ACS Certified Documents - Not Individually Signed!
Apr 26th 2007, 1:34 pm
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ACS Certified Documents - Not Individually Signed!
Hello,
I finally got all my Docs together for ACS and made an appointment with a Notary to get two copies signed for £75. Based on what I'd researched, I thought this was not excessive.
When we started the meeting, the Notary explained to me that it was not common practice to individually certify documents, rather it was common to certify them as a bundle. He made copies of all our docs for himslef (approx 20). He then wrote and stamped a declaration, which was attached to the 'bundle'. He didn't signed or stamp each individual document.
I'm concerned that this isn't going to be sufficient with ACS. Has any one had this kind of certification accepted by ACS, or is it likely that this will be rejected because each doc hasn't been signed/stamped?
Thanks.
I finally got all my Docs together for ACS and made an appointment with a Notary to get two copies signed for £75. Based on what I'd researched, I thought this was not excessive.
When we started the meeting, the Notary explained to me that it was not common practice to individually certify documents, rather it was common to certify them as a bundle. He made copies of all our docs for himslef (approx 20). He then wrote and stamped a declaration, which was attached to the 'bundle'. He didn't signed or stamp each individual document.
I'm concerned that this isn't going to be sufficient with ACS. Has any one had this kind of certification accepted by ACS, or is it likely that this will be rejected because each doc hasn't been signed/stamped?
Thanks.
Apr 26th 2007, 1:39 pm
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Re: ACS Certified Documents - Not Individually Signed!
Hello,
I finally got all my Docs together for ACS and made an appointment with a Notary to get two copies signed for £75. Based on what I'd researched, I thought this was not excessive.
When we started the meeting, the Notary explained to me that it was not common practice to individually certify documents, rather it was common to certify them as a bundle. He made copies of all our docs for himslef (approx 20). He then wrote and stamped a declaration, which was attached to the 'bundle'. He didn't signed or stamp each individual document.
I'm concerned that this isn't going to be sufficient with ACS. Has any one had this kind of certification accepted by ACS, or is it likely that this will be rejected because each doc hasn't been signed/stamped?
Thanks.
I finally got all my Docs together for ACS and made an appointment with a Notary to get two copies signed for £75. Based on what I'd researched, I thought this was not excessive.
When we started the meeting, the Notary explained to me that it was not common practice to individually certify documents, rather it was common to certify them as a bundle. He made copies of all our docs for himslef (approx 20). He then wrote and stamped a declaration, which was attached to the 'bundle'. He didn't signed or stamp each individual document.
I'm concerned that this isn't going to be sufficient with ACS. Has any one had this kind of certification accepted by ACS, or is it likely that this will be rejected because each doc hasn't been signed/stamped?
Thanks.
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Apr 26th 2007, 1:50 pm
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Re: ACS Certified Documents - Not Individually Signed!
Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
I'm afraid the answer to both questions in No. The documents where not identified on the facing sheet, the documents are enclosed in a binder, but this is not sealed/secure.
I had hoped that if ACS wanted to establish the integrity of the Docs they could contact the Notary/Solicitor direct. But I guess that would take more time than they have.
I'm beginning the think I've waisted £75 and more than a little time
Regards.
Thanks for the reply.
I'm afraid the answer to both questions in No. The documents where not identified on the facing sheet, the documents are enclosed in a binder, but this is not sealed/secure.
I had hoped that if ACS wanted to establish the integrity of the Docs they could contact the Notary/Solicitor direct. But I guess that would take more time than they have.
I'm beginning the think I've waisted £75 and more than a little time
Regards.
Apr 26th 2007, 2:27 pm
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Re: ACS Certified Documents - Not Individually Signed!
Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
I'm afraid the answer to both questions in No. The documents where not identified on the facing sheet, the documents are enclosed in a binder, but this is not sealed/secure.
I had hoped that if ACS wanted to establish the integrity of the Docs they could contact the Notary/Solicitor direct. But I guess that would take more time than they have.
I'm beginning the think I've waisted £75 and more than a little time
Regards.
Thanks for the reply.
I'm afraid the answer to both questions in No. The documents where not identified on the facing sheet, the documents are enclosed in a binder, but this is not sealed/secure.
I had hoped that if ACS wanted to establish the integrity of the Docs they could contact the Notary/Solicitor direct. But I guess that would take more time than they have.
I'm beginning the think I've waisted £75 and more than a little time
Regards.
Regards
Tony Coates
MARN 0635896
Apr 26th 2007, 2:35 pm
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Re: ACS Certified Documents - Not Individually Signed!
Hello,
I finally got all my Docs together for ACS and made an appointment with a Notary to get two copies signed for £75. Based on what I'd researched, I thought this was not excessive.
When we started the meeting, the Notary explained to me that it was not common practice to individually certify documents, rather it was common to certify them as a bundle. He made copies of all our docs for himslef (approx 20). He then wrote and stamped a declaration, which was attached to the 'bundle'. He didn't signed or stamp each individual document.
I'm concerned that this isn't going to be sufficient with ACS. Has any one had this kind of certification accepted by ACS, or is it likely that this will be rejected because each doc hasn't been signed/stamped? Thanks.
I finally got all my Docs together for ACS and made an appointment with a Notary to get two copies signed for £75. Based on what I'd researched, I thought this was not excessive.
When we started the meeting, the Notary explained to me that it was not common practice to individually certify documents, rather it was common to certify them as a bundle. He made copies of all our docs for himslef (approx 20). He then wrote and stamped a declaration, which was attached to the 'bundle'. He didn't signed or stamp each individual document.
I'm concerned that this isn't going to be sufficient with ACS. Has any one had this kind of certification accepted by ACS, or is it likely that this will be rejected because each doc hasn't been signed/stamped? Thanks.
Info on certified docs is about three quarters down the page...
http://www.acs.org.au/index.cfm?acti...illapplication
We recently did an RPL and every single piece of paper (all 100+) had to be individually certified.
D D
Apr 26th 2007, 3:52 pm
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Re: ACS Certified Documents - Not Individually Signed!
Sounds really strange. When OH had to have documents certified for his ACS approval they were done individually - stamped and signed. I think I would definitely contact the ACS and see if they will accept this before you send them, otherwise it might delay things. If it isn't acceptable and the notary agreed to certify two copies of each document for a total £75 then you should certainly go back and insist on him re-doing the documents at no extra cost.
Apr 26th 2007, 6:19 pm
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Re: ACS Certified Documents - Not Individually Signed!
Hello,
I finally got all my Docs together for ACS and made an appointment with a Notary to get two copies signed for £75. Based on what I'd researched, I thought this was not excessive.
When we started the meeting, the Notary explained to me that it was not common practice to individually certify documents, rather it was common to certify them as a bundle. He made copies of all our docs for himslef (approx 20). He then wrote and stamped a declaration, which was attached to the 'bundle'. He didn't signed or stamp each individual document.
I'm concerned that this isn't going to be sufficient with ACS. Has any one had this kind of certification accepted by ACS, or is it likely that this will be rejected because each doc hasn't been signed/stamped?
Thanks.
I finally got all my Docs together for ACS and made an appointment with a Notary to get two copies signed for £75. Based on what I'd researched, I thought this was not excessive.
When we started the meeting, the Notary explained to me that it was not common practice to individually certify documents, rather it was common to certify them as a bundle. He made copies of all our docs for himslef (approx 20). He then wrote and stamped a declaration, which was attached to the 'bundle'. He didn't signed or stamp each individual document.
I'm concerned that this isn't going to be sufficient with ACS. Has any one had this kind of certification accepted by ACS, or is it likely that this will be rejected because each doc hasn't been signed/stamped?
Thanks.
Apr 26th 2007, 8:21 pm
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Re: ACS Certified Documents - Not Individually Signed!
Hello,
I finally got all my Docs together for ACS and made an appointment with a Notary to get two copies signed for £75. Based on what I'd researched, I thought this was not excessive.
When we started the meeting, the Notary explained to me that it was not common practice to individually certify documents, rather it was common to certify them as a bundle. He made copies of all our docs for himslef (approx 20). He then wrote and stamped a declaration, which was attached to the 'bundle'. He didn't signed or stamp each individual document.
I'm concerned that this isn't going to be sufficient with ACS. Has any one had this kind of certification accepted by ACS, or is it likely that this will be rejected because each doc hasn't been signed/stamped?
Thanks.
I finally got all my Docs together for ACS and made an appointment with a Notary to get two copies signed for £75. Based on what I'd researched, I thought this was not excessive.
When we started the meeting, the Notary explained to me that it was not common practice to individually certify documents, rather it was common to certify them as a bundle. He made copies of all our docs for himslef (approx 20). He then wrote and stamped a declaration, which was attached to the 'bundle'. He didn't signed or stamp each individual document.
I'm concerned that this isn't going to be sufficient with ACS. Has any one had this kind of certification accepted by ACS, or is it likely that this will be rejected because each doc hasn't been signed/stamped?
Thanks.
Apr 26th 2007, 9:28 pm
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Re: ACS Certified Documents - Not Individually Signed!
Once ACS receive your application it will sit for several weeks until it is actioned, in the meantime, early on, they will give you a reference number. Send an e-mail to [email protected] and quote the reference explaining what is has happened - see what they say- you can easily send the new bundle off to them quoting the reference and then it will all be okay. Don't worry, you can get it sorted at no further cost. I got about 75 docs done with a set of copies for £50, and now he has done the odd certification for free!
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Apr 26th 2007, 9:38 pm
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Re: ACS Certified Documents - Not Individually Signed!
I went down the route of finding a notary, but they seem a law unto themselves. Based on others successful experience I had a regular solicitor certify my documents. Each was individually stamped and signed and for a total cost of £19 (8 unique pages).
Apr 27th 2007, 12:54 pm
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Re: ACS Certified Documents - Not Individually Signed!
Thanks for all your comments. Having already posted the docs I can't do anything else at this stage but wait for a response from ACS. I'll certainly take all your comments on board and post an update.
One further comment, the reason I used a notary, was that I encountered some resistance from solicitors who wouldn't certify my docs because they had no previous knowledge of me. Anyone else had experience of this?
One further comment, the reason I used a notary, was that I encountered some resistance from solicitors who wouldn't certify my docs because they had no previous knowledge of me. Anyone else had experience of this?
Apr 27th 2007, 7:54 pm
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Re: ACS Certified Documents - Not Individually Signed!
Thanks for all your comments. Having already posted the docs I can't do anything else at this stage but wait for a response from ACS. I'll certainly take all your comments on board and post an update.
One further comment, the reason I used a notary, was that I encountered some resistance from solicitors who wouldn't certify my docs because they had no previous knowledge of me. Anyone else had experience of this?
One further comment, the reason I used a notary, was that I encountered some resistance from solicitors who wouldn't certify my docs because they had no previous knowledge of me. Anyone else had experience of this?
Jun 6th 2007, 11:03 am
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Re: ACS Certified Documents - Not Individually Signed!
Hello again,
I though I would post an update on my ACS assessment so that others may learn from my experience.
As previously mentioned I sent my ACS application with documents that were not individually certified.
As expected the response from ACS was helpfull, but not favourable, see below:
* I refer to your application for Skills Assessment and wish to advise that before the processing of your application can be finalised, further documentation is required:
Please resubmit all documents in correctly certified copy. It is important that each documents is individually certified or correctly bound and collectivley certified.
* Please also provide a revised employer reference. It is important that the reference is dated to indicate the full term of your employment. Alternately you may provide a HR style reference which indicates the date of your employment i.e mm/yy - mm/yy.
Please do not send originals, as liability cannot be accepted for original documents.
It took about 4 weeks to get this response.
I though I would post an update on my ACS assessment so that others may learn from my experience.
As previously mentioned I sent my ACS application with documents that were not individually certified.
As expected the response from ACS was helpfull, but not favourable, see below:
* I refer to your application for Skills Assessment and wish to advise that before the processing of your application can be finalised, further documentation is required:
Please resubmit all documents in correctly certified copy. It is important that each documents is individually certified or correctly bound and collectivley certified.
* Please also provide a revised employer reference. It is important that the reference is dated to indicate the full term of your employment. Alternately you may provide a HR style reference which indicates the date of your employment i.e mm/yy - mm/yy.
Please do not send originals, as liability cannot be accepted for original documents.
It took about 4 weeks to get this response.
Last edited by ballr73; Jun 6th 2007 at 11:05 am.
Jun 6th 2007, 11:08 am
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Re: ACS Certified Documents - Not Individually Signed!
Hello again,
I though I would post an update on my ACS assessment so that others may learn from my experience.
As previously mentioned I sent my ACS application with documents that were not individually certified.
As expected the response from ACS was helpfull, but not favourable, see below:
* I refer to your application for Skills Assessment and wish to advise that before the processing of your application can be finalised, further documentation is required:
Please resubmit all documents in correctly certified copy. It is important that each documents is individually certified or correctly bound and collectivley certified.
* Please also provide a revised employer reference. It is important that the reference is dated to indicate the full term of your employment. Alternately you may provide a HR style reference which indicates the date of your employment i.e mm/yy - mm/yy.
Please do not send originals, as liability cannot be accepted for original documents.
It took about 4 weeks to get this response.
I though I would post an update on my ACS assessment so that others may learn from my experience.
As previously mentioned I sent my ACS application with documents that were not individually certified.
As expected the response from ACS was helpfull, but not favourable, see below:
* I refer to your application for Skills Assessment and wish to advise that before the processing of your application can be finalised, further documentation is required:
Please resubmit all documents in correctly certified copy. It is important that each documents is individually certified or correctly bound and collectivley certified.
* Please also provide a revised employer reference. It is important that the reference is dated to indicate the full term of your employment. Alternately you may provide a HR style reference which indicates the date of your employment i.e mm/yy - mm/yy.
Please do not send originals, as liability cannot be accepted for original documents.
It took about 4 weeks to get this response.
Actually yes the notary should have bound them securely to do that - I hope you got a better job the second time for free or your money back - and to agree with others in this thread, notaries are rarely worth the trouble.
On the delay side, it's currently up to 12 weeks with ACS so in fact you were lucky to get some sort of a response after four.
Cheers,
George Lombard
