very pleasant not having aircon, but my boy and I have managed with the aid of the fan that plugs in to ciggy lighter so.. if you can afford it go for it, I unfortunately could not afford to a) buy a newer car, b) the time to look as I was pretty despo on a tight budget
Yvonne
Originally posted by rday
i was thinking of importing my car to oz (melbourne).it has no air con.
would it be pointless to do this.i mean does every oz car have air con.i'm just thinkin about if i ever needed to sell it on
thanks
rday
i was thinking of importing my car to oz (melbourne).it has no air con.
would it be pointless to do this.i mean does every oz car have air con.i'm just thinkin about if i ever needed to sell it on
thanks
rday
Dec 21st 2002, 11:35 pm
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Re: cars need to be air conditioned?
Tom Clasener wrote in message news:...
> On 21 Dec 2002 05:31:20 -0800, [email protected] (jeeva) wrote:
>
>
> Are you for real?
>
No. I only meant to say most people in Oz opt for air con. at home and
in their cars - didn't mean to offend. I used to live in Bristol(UK)
and Sydney, so I just compared the weather contrast. I'm currently in
Poland on a bridge project for nearly 10 months, and here the temp. is
really biting sespecially when we get the north-easterly wind from
Russia. I rather prefer Aussy warm weather than this.
> On 21 Dec 2002 05:31:20 -0800, [email protected] (jeeva) wrote:
>
>
> Are you for real?
>
No. I only meant to say most people in Oz opt for air con. at home and
in their cars - didn't mean to offend. I used to live in Bristol(UK)
and Sydney, so I just compared the weather contrast. I'm currently in
Poland on a bridge project for nearly 10 months, and here the temp. is
really biting sespecially when we get the north-easterly wind from
Russia. I rather prefer Aussy warm weather than this.
Dec 22nd 2002, 12:48 am
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Lots of different prices for car air con - but we considered buying a 2nd hand one without and got a quote about $2000 to fit - proper garage etc.
I am in Sydney and enjoy the air con at the moment, usually when sitting in traffic on warm/hot days.
I am in Sydney and enjoy the air con at the moment, usually when sitting in traffic on warm/hot days.
Jan 20th 2003, 9:02 pm
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Re: cars need to be air conditioned?
PS Tasmania also gets hot in summer and I am sure most Taswegians use an
airconditioners in their cars on hot days like any other city or town in
Australia,
"JAJ" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It's not just aircon you need to think about (and unless you're
> Tasmania bound you certainly will need it) but also things like parts
> supply, servicing, as well as any duties you'll have to pay.
> Unless it's the same as a commonly owned model in Australia, there's a
> real risk that its future resale value will be affected.
> And if it's left hand drive, it's even more problematic.
> Unless your car is really special, it's usually better to sell and
> repurchase in Australia.
> Jeremy
> >On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:49:29 +1100, "Tommy Gunn"
wrote:
> >Put it this way, its near 40c in Melbourne today! Yes you need air con.
> >
> >Cars are cheap compared to UK and Europe, I bought a 6 month old demo
model
> >Mitsubishi Magna for $20k on road (approx £7000). Air con, elecs,alloys,
> >etc. Sell the car, save on freight charges and buy one when you arrive.
> >
> >Good Luck with the move!
> >"rday" wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> i was thinking of importing my car to oz (melbourne).it has no air con.
> >> would it be pointless to do this.i mean does every oz car have air
> >> con.i'm just thinkin about if i ever needed to sell it on
> >> thanks
> >> rday
> >>
> >> --
> >> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
> >
> >
> This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
airconditioners in their cars on hot days like any other city or town in
Australia,
"JAJ" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It's not just aircon you need to think about (and unless you're
> Tasmania bound you certainly will need it) but also things like parts
> supply, servicing, as well as any duties you'll have to pay.
> Unless it's the same as a commonly owned model in Australia, there's a
> real risk that its future resale value will be affected.
> And if it's left hand drive, it's even more problematic.
> Unless your car is really special, it's usually better to sell and
> repurchase in Australia.
> Jeremy
> >On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:49:29 +1100, "Tommy Gunn"
wrote:
> >Put it this way, its near 40c in Melbourne today! Yes you need air con.
> >
> >Cars are cheap compared to UK and Europe, I bought a 6 month old demo
model
> >Mitsubishi Magna for $20k on road (approx £7000). Air con, elecs,alloys,
> >etc. Sell the car, save on freight charges and buy one when you arrive.
> >
> >Good Luck with the move!
> >"rday" wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> i was thinking of importing my car to oz (melbourne).it has no air con.
> >> would it be pointless to do this.i mean does every oz car have air
> >> con.i'm just thinkin about if i ever needed to sell it on
> >> thanks
> >> rday
> >>
> >> --
> >> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
> >
> >
> This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
Jan 20th 2003, 10:56 pm
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On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:02:24 +1100, "Jo-Anne LINK"
wrote:
>PS Tasmania also gets hot in summer and I am sure most Taswegians use an
>airconditioners in their cars on hot days like any other city or town in
>Australia,
Err, no they don't. The hot days are a rarity... temperate conditions
reign supreme. Typically ten degrees colder tham Melbourne averages...
Tom
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wrote:
>PS Tasmania also gets hot in summer and I am sure most Taswegians use an
>airconditioners in their cars on hot days like any other city or town in
>Australia,
Err, no they don't. The hot days are a rarity... temperate conditions
reign supreme. Typically ten degrees colder tham Melbourne averages...
Tom
You can't win.
You can't break even.
You can't stop playing the game.
Jan 20th 2003, 11:30 pm
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Husband now sells New Holdens in Sydney - you have to wait extra time to get a car without air con! So much for those ads that say free air!
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