xng

Is there no hope of getting a PR for professional workers above 45 and below 60 ?

I thought the retirement age is 60 and above ?

Why this age discrimination rule ?

Wendy

See this thread here

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=363542


there is a few options that you could look into.

xng

In that thread, it says that as long as you have a employer who is willing to hire you, there are no age restriction.

Can anybody confirm ?

Wendy

Yes that is correct.

Good luck in your search if that is the route you are going to take

xng

But it says here that applicants under employer nomination scheme must still be under 45 ???

http://www.immi.gov.au/migration/nurses.htm

Wendy

ENS http://www.immi.gov.au/migration/ens/exemptions.htm

RSMS Visa http://www.immi.gov.au/migration/rsms/exemptions.htm

Both these visa's have a exceptional circumstances clause attached. If you really are wanting to emmigrate then it is a possible avenue for you to follow.

Maybe the best thing for you to do would be to speak to a migration agent and discuss your options with them. I am not saying that you will be able to emmigrate, just that it is possible.

xng

The exception states:

"the position is essential to the operation of the business
and
the employer demonstrates that it is not possible to find a suitably qualified person younger than the applicant."

In majority of jobs, it IS possible to find a younger person. So this is age discrimination. Isn't age discrimination illegal in united states but not illegal in australia ?

Wendy

I'm not getting into any kind of debate on the ethics of DIMA or anyone else. I was merely trying to assist, you asked the question "Age 45 and above - no hope ?" and I merely pointed out that there is. I suppose it depends on how serious you are in emmigration, where there is a will there is a way.

Of course if your post is intended to stir up trouble then I'm afraid I can't help you

xng

My post is not to stir up trouble but just mentioning the facts that age discrimination is not allowed in US.

Anyway, it looks like the chances are very slim.

Thanks for your assistance.

Jam

    > > ENS http://www.immi.gov.au/migration/ens/exemptions.htm
    > > RSMS Visa http://www.immi.gov.au/migration/rsms/exemptions.htm
    > > Both these visa's have a exceptional circumstances clause attached.
    > > If
    > > you really are wanting to emmigrate then it is a possible avenue for
    > > you to follow.
    > > Maybe the best thing for you to do would be to speak to a migration
    > > agent and discuss your options with them. I am not saying that you
    > > will be able to emmigrate, just that it is possible.
    > The exception states:
    > "the position is essential to the operation of the business
    > and
    > the employer demonstrates that it is not possible to find a suitably
    > qualified person younger than the applicant."
    > In majority of jobs, it IS possible to find a younger person. So this
    > is
    > age discrimination. Isn't age discrimination illegal in united states
    > but not illegal in australia ?
    > --

Wendy C is just trying to help you. I suggest you take this up with
DIMIA. If the US let you immigrate there and you are over 45 that is up
to them, but you are trying to go to Australia. Don't confuse the 2
countries. I think you should be a little bit more grateful that people
are trying to help you

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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 15:24:14 +0000, xng
<member5292@british_expats.com> wrote:

    >> I'm not getting into any kind of debate on the ethics of DIMA or
    >> anyone else. I was merely trying to assist, you asked the question
    >> "Age 45 and above - no hope ?" and I merely pointed out that there is.
    >> I suppose it depends on how serious you are in emmigration, where
    >> there is a will there is a way.
    >> Of course if your post is intended to stir up trouble then I'm afraid
    >> I can't help you :)
    >My post is not to stir up trouble but just mentioning the facts that age
    >discrimination is not allowed in US.

Most civilised countries have age discrimination laws but they can be
circumnavigated, including those in the US.

    >Anyway, it looks like the chances are very slim.
    >Thanks for your assistance.

Grayling

Well it is as far as DIMA is concerned.

G

xng

I am grateful to wendy C.

I was just posing a question to the general reader here regarding the law and not to her in particular.

Hope that clears any misunderstanding.

rammygirl

I think basically it is an economic thing they want you to be there long enough to pay into the system before you retire and take it out!! If you can prove you have the means to support yourself from assets and pensions in the UK it will help.

Have you been in Business? the state sponsored business sKills visas (there are a few-executive/investor/owner....) have less onerour requirements than the full DIMA ones and the upper age is 55 (can be older too). They are temporary though so check out the requirements to get PR once in.

Rammygirl