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pimpmycode Mar 15th 2015 11:47 pm

ACS Skills Assessment - RPL
 
Hi,

I'm considering applying for skills assessment with ACS, however my case is not completely straightforward so i wanted to find out if anyone has had success in a similar situation.

My occupation is on the SOL, I have 9 years of SAP consulting experience, a one year IT learnership and four SAP certifications, however i have no Bachelors or Masters degree. As a result it looks like my best option is to apply for RPL with ACS. Has anyone else gone this route with ACS? I'm wondering if i have a fighting chance.

old.sparkles Mar 16th 2015 5:08 am

Re: ACS Skills Assessment - RPL
 

Originally Posted by pimpmycode (Post 11593065)
Hi,

I'm considering applying for skills assessment with ACS, however my case is not completely straightforward so i wanted to find out if anyone has had success in a similar situation.

My occupation is on the SOL, I have 9 years of SAP consulting experience, a one year IT learnership and four SAP certifications, however i have no Bachelors or Masters degree. As a result it looks like my best option is to apply for RPL with ACS. Has anyone else gone this route with ACS? I'm wondering if i have a fighting chance.

Employment used to deem you skilled cannot be used for points. To be deemed skilled by ACS you need 8 years experience as well as a successful RPL if you have no qualifications, which will leave you no experience to claim points on. If you were successful, would you still be able to meet the points requirement for a visa?

pimpmycode Mar 16th 2015 1:40 pm

Re: ACS Skills Assessment - RPL
 
old.sparkles Thanks for the response and information about the 'deemed skilled' rules.

If my skills assessment was successful i would have to aim for a superior english rating on IELTS in order to boost my points. That and age would give me 45 points meaning 15 points short still. I see you can get 10 points for a qualification, can that be a vendor certification? Even then i'm still 5 points short.

So are my options either to get a qualification or gain additional years experience? If i was to be sponsored and transferred by my company to one of our offices in AUS would the same situation above still apply?

Apologies for all the questions. Any info is appreciated.

old.sparkles Mar 16th 2015 7:22 pm

Re: ACS Skills Assessment - RPL
 

Originally Posted by pimpmycode (Post 11593549)
old.sparkles Thanks for the response and information about the 'deemed skilled' rules.

If my skills assessment was successful i would have to aim for a superior english rating on IELTS in order to boost my points. That and age would give me 45 points meaning 15 points short still. I see you can get 10 points for a qualification, can that be a vendor certification? Even then i'm still 5 points short.

So are my options either to get a qualification or gain additional years experience? If i was to be sponsored and transferred by my company to one of our offices in AUS would the same situation above still apply?

Apologies for all the questions. Any info is appreciated.

If you were sponsored on a 457 , I don't think you need the assessment as such, but they would need to satisfy DIBP that they cannot find someone locally.

457's are temporary 4 year visas, but after 2 years they could sponsor you for 186 temporary resident transition stream where you also wont need the skills assessment I think.

Have a look here - Employer Nomination Scheme (subclass 186)

powderbabe Mar 18th 2015 2:11 pm

Re: ACS Skills Assessment - RPL
 

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11593871)
If you were sponsored on a 457 , I don't think you need the assessment as such, but they would need to satisfy DIBP that they cannot find someone locally.

457's are temporary 4 year visas, but after 2 years they could sponsor you for 186 temporary resident transition stream where you also wont need the skills assessment I think.

Have a look here - Employer Nomination Scheme (subclass 186)

I'm so sorry to hijack this post - I've been trawling around loads of websites for days to try to get information like the above and even just emailed an immigration lawyer to see if they could help.

I know that I haven't been in my job for long enough (only 2 years) to pass the assessment by ACS for one of the permanent visas yet so was wondering if finding an employer to sponsor me on the 457 would be possible. Do I understand the above correctly? I do realise that it would be a long process even trying to find an sponsor, but if this is possible then I can at least start looking...
Again, apologies for the hijack :-p and do let me know if I have completely misunderstood again!!

old.sparkles Mar 18th 2015 7:27 pm

Re: ACS Skills Assessment - RPL
 

Originally Posted by powderbabe (Post 11595535)
I'm so sorry to hijack this post - I've been trawling around loads of websites for days to try to get information like the above and even just emailed an immigration lawyer to see if they could help.

I know that I haven't been in my job for long enough (only 2 years) to pass the assessment by ACS for one of the permanent visas yet so was wondering if finding an employer to sponsor me on the 457 would be possible. Do I understand the above correctly? I do realise that it would be a long process even trying to find an sponsor, but if this is possible then I can at least start looking...
Again, apologies for the hijack :-p and do let me know if I have completely misunderstood again!!

If you have a degree relevant to your occupation, 2 years experience may be all that is needed to pass the assessment. But 457's often don't need an assessment as they are temporary visas, A direct entry 186 would still need one though.

Pittaway Mar 20th 2015 12:02 pm

Re: ACS Skills Assessment - RPL
 
Hi,

I'm considering the same should my wifes' assessment of qualifications are deemed insufficient.

From what i have read, if you have no degree (similar to me) you will have to have 10 years of skilled work history including 8 in the relevant ANZSCO field, and complete 2 RPLS.

I am also a systems consultant and have had a good look through the RPL requirements. This should be bread and butter for you over a weekend as your project experience and background will cover off the requirements.

Is there a reason you don't want to complete an RPL (i know its a long winded process)? I believe if you cover all of the questions in the RPL document then there will be no reason for ACS to reject your application.

Cheers

pimpmycode Mar 20th 2015 12:42 pm

Re: ACS Skills Assessment - RPL
 

Originally Posted by Pittaway (Post 11597557)
Hi,

I'm considering the same should my wifes' assessment of qualifications are deemed insufficient.

From what i have read, if you have no degree (similar to me) you will have to have 10 years of skilled work history including 8 in the relevant ANZSCO field, and complete 2 RPLS.

I am also a systems consultant and have had a good look through the RPL requirements. This should be bread and butter for you over a weekend as your project experience and background will cover off the requirements.

Is there a reason you don't want to complete an RPL (i know its a long winded process)? I believe if you cover all of the questions in the RPL document then there will be no reason for ACS to reject your application.

Cheers

Hi Pittaway,

Im ok with going the RPL route, i am quite confident with putting the necessary information together. The problem i see as old.sparkles pointed out is that as i am in my 9th year of experience i may get through the assessment but would not have enough points for the visa. To be honest i'm not really sure how to proceed.

How many years of experience do you have?

Pittaway Mar 20th 2015 1:48 pm

Re: ACS Skills Assessment - RPL
 
Hi,

i did notice you only have 9 years. How long until you hit year 10? I'll tell you the reason; i take it you are applying under the ANZSCO of systems analyst, applications for these codes are now closed until July 1st 2015, the ceiling has been reached, i'm unsure how the selection from EOI to application is prioritised, whether this is based on highest points etc, but it if you can reach those 10 years in skilled employment (8 in the ANZSCO) by july/august and between now and then get your 20 points from the IELTS then you'll be in good stead for when applications are opened again.

I'm lucky in that i made 10 years in Feb just gone, and have got copies of all the references throughout my work history in line with the ACS's requirements.

Cheers

old.sparkles Mar 20th 2015 9:28 pm

Re: ACS Skills Assessment - RPL
 

Originally Posted by Pittaway (Post 11597687)
Hi,

i did notice you only have 9 years. How long until you hit year 10? I'll tell you the reason; i take it you are applying under the ANZSCO of systems analyst, applications for these codes are now closed until July 1st 2015, the ceiling has been reached, i'm unsure how the selection from EOI to application is prioritised, whether this is based on highest points etc, but it if you can reach those 10 years in skilled employment (8 in the ANZSCO) by july/august and between now and then get your 20 points from the IELTS then you'll be in good stead for when applications are opened again.

I'm lucky in that i made 10 years in Feb just gone, and have got copies of all the references throughout my work history in line with the ACS's requirements.

Cheers

This is not the case for everyone. As mentioned above, the OP has no formal qualifications so needs a successful RPL plus 8 years experience to be deemed skilled. If they had a non-ICT diploma or higher this would be reduced to 6, but that would still only leave 3 years to claim points on.

To only need 2 years experience to be deemed skilled by ACS you need a Bachelor degree or higher, with ICT major that is closely related to your nominated occupation. If you are unclear of how many years you need, you can check ACS summary criteria - https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets...teria-2014.pdf

powderbabe Apr 4th 2015 3:26 pm

Re: ACS Skills Assessment - RPL
 

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11595899)
If you have a degree relevant to your occupation, 2 years experience may be all that is needed to pass the assessment. But 457's often don't need an assessment as they are temporary visas, A direct entry 186 would still need one though.

Thanks old.sparkles - I didn't see your response earlier. Appreciate you coming back to me on that!

MarkHoath Apr 8th 2015 8:12 am

Re: ACS Skills Assessment - RPL
 
457 visa first. SAP consultants will have no issue finding a job or self sponsoring under 457. then ENS for PR.

Save yourself the cost and hassle of an RPL with ACS

Pittaway Apr 8th 2015 8:35 am

Re: ACS Skills Assessment - RPL
 
Thanks for the guidance! I was also thinking about whether this may be a viable alternative.

Cheers!

mkashifyousuf Apr 24th 2015 5:12 am

Re: ACS Skills Assessment - RPL
 

Originally Posted by MarkHoath (Post 11613319)
457 visa first. SAP consultants will have no issue finding a job or self sponsoring under 457. then ENS for PR.

Save yourself the cost and hassle of an RPL with ACS

Dear
Would you please clarify above..
I m also from IT feild and facing same.
What do you mean by 457 visa first. To apply one need to be sponsor from employer.. But u mention self sponsor ..I can't figure it out.

Pollyana Apr 24th 2015 9:44 pm

Re: ACS Skills Assessment - RPL
 

Originally Posted by mkashifyousuf (Post 11627179)
Dear
Would you please clarify above..
I m also from IT feild and facing same.
What do you mean by 457 visa first. To apply one need to be sponsor from employer.. But u mention self sponsor ..I can't figure it out.

I have heard of self-sponsoring for a 457 but I don't think its very common, as I believe you have to set up a company and meet training requirements etc.
Maybe MarkHoath could expand on it a little?


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