Anyone got RSMS Visa
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Arghhh, :curse: they've done it to us again! Our employer originally agreed to ENS and then 6 weeks down the line changed their minds not wanting a 3 year commitment.
Now we've been going down the RSMS route and they've decided they don't want to do the contract as being asked for by the agent. The agent says it must be a permanent job with 2 years min and have the relevant holiday and sick pay. We understood and told the company that we could be on casual contract ie no sick or holiday pay but higher rates so long as it was full time and 2 yrs or more.
Kinda like to be sure who's right? Been up half the night raging and researching!
Now employer wants to change the terms and make us permanent not contract. It means lots less money and no more security in reality, and less flexibility and we wanted to avoid it.
And I bet we have to pay the agent for what they've done even if we pull out !!! Not that our other options are great. (SIR or hope for another 457 til Nov for more points then 175 JUST before 45th birthday)
Safin
Now we've been going down the RSMS route and they've decided they don't want to do the contract as being asked for by the agent. The agent says it must be a permanent job with 2 years min and have the relevant holiday and sick pay. We understood and told the company that we could be on casual contract ie no sick or holiday pay but higher rates so long as it was full time and 2 yrs or more.
Kinda like to be sure who's right? Been up half the night raging and researching!
Now employer wants to change the terms and make us permanent not contract. It means lots less money and no more security in reality, and less flexibility and we wanted to avoid it.
And I bet we have to pay the agent for what they've done even if we pull out !!! Not that our other options are great. (SIR or hope for another 457 til Nov for more points then 175 JUST before 45th birthday)
Safin
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Re: Anyone got RSMS Visa
Arghhh, :curse: they've done it to us again! Our employer originally agreed to ENS and then 6 weeks down the line changed their minds not wanting a 3 year commitment.
Now we've been going down the RSMS route and they've decided they don't want to do the contract as being asked for by the agent. The agent says it must be a permanent job with 2 years min and have the relevant holiday and sick pay. We understood and told the company that we could be on casual contract ie no sick or holiday pay but higher rates so long as it was full time and 2 yrs or more.
Kinda like to be sure who's right? Been up half the night raging and researching!
Now employer wants to change the terms and make us permanent not contract. It means lots less money and no more security in reality, and less flexibility and we wanted to avoid it.
And I bet we have to pay the agent for what they've done even if we pull out !!! Not that our other options are great. (SIR or hope for another 457 til Nov for more points then 175 JUST before 45th birthday)
Safin
Now we've been going down the RSMS route and they've decided they don't want to do the contract as being asked for by the agent. The agent says it must be a permanent job with 2 years min and have the relevant holiday and sick pay. We understood and told the company that we could be on casual contract ie no sick or holiday pay but higher rates so long as it was full time and 2 yrs or more.
Kinda like to be sure who's right? Been up half the night raging and researching!
Now employer wants to change the terms and make us permanent not contract. It means lots less money and no more security in reality, and less flexibility and we wanted to avoid it.
And I bet we have to pay the agent for what they've done even if we pull out !!! Not that our other options are great. (SIR or hope for another 457 til Nov for more points then 175 JUST before 45th birthday)
Safin
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Re: Anyone got RSMS Visa
I was under the impression it had to be an actual contract, with the holidays, sick etc rather than casual. It is very hard to work out what is true and what isn't isn't it?
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I also think it is permanent for two years... sick and holiday (and superremuneration)
#125
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Been doing lots of research and talked with co agent. Theres nothing that actually says it must be permanent in immi website, booklets etc and apparently not in legislation either. That's just the way they have applied it to avoid the fruit pickers and that sort of casual. We are trying to make the case that as it's full time and as its for 2 years and as we are complying with legislation and workplace laws (albeit for casuals as we get a guareenteed loading in lieu of sick and annual leave) we are meeting the criteria...watch this space......
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Been doing lots of research and talked with co agent. Theres nothing that actually says it must be permanent in immi website, booklets etc and apparently not in legislation either. That's just the way they have applied it to avoid the fruit pickers and that sort of casual. We are trying to make the case that as it's full time and as its for 2 years and as we are complying with legislation and workplace laws (albeit for casuals as we get a guareenteed loading in lieu of sick and annual leave) we are meeting the criteria...watch this space......
Good luck and let us know how you go !! What area are you moving to?
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Also its the same as we came in on the 457 and that has the same criteria stated ie in accordance with workplace legislation......
#128
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We are already in hervey bay QLD on a 457. That expires end of oct as it was only for 1 yr
#130
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we've yet to do certification which is 2 weeks then lodge at Parramatta. Agent says they told him 3-6 months. Hopefully quicker end of scale as submitted complete with meds and police certs when onshore.
Who know when (or if ) we'll get to submitting anyhting at this rate though
But on the bright side at least we waiting it out here though
Who know when (or if ) we'll get to submitting anyhting at this rate though
But on the bright side at least we waiting it out here though
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we've yet to do certification which is 2 weeks then lodge at Parramatta. Agent says they told him 3-6 months. Hopefully quicker end of scale as submitted complete with meds and police certs when onshore.
Who know when (or if ) we'll get to submitting anyhting at this rate though
But on the bright side at least we waiting it out here though
Who know when (or if ) we'll get to submitting anyhting at this rate though
But on the bright side at least we waiting it out here though
#132
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It like a reasonably summers day here most days (21 degrees) and its the middle of winter! Though nights are colder. Had to wear a jumper a few times but laughed at locals saying it's freezing when it dipped briefly to about 17 in the day
Where are you heading?
Where are you heading?
#133
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Re: Anyone got RSMS Visa
Visa approved today!
Paper based may application - 119 RSMS
Paper based may application - 119 RSMS
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Re: Anyone got RSMS Visa
Congrats , how long did that take you?