Advice. Is it possible? Or, am I wasting my time and money?
Here's the situation. I just received my immigration packet from the
embassy in Washington. Now I'm not sure that it's even possible to make the move. I'm in IT (Network Administrator [ASCO code 223111]). 39 years old. No formal education or certifications, but 22 years of experience within various apects of computing/IT. As a native English speaker and assuming 60 points from ACS, I would just make the 115 mark. I have been out of work since April of 2001. There have been a couple of short, but mostly unrelated contract jobs I've worked since but for all practical purposes, I may as well have not been working. I'm now discovering that ACS will require that I have worked 12 of the past 18 months in my profession so it looks like I shouldn't even bother wasting my time and money on the ACS assessment as I would need to apply under RPL anyway. Since Victoria was my planned destination anyway, I checked out their Skilled Occupations List figuring maybe there would be a way in there. They too are requiring an ACS assessment though. The big question is: Should I bother with ACS, or wait until I find a job and have my 12 months in place? I'll be 40 next August so Skilled Migration will probably be my only option at that point. I'd also like to know if getting a CCNA certification from Cisco will greatly improve my chances with ACS, or should job experience alone be enough? I really need to find out as much as possible, as quick as possible since time is short and I really need to decide if it's time to choose a different destination. |
Re: Advice. Is it possible? Or, am I wasting my time and money?
A few points:
- You need need an ACS assessment (or one from another assessing body) for any kind of Australian skilled migration application. - You don't need recent work experience for an ACS assessment (12 months in the last 18) but you do need it to meet the Department of Immigration's basic requirements, without which your application would be refused. You need more experience to get points for work experience. - ACS assessments are valid for 1 year (it only needs to be valid the date you lodge your application to the Dept of Immigration however). - If you have 22 years experience in IT, that should be enough to get an RPL assessment. Jeremy >On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 05:49:33 -0400, Dana Nutter wrote: >Here's the situation. I just received my immigration packet from the >embassy in Washington. Now I'm not sure that it's even possible to >make the move. >I'm in IT (Network Administrator [ASCO code 223111]). 39 years old. >No formal education or certifications, but 22 years of experience >within various apects of computing/IT. >As a native English speaker and assuming 60 points from ACS, I would >just make the 115 mark. >I have been out of work since April of 2001. There have been a couple >of short, but mostly unrelated contract jobs I've worked since but for >all practical purposes, I may as well have not been working. I'm now >discovering that ACS will require that I have worked 12 of the past 18 >months in my profession so it looks like I shouldn't even bother >wasting my time and money on the ACS assessment as I would need to >apply under RPL anyway. >Since Victoria was my planned destination anyway, I checked out their >Skilled Occupations List figuring maybe there would be a way in there. >They too are requiring an ACS assessment though. >The big question is: > Should I bother with ACS, or wait until I find a job and have > my 12 months in place? > I'll be 40 next August so Skilled Migration will probably be > my only option at that point. > I'd also like to know if getting a CCNA certification from > Cisco will greatly improve my chances with ACS, or should job > experience alone be enough? >I really need to find out as much as possible, as quick as possible >since time is short and I really need to decide if it's time to choose >a different destination. |
Re: Advice. Is it possible? Or, am I wasting my time and money?
I am 40 and recently launched an attempt at a STNI migration for the
State of Victoria. Currently their list of skills in demand is very tight, but I do happen to fall under it since I specialize in Peoplesoft They informed me that I was eligible to be nominated, but I still need to get an ACS assessment to satisfy the DIMIA requirements. If the US made it this tough for immigrants to get jobs here, we would definitely not have the current glut that we have in IT. [email protected] (JAJ) wrote in message news:... > A few points: > - You need need an ACS assessment (or one from another assessing body) > for any kind of Australian skilled migration application. > - You don't need recent work experience for an ACS assessment (12 > months in the last 18) but you do need it to meet the Department of > Immigration's basic requirements, without which your application would > be refused. You need more experience to get points for work > experience. > - ACS assessments are valid for 1 year (it only needs to be valid the > date you lodge your application to the Dept of Immigration however). > - If you have 22 years experience in IT, that should be enough to get > an RPL assessment. > Jeremy > >On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 05:49:33 -0400, Dana Nutter wrote: > > > > > >Here's the situation. I just received my immigration packet from the > >embassy in Washington. Now I'm not sure that it's even possible to > >make the move. > > > >I'm in IT (Network Administrator [ASCO code 223111]). 39 years old. > >No formal education or certifications, but 22 years of experience > >within various apects of computing/IT. > > > >As a native English speaker and assuming 60 points from ACS, I would > >just make the 115 mark. > > > >I have been out of work since April of 2001. There have been a couple > >of short, but mostly unrelated contract jobs I've worked since but for > >all practical purposes, I may as well have not been working. I'm now > >discovering that ACS will require that I have worked 12 of the past 18 > >months in my profession so it looks like I shouldn't even bother > >wasting my time and money on the ACS assessment as I would need to > >apply under RPL anyway. > > > >Since Victoria was my planned destination anyway, I checked out their > >Skilled Occupations List figuring maybe there would be a way in there. > >They too are requiring an ACS assessment though. > > > >The big question is: > > > > Should I bother with ACS, or wait until I find a job and have > > my 12 months in place? > > > > I'll be 40 next August so Skilled Migration will probably be > > my only option at that point. > > > > I'd also like to know if getting a CCNA certification from > > Cisco will greatly improve my chances with ACS, or should job > > experience alone be enough? > > > >I really need to find out as much as possible, as quick as possible > >since time is short and I really need to decide if it's time to choose > >a different destination. > > > > > > |
Re: Advice. Is it possible? Or, am I wasting my time and money?
With respect, an Australian seeking a green card in the US (without
having an American relative) would find it a lot more difficult than it's going to be for you to get assessed by ACS, if you have a professional background in IT. Jeremy >On 2 Oct 2002 13:01:22 -0700, [email protected] (SDW) wrote: >I am 40 and recently launched an attempt at a STNI migration for the >State of Victoria. Currently their list of skills in demand is very >tight, but I do happen to fall under it since I specialize in >Peoplesoft They informed me that I was eligible to be nominated, but I >still need to get an ACS assessment to satisfy the DIMIA requirements. >If the US made it this tough for immigrants to get jobs here, we would >definitely not have the current glut that we have in >IT. |
Re: Advice. Is it possible? Or, am I wasting my time and money?
Well, I contacted an agent I found on the MARA website.
There is no way to get any type of skilled migration visa without an ACS asessment. Being unemployed this long has destroyed any chance I may have of moving to Oz. Had I done this a year ago, things would have been fine. It's time to choose a different destination. Any good ideas? On 2 Oct 2002 13:01:22 -0700, [email protected] (SDW) wrote: >I am 40 and recently launched an attempt at a STNI migration for the >State of Victoria. Currently their list of skills in demand is very >tight, but I do happen to fall under it since I specialize in >Peoplesoft They informed me that I was eligible to be nominated, but I >still need to get an ACS assessment to satisfy the DIMIA requirements. >If the US made it this tough for immigrants to get jobs here, we would >definitely not have the current glut that we have in >IT. >[email protected] (JAJ) wrote in message news:... >> A few points: >> - You need need an ACS assessment (or one from another assessing body) >> for any kind of Australian skilled migration application. >> - You don't need recent work experience for an ACS assessment (12 >> months in the last 18) but you do need it to meet the Department of >> Immigration's basic requirements, without which your application would >> be refused. You need more experience to get points for work >> experience. >> - ACS assessments are valid for 1 year (it only needs to be valid the >> date you lodge your application to the Dept of Immigration however). >> - If you have 22 years experience in IT, that should be enough to get >> an RPL assessment. >> Jeremy >> >On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 05:49:33 -0400, Dana Nutter wrote: >> > >> > >> >Here's the situation. I just received my immigration packet from the >> >embassy in Washington. Now I'm not sure that it's even possible to >> >make the move. >> > >> >I'm in IT (Network Administrator [ASCO code 223111]). 39 years old. >> >No formal education or certifications, but 22 years of experience >> >within various apects of computing/IT. >> > >> >As a native English speaker and assuming 60 points from ACS, I would >> >just make the 115 mark. >> > >> >I have been out of work since April of 2001. There have been a couple >> >of short, but mostly unrelated contract jobs I've worked since but for >> >all practical purposes, I may as well have not been working. I'm now >> >discovering that ACS will require that I have worked 12 of the past 18 >> >months in my profession so it looks like I shouldn't even bother >> >wasting my time and money on the ACS assessment as I would need to >> >apply under RPL anyway. >> > >> >Since Victoria was my planned destination anyway, I checked out their >> >Skilled Occupations List figuring maybe there would be a way in there. >> >They too are requiring an ACS assessment though. >> > >> >The big question is: >> > >> > Should I bother with ACS, or wait until I find a job and have >> > my 12 months in place? >> > >> > I'll be 40 next August so Skilled Migration will probably be >> > my only option at that point. >> > >> > I'd also like to know if getting a CCNA certification from >> > Cisco will greatly improve my chances with ACS, or should job >> > experience alone be enough? >> > >> >I really need to find out as much as possible, as quick as possible >> >since time is short and I really need to decide if it's time to choose >> >a different destination. >> > >> > >> > |
Re: Advice. Is it possible? Or, am I wasting my time and money?
> >On 2 Oct 2002 13:01:22 -0700, [email protected] (SDW) wrote:
> >I am 40 and recently launched an attempt at a STNI migration for the > >State of Victoria. Currently their list of skills in demand is very > >tight, but I do happen to fall under it since I specialize in > >Peoplesoft They informed me that I was eligible to be nominated, but I > >still need to get an ACS assessment to satisfy the DIMIA requirements. > >If the US made it this tough for immigrants to get jobs here, we would > >definitely not have the current glut that we have in > >IT. I looked in to the US visa situation and have friends who've done it. Trust me, Aus is a piece of cake in comparision and the US is one of the hardest I've looked into. I know of no real way to get a US visa except to work for a company who has UK and US offices and get a transfer and even then it's a case of temporary visas, not PR as in Aus. Once you're there (our friends did it this way) it is no walk in the park. The wife of the couple couldn't work for 3 years and ended up doing charity work. They've just got the point where they can apply for citizenship and they've been there around 7 years. Even the one in a million Visa lottery doesn't include the British (maybe we should stop supporting the USA's every move to make a point - so much for the UK/US special relationship) Anyway I'll get off my high horse now. Aus is at least fair if a little demanding. Dean |
Re: Advice. Is it possible? Or, am I wasting my time and money?
Being unemployed now may not stop you from getting an ACS assessment.
But you would need to meet the Department of Immigration basic requirements for skilled work experience and also probably get points for work experience too, otherwise the ACS assessment would be of no use. And they're only valid for 12 months. There aren't that many alternatives to Australia. Assuming you're from the US, there are Canada and New Zealand, both of which have tightened up their rules considerably recently. If you've got skills that would prompt an employer to sponsor you for a work permit, there might be possibilities there, or alternatively in the UK. Otherwise you might have to settle for going interstate in the US if you want a change of scenery. Jeremy >On Tue, 08 Oct 2002 18:59:52 -0400, Dana Nutter wrote: >Well, I contacted an agent I found on the MARA website. >There is no way to get any type of skilled migration visa without an >ACS asessment. Being unemployed this long has destroyed any chance I >may have of moving to Oz. Had I done this a year ago, things would >have been fine. >It's time to choose a different destination. Any good ideas? >On 2 Oct 2002 13:01:22 -0700, [email protected] (SDW) wrote: >>I am 40 and recently launched an attempt at a STNI migration for the >>State of Victoria. Currently their list of skills in demand is very >>tight, but I do happen to fall under it since I specialize in >>Peoplesoft They informed me that I was eligible to be nominated, but I >>still need to get an ACS assessment to satisfy the DIMIA requirements. >>If the US made it this tough for immigrants to get jobs here, we would >>definitely not have the current glut that we have in >>IT. >>[email protected] (JAJ) wrote in message news:... >>> A few points: >>> - You need need an ACS assessment (or one from another assessing body) >>> for any kind of Australian skilled migration application. >>> - You don't need recent work experience for an ACS assessment (12 >>> months in the last 18) but you do need it to meet the Department of >>> Immigration's basic requirements, without which your application would >>> be refused. You need more experience to get points for work >>> experience. >>> - ACS assessments are valid for 1 year (it only needs to be valid the >>> date you lodge your application to the Dept of Immigration however). >>> - If you have 22 years experience in IT, that should be enough to get >>> an RPL assessment. >>> Jeremy >>> >On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 05:49:33 -0400, Dana Nutter wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> >Here's the situation. I just received my immigration packet from the >>> >embassy in Washington. Now I'm not sure that it's even possible to >>> >make the move. >>> > >>> >I'm in IT (Network Administrator [ASCO code 223111]). 39 years old. >>> >No formal education or certifications, but 22 years of experience >>> >within various apects of computing/IT. >>> > >>> >As a native English speaker and assuming 60 points from ACS, I would >>> >just make the 115 mark. >>> > >>> >I have been out of work since April of 2001. There have been a couple >>> >of short, but mostly unrelated contract jobs I've worked since but for >>> >all practical purposes, I may as well have not been working. I'm now >>> >discovering that ACS will require that I have worked 12 of the past 18 >>> >months in my profession so it looks like I shouldn't even bother >>> >wasting my time and money on the ACS assessment as I would need to >>> >apply under RPL anyway. >>> > >>> >Since Victoria was my planned destination anyway, I checked out their >>> >Skilled Occupations List figuring maybe there would be a way in there. >>> >They too are requiring an ACS assessment though. >>> > >>> >The big question is: >>> > >>> > Should I bother with ACS, or wait until I find a job and have >>> > my 12 months in place? >>> > >>> > I'll be 40 next August so Skilled Migration will probably be >>> > my only option at that point. >>> > >>> > I'd also like to know if getting a CCNA certification from >>> > Cisco will greatly improve my chances with ACS, or should job >>> > experience alone be enough? >>> > >>> >I really need to find out as much as possible, as quick as possible >>> >since time is short and I really need to decide if it's time to choose >>> >a different destination. >>> > >>> > >>> > |
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