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Stu Ward Dec 7th 2014 7:13 pm

Bringing over your parents
 
Hi

We have been PR for around 12 months now, and wondering what the process of bringing over your parents permanently involves.
I'm an only child, so the thought of my parents growing old with little support concerns me. They are in reasonable health at the moment, but do have some long term medications that would carry over.

So the advice I am looking for is :

The process - What Visa is required
Time involved
Cost

Medicare - At 60+ with fully paid National Insurance in the UK they pay nothing for pharma products. What would be the case in Aus ?

Health Insurance - Can we get them put onto our policy. Or are there special companies that cater for new migrants of an more mature nature ?

Thanks all

Stu

Bermudashorts Dec 7th 2014 8:04 pm

Re: Bringing over your parents
 
There is a parent visa, but you would need to have been settled in Australia for two years before you can sponsor them for this. The cost is not far off $100,000 for the two of them and I believe it will take about 18 months or so for processing.

As you know, medicare is not the same as the NHS and prescriptions are not always free, that is something they would have to look into.

Regarding health insurance, I would hazard a guess that they would need their own policy (if they want health insurance), don't think you can stick four adults on one policy.

Grayling Dec 7th 2014 8:09 pm

Re: Bringing over your parents
 

Originally Posted by Bermudashorts (Post 11495436)
There is a parent visa, but you would need to have been settled in Australia for two years before you can sponsor them for this. The cost is not far off $100,000 for the two of them and I believe it will take about 18 months or so for processing.

As you know, medicare is not the same as the NHS and prescriptions are not always free, that is something they would have to look into.

Regarding health insurance, I would hazard a guess that they would need their own policy (if they want health insurance), don't think you can stick four adults on one policy.

They would have to pay full whack for medications. Discounts are only available to those who hold a concession card and they would need to have an Australian pension for that.....which requires 10 years residence.

They would be eligible for medicare cover.

verystormy Dec 7th 2014 8:54 pm

Re: Bringing over your parents
 
A few things.
The total costs for a CPV visa for two adults is now around $130k

As mentioned, they would not get any assistance with medications and I would look at the costs of these as some can be expensive - I have a couple of regular medications that are nothing special - an inhaler and a reflux pill - cost is not far off $100a month

There is only one visa option (well, there is technically the none contributory still open, but with a 56 year wait time!) so the visa would be the Contributory Parent Visa

It takes between 18 months and 2 years to process. So, from now, you are looking at up to 3 years.

Be aware that their UK pensions would be frozen at the level they are at on leaving the UK and would never increase.

If they have some health issues, then this needs to be investigated as to the effect on passing the medicals. The specialist migration agent for medical issues is George Lombard

Stu Ward Dec 7th 2014 8:55 pm

Re: Bringing over your parents
 

Originally Posted by Bermudashorts (Post 11495436)
There is a parent visa, but you would need to have been settled in Australia for two years before you can sponsor them for this. The cost is not far off $100,000 for the two of them and I believe it will take about 18 months or so for processing.

Please tell me there is at least 1 too many Zeros in that price !!!

Grayling Dec 7th 2014 8:59 pm

Re: Bringing over your parents
 

Originally Posted by Stu Ward (Post 11495476)
Please tell me there is at least 1 too many Zeros in that price !!!

Nope.....that is about right

TeeTMI Dec 7th 2014 9:02 pm

Re: Bringing over your parents
 
There are currently also the cheaper parent visa options, reinstated recently after being ceased. Although whether they will still be available when you become eligible is uncertain. Plus there are some major pros and cons to those option that should be considered and taken into account when deciding between the contributory and non-contributory parent options.

Stu Ward Dec 7th 2014 9:24 pm

Re: Bringing over your parents
 
We have been here for 6 years now. 5 on 457 and 1 into out PR.
I think this might count as being in excess of the 2 years

The Contributory (864) is coming up at just below $6K on the Dept of Immigration Website

Grayling Dec 7th 2014 9:37 pm

Re: Bringing over your parents
 

Originally Posted by Stu Ward (Post 11495498)
We have been here for 6 years now. 5 on 457 and 1 into out PR.
I think this might count as being in excess of the 2 years

The Contributory (864) is coming up at just below $6K on the Dept of Immigration Website

That is for the first charge....the application fee

The big cost is for the second charge.

The aged parent contributory visa is around the same as the non aged

Stu Ward Dec 7th 2014 10:11 pm

Re: Bringing over your parents
 

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 11495511)
That is for the first charge....the application fee

The big cost is for the second charge.

The aged parent contributory visa is around the same as the non aged

Damn, you are right

Thats a lotta $$$$

Alan Collett Dec 7th 2014 10:16 pm

Re: Bringing over your parents
 
Hello Stu.

Are your parents "aged" (as defined)?

Have a look at the age pension requirements here:
https://www.dss.gov.au/our-responsib...ts/age-pension

Best regards.

Stu Ward Dec 7th 2014 11:02 pm

Re: Bringing over your parents
 

Originally Posted by Alan Collett (Post 11495534)
Hello Stu.

Are your parents "aged" (as defined)?

Have a look at the age pension requirements here:
https://www.dss.gov.au/our-responsib...ts/age-pension

Best regards.

Alan

Dad and Mum are 62 and 60 so I don't think they are defined as "aged"

Grayling Dec 7th 2014 11:09 pm

Re: Bringing over your parents
 

Originally Posted by Stu Ward (Post 11495553)
Alan

Dad and Mum are 62 and 60 so I don't think they are defined as "aged"

They would not be eligible for the 864 visa then....one of them would need to be over 65.

They would need to apply for the parent contibutory visa 173/143.

Alan Collett Dec 7th 2014 11:16 pm

Re: Bringing over your parents
 
Yes, their permanent residency options are:

> Parent visa (subclass 103) - long processing time

> Contributory Parent visa (143) - expensive, processing time about 20 months

> Contributory Parent (Temporary) (173), leading to a 143 visa within 2 years of grant - also expensive; this strategy splits the total cost of the 143 into 2 stages, but is likely to cost more overall than going to the 143 straightaway

Note that a 103 visa strategy with longer stays in Australia as a visitor are possible, but the great unknown is how long the 103 application will take to reach a decision.

At the moment 103s (and the 804s for Aged Parents) with a queue date in 2008 are coming through to finalisation of processing. Queue dates are generally issued about 2 years after the lodgment of the application, once initial character and health checks have been undertaken.

Best regards.

quoll Dec 8th 2014 5:21 am

Re: Bringing over your parents
 
Do your parents want to move? Will they be financially comfortable and independent? Do they want to leave the home they've built and the social networks they've made? They're certainly young enough to make a move (younger than me!) but whether they could afford to is another matter. If it just for your convenience that you want them to move then I'd have a rethink - a lot of older folk end up being impoverished, more dependent on you than they would have otherwise been and socially isolated and the older you get it appears the stronger the urge to move back to your roots.

Sympathies, it's a bugger being an only child!


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