Balu

Hi,

I wish to enquire about the motivations and reasons behind the
decision of hundreds of thousands of people applying for Aussie PR. It
could be good weather ( for UK people), or employment opportunities (
for South Asians) ...what else ???

What are the other reasons for selecting Australia over..lets say
Canada or even USA ( if possible ).

Are most of the immigrants in Australia happy and satisfied? Is it
really worth the efforts and worries or is it a case of Good from Far
but Far from Good !

I am an Indian applying under the category of Accountant...and my
motivation is for better employment opportunities….. BETTER than
India but with accountants earning 35-40K initially especially for
Indians, is it a decent money to make your living ? Is there lot of
money in Australia after some experience or just a cool decent life?

Any thoughts.

Thanks a lot

Balu

sundarize

Balu,

For most Brits, the reason is simple and two-fold. The weather of course, and also the fact that Britain is literally bursting at the seams.

For me, Britain is on a downward spiral - people look back to the glory days and not forward. There seems to be an atmosphere where people look for the worst in everything (perhaps me included based on my words here!!!)

Canada offers space and good weather in summer, but for me, the winter is too cold and long.

USA is near impossible to get into. The work-ethic is similar to the materialistic competitive rat-race in the UK, so for me there would not be much of a change.

I suppose the grass is always greener on the other side, but you have to have at least one great adventure in your life.

Good luck in your own adventure!

Elena Aza

On 28 Jan 2003 07:34:41 -0800, [email protected] (Balu) wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > I wish to enquire about the motivations and reasons behind the
    > decision of hundreds of thousands of people applying for Aussie PR. It
    > could be good weather ( for UK people), or employment opportunities (
    > for South Asians) ...what else ???
    >
    > What are the other reasons for selecting Australia over..lets say
    > Canada or even USA ( if possible ).
    >
    > Are most of the immigrants in Australia happy and satisfied? Is it
    > really worth the efforts and worries or is it a case of Good from Far
    > but Far from Good !
    >
    > I am an Indian applying under the category of Accountant...and my
    > motivation is for better employment opportunities….. BETTER than
    > India but with accountants earning 35-40K initially especially for
    > Indians, is it a decent money to make your living ? Is there lot of
    > money in Australia after some experience or just a cool decent life?
    >
    > Any thoughts.
    >
    > Thanks a lot
    >
    > Balu


Hello Balu

I used to live in Sydney as a student, and now I'm wishing to apply
for the PR. I'm currently living in USA, and believe me, the quality
of life there it is much much better than here. Of course, here you
have a better salary, but it doesn't matter, the quality of live here
doesn't justify it.

The weather there its GREAT and another wonderful thing opposite to
here: the people makes you feel welcome.

I hope I clarify a little bit your point of view. Any way, I'll
recomend you to go there and have a look. You are closer than other
countries, so it would be a great idea to go as a turist and get the
main idea by yourself.

Good Luck

Elena

Tony Bryer

In article , Sundarize wrote:
    > For most Brits, the reason is simple and two-fold. The weather
    > of course, and also the fact that Britain is literally bursting
    > at the seams.

Perhaps also that when you translate most Aussie prices into
sterling they look cheap - housing especially. But wages are a lot
less too - though the money will go a lot further if what you
brought from the UK will let you buy a property outright.

As to bursting at the seams, AIUI the properties that have really
gone up in value in Australia (as in London) are little inner
suburb cottages where you live almost on top of your neighbour,
not nice houses on quarter acre blocks further out.

--
Tony Bryer

Lana

As a South American, I decided to go because of the following:

- less violence;
- good health care and public education (I know the Brits here all whine about how bad they are compared to the UK, but public hospitals here in Brazil run out of cotton and things like that... don't get me started!)
- possibility to set up a retirement fund and actually retire one day (with all the crazy economic plans here, sometimes the govt just seizes all your savings. And banks just go bankrupt and don't give people the money they had.)

I don't expect lots of money or even to get the jobs we are qualified for at all - I am prepared for people being so prejudiced against us "they won't even hire me to scoop dog poo off a kennel floor", in the words of an Australian online friend when she heard we wanted to immigrate (her reason for that was that "my English isn't even good enough for that"). I mean, if a "friend" of 3 years reacted that way, I am sure that potential employers will be even more prejudiced and hateful.

But we chose Australia simply because it was, for us, the easiest to get into. We checked New Zealand and Canada but they'd require that I get my skills recognised too, and not just my husband's. And we had an offer to go to the US 3 years ago on an H1B visa but it is temporary and would not allow me to work or study at all, so with what my husband would make only we'd have an even worse standard of living. Besides, I'd have to sit there for 2 years and literally do nothing all day. I'd be miserable and bored to death.

But we'd go to England or the US or pretty much anywhere else if it were as easy as Australia. My husband prefers Australia though, cause he grew up there, so that is another reason.

Rob

In Balu wrote:

    > What are the other reasons for selecting Australia over..lets say
    > Canada or even USA ( if possible ).

Canada's beautiful, but too cold in the winter for my taste.

I've lived for 2 years in the US and visited on numerous other
occasions. I have trouble relaxing in the US, the guncrime just
scares me silly. I also found that while Americans like to think
Britain is a society of classes, things are much worse in the US
with their financial class system of 'haves' and 'have nots'. Seeing
a mother with a bunch of toddlers on the side of the road begging
for "gas money" is a clear sign that something's not right.

As others have said, the UK's going to the dogs. I think the population
is relatively steady but there are millions of houses, shops and factories
getting built everywhere, mostly on green fields instead of on
disused industrial sites. Every new housing estate that springs up
adds a new roundabout to the service roads making driving from A to
B a nightmare.

All this building work is replacing permeable land with concrete and
tarmac. We then wonder why everywhere's suffering from record
flooding.

There's no long term vision in the UK. The two main political
parties are indistinguishable, so there's not a hope in hell that
things will improve for decades.

What I want out of Oz is space, peace and some weather to enjoy it.

--
http://www.hartill.net/Aus/links.html

Mono

[email protected] (Balu) wrote in message news:...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I wish to enquire about the motivations and reasons behind the
    > decision of hundreds of thousands of people applying for Aussie PR. It
    > could be good weather ( for UK people), or employment opportunities (
    > for South Asians) ...what else ???
    >

I have been told by an English ex-pat that Aus is OK if you don't want
a career -- If there's an Aussie in your dept and you go for
promotion, he or she will be ar more likely to get it than you are.
You will always be considered last even if you are better than the
other person. You should expect to earn less than the other
Australians in your office and will get smaller pay rises. It never
stops.
I would like to go to Australia for a few years to experience it.
Problem is that I am over 30, so I can't get an automatic 'cultural
exchange' visa -- I have to go he whole nine yards and do a
full-blown migration (I can come back to the UK whenever I like). Who
knows? I might settle.
    >
    > Any thoughts.
I suppose it doesn't matter where you come from - it's the same for
immigrants all over the world. No wonder they always tend to group
together into their own communities!
    >
    > Thanks a lot
    >
No problem.
    > Balu

Debora

Lana,
as a south american myself too (from Argentina, actually) I cannot
agree more with you.
After having taken the decision to emigrate before it's too late (our
age, our kids' ages, etc.), and not having a job offer anywhere to
facilitate a working visa, we were left with only 3 "decent" countries
where we could apply for a formal immigration process: Australia,
Canada, and New Zealand.
At first, Canada appealed us more (bigger economy, same time zone as
in our country :-), but then the cold shrugged us off.

Even though we have never been to Australia, everybody who's been
there says it's a very good country with a high standard of living (by
this I mean health, education, security), and then the climate
(Sydney's climate is very similar to our city's, for instance) made us
go for it.

Regards,
Debora

Lana wrote in message news:...
    > As a South American, I decided to go because of the following:
    >
    > - less violence;
    > - good health care and public education (I know the Brits here all
    > whine about how bad they are compared to the UK, but public
    > hospitals here in Brazil run out of cotton and things like that...
    > don't get me started!)
    > - possibility to set up a retirement fund and actually retire one day
    > (with all the crazy economic plans here, sometimes the govt just
    > seizes all your savings. And banks just go bankrupt and don't give
    > people the money they had.)
    >
    > I don't expect lots of money or even to get the jobs we are
    > qualified for at all - I am prepared for people being so prejudiced
    > against us "they won't even hire me to scoop dog poo off a kennel
    > floor", in the words of an Australian online friend when she heard
    > we wanted to immigrate (her reason for that was that "my English
    > isn't even good enough for that"). I mean, if a "friend" of 3 years
    > reacted that way, I am sure that potential employers will be even
    > more prejudiced and hateful.
    >
    > But we chose Australia simply because it was, for us, the easiest to get
    > into. We checked New Zealand and Canada but they'd require that I get my
    > skills recognised too, and not just my husband's. And we had an offer to
    > go to the US 3 years ago on an H1B visa but it is temporary and would
    > not allow me to work or study at all, so with what my husband would make
    > only we'd have an even worse standard of living. Besides, I'd have to
    > sit there for 2 years and literally do nothing all day. I'd be miserable
    > and bored to death.
    >
    > But we'd go to England or the US or pretty much anywhere else if it were
    > as easy as Australia. My husband prefers Australia though, cause he grew
    > up there, so that is another reason.

Castory

For myself living in France, I'm applying for PR in Australia because I
don't like the bahaviour of French (very selfish and conservative), I
appreciated the open mind and the respect of Australians. I liked the big
spaces and the place of nature (in towns, in the numerous national parks). I
also considered security, quality of life. I also choosed Australia because
there is no nuclear plant, I think that nuclear power for electricity is not
safe at all (there are still thousands of people suffering in Chernobyl,
some soils in europe are still very contaminated) and France has too many of
these plants, France wants to go for a new kind of nuclear plants instead of
investing in renewable energies.
But I also think that Australians (and people moving there) should do more
to have a real politic to protects nature and make an example of sustainable
living.
(http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au...,5894937%255E9
11,00.html)


"Balu" a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
    > Hi,
    > I wish to enquire about the motivations and reasons behind the
    > decision of hundreds of thousands of people applying for Aussie PR. It
    > could be good weather ( for UK people), or employment opportunities (
    > for South Asians) ...what else ???
    > What are the other reasons for selecting Australia over..lets say
    > Canada or even USA ( if possible ).
    > Are most of the immigrants in Australia happy and satisfied? Is it
    > really worth the efforts and worries or is it a case of Good from Far
    > but Far from Good !
    > I am an Indian applying under the category of Accountant...and my
    > motivation is for better employment opportunities….. BETTER than
    > India but with accountants earning 35-40K initially especially for
    > Indians, is it a decent money to make your living ? Is there lot of
    > money in Australia after some experience or just a cool decent life?
    > Any thoughts.
    > Thanks a lot
    > Balu

lidleony

yeah, i also want to go from my country because of the security, better life that i hope i can get. The better life here is not just about the money. I can settle with less money but i can always wake up the next day and knowing that i am still alive and my family is safe.

if you want money, USA is the best place....but now I am here in USA for study...but USA just not as appealing to me as Australia. Been to canada...its beautiful, awesome, but too harsh of the winter. When I went to Aussie,I was instantly in love with the country and the lifestyle. furthermore, like lana said....migrating to USA involves lots of headache over lawyers and INS....migrating to aussie or canada is better i think because the process is rather clear.....and not as smoky as USA's.

And for accounting jobs....i think everywhere the acctg job is not as highly paid as some other jobs....but it is at least stable enough. unless u want to work for the Big 3 auditor firms...u can have more money working there.