Accountants: no @7 in ielts, no visa; what about other professions..
Apr 22nd 2010, 2:00 pm
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Re: Accountants: no @7 in ielts, no visa; what about other professions..
And it is not only accountants who need to show a 7.0 in IELTS. I myself already needed it for my skills assessment. I would not get a positive skills assessment without a 7.0 in IELTS - and without skills assessment no visa!!!
Apr 22nd 2010, 2:13 pm
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Re: Accountants: no @7 in ielts, no visa; what about other professions..
Hi,
you could also have written the following: Dear future applicants for state sponsorship please do not apply for the visa if you do not can bring at least 25.000 A$ with you. No matter how serious the shortage for your occupation, no matter how proficient you are in the English language - the most important thing is that you have money to bring into the country ( for example to buy a big car or cutlery made from silver or expensive golf equipment, just the most important things you need to survive the first time in Australia).
cheers
you could also have written the following: Dear future applicants for state sponsorship please do not apply for the visa if you do not can bring at least 25.000 A$ with you. No matter how serious the shortage for your occupation, no matter how proficient you are in the English language - the most important thing is that you have money to bring into the country ( for example to buy a big car or cutlery made from silver or expensive golf equipment, just the most important things you need to survive the first time in Australia).
cheers
Some water mines off the coast of chrismas island for the asylum seekers as a welcoming gift.
And probably a rifle as well. To shoot down some kangaroos.
Apr 22nd 2010, 6:06 pm
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Re: Accountants: no @7 in ielts, no visa; what about other professions..
Yea if it was a 9, he can go buy his own island and live on it.
Why don't u get Bill Gates or Warren Buffet to migrate to Australia as well?
I'm sure they can score a band 9 anyway.
He's probably delirious for not watching his alucard anime
Why don't u get Bill Gates or Warren Buffet to migrate to Australia as well?
I'm sure they can score a band 9 anyway.
He's probably delirious for not watching his alucard anime
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Apr 22nd 2010, 7:48 pm
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Re: Accountants: no @7 in ielts, no visa; what about other professions..
I haven't won or lost anything. I am English, have 9 on IELTS and have 18 years experience as an accountant. You have utterly missed my point. 
My point is that rather than trying to make it harder for accountants by trying to argue that accountants need a better standard of English than people in other occupations, which is nonsense ... it would make much more sense to say an accountant should be an accountant, i.e. be a member of an accountancy body and thus by definition have at least 3 years experience.
My point is that rather than trying to make it harder for accountants by trying to argue that accountants need a better standard of English than people in other occupations, which is nonsense ... it would make much more sense to say an accountant should be an accountant, i.e. be a member of an accountancy body and thus by definition have at least 3 years experience.
Apr 23rd 2010, 12:45 am
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Re: Accountants: no @7 in ielts, no visa; what about other professions..
@ BermudaShorts
Hi Bermuda I went through all your posts in this thread, and I totally understand and agree with what you are saying all along. I am glad that there is somebody who understands this situation just as I do....and glad that common sense hasn't totally died. As far as the people who dont agree with you, I can understand your frustration, I have been there too. Some people just dont get it !
Refreshing to see people like you on this forum ! - Keep up the good work !
Hi Bermuda I went through all your posts in this thread, and I totally understand and agree with what you are saying all along. I am glad that there is somebody who understands this situation just as I do....and glad that common sense hasn't totally died. As far as the people who dont agree with you, I can understand your frustration, I have been there too. Some people just dont get it !
Refreshing to see people like you on this forum ! - Keep up the good work !
Apr 23rd 2010, 12:48 am
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Re: Accountants: no @7 in ielts, no visa; what about other professions..
Dear Accountants:
If you have less than 7 in ielts please do not apply for PR. If you do, you have to wait for a very long time. And no state sponsorship will be given.
Even the assessment bodies (ICAA, CPA and NIA) are agreed that accountants should have 7 in each band in ielts.
JAB - letter to Minister Evans on Skills Migration 03/03/2010
“As per our letter to you on 8 February 2010, we have now agreed that in addition to meeting the academic requirements, all applicants must demonstrate that they have achieved an IELTS of 7.0. All agreed changes will be effective from 1 July 2010.”
(For more see: http--www.nia.com.au-publications-pdf-A00019821.pdf)
Moreover, if someone having MPA from Australia without @7 in ielts (the so called study route to PR) will have to wait for ages. Even in future after July 2010, without @7 in ielts, application for PR may not be accepted by DIAC.
Why is this imposing on Accountants only? What about other professions?
The only reason given by DIAC repeatedly for higher score in ielts that those accountants have to communicate effectively.
I think accountants are superfluous there.
If not then why DIAC is accepting @6 for others professions like, engineers, doctors etc. Do they not require communicating to other persons?
If you have less than 7 in ielts please do not apply for PR. If you do, you have to wait for a very long time. And no state sponsorship will be given.
Even the assessment bodies (ICAA, CPA and NIA) are agreed that accountants should have 7 in each band in ielts.
JAB - letter to Minister Evans on Skills Migration 03/03/2010
“As per our letter to you on 8 February 2010, we have now agreed that in addition to meeting the academic requirements, all applicants must demonstrate that they have achieved an IELTS of 7.0. All agreed changes will be effective from 1 July 2010.”
(For more see: http--www.nia.com.au-publications-pdf-A00019821.pdf)
Moreover, if someone having MPA from Australia without @7 in ielts (the so called study route to PR) will have to wait for ages. Even in future after July 2010, without @7 in ielts, application for PR may not be accepted by DIAC.
Why is this imposing on Accountants only? What about other professions?
The only reason given by DIAC repeatedly for higher score in ielts that those accountants have to communicate effectively.
I think accountants are superfluous there.
If not then why DIAC is accepting @6 for others professions like, engineers, doctors etc. Do they not require communicating to other persons?
Apr 23rd 2010, 1:09 am
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Re: Accountants: no @7 in ielts, no visa; what about other professions..
Hi,
you could also have written the following: Dear future applicants for state sponsorship please do not apply for the visa if you do not can bring at least 25.000 A$ with you. No matter how serious the shortage for your occupation, no matter how proficient you are in the English language - the most important thing is that you have money to bring into the country ( for example to buy a big car or cutlery made from silver or expensive golf equipment, just the most important things you need to survive the first time in Australia).
cheers
you could also have written the following: Dear future applicants for state sponsorship please do not apply for the visa if you do not can bring at least 25.000 A$ with you. No matter how serious the shortage for your occupation, no matter how proficient you are in the English language - the most important thing is that you have money to bring into the country ( for example to buy a big car or cutlery made from silver or expensive golf equipment, just the most important things you need to survive the first time in Australia).
cheers
The cost of living in Australia is high, so most migrants need some start up funds behind them. If you do not bring sufficient funds with you how do you intend to come up with the deposit for your rental property? Buy furniture for said property? Enrol your children in school? Buy a cheap car to get to work? Feed yourself until you find a job? There are many stories of very qualified people coming to Australia who have not found it easy at all to find work and have had to survive on their savings. With no social services available for the first 2 years how do you plan to support yourself if you don't have money behind you?
Apr 23rd 2010, 1:28 am
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Re: Accountants: no @7 in ielts, no visa; what about other professions..
Just spoke to the Institute of Chartered Accountants and they are not aware of anything about IELTS 7 (or any IELTS) being part of Assesment of Accountants for migration purposes. So I request the OP to substantiate his claims in the original post, please provide with exact URL and not just a publication number, as I could not access the publication you referred to on NIA database.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Apr 23rd 2010, 1:41 am
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Re: Accountants: no @7 in ielts, no visa; what about other professions..
Just spoke to the Institute of Chartered Accountants and they are not aware of anything about IELTS 7 (or any IELTS) being part of Assesment of Accountants for migration purposes. So I request the OP to substantiate his claims in the original post, please provide with exact URL and not just a publication number, as I could not access the publication you referred to on NIA database.
Cheers.
Cheers.
http://www.nia.com.au/publications/pdf/A00019821.pdf
Apr 23rd 2010, 2:13 am
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Re: Accountants: no @7 in ielts, no visa; what about other professions..
I just tried the URL and it worked. Please look at this,
http://www.nia.com.au/publications/pdf/A00019821.pdf
http://www.nia.com.au/publications/pdf/A00019821.pdf
Any ideas?
Apr 23rd 2010, 2:14 am
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Re: Accountants: no @7 in ielts, no visa; what about other professions..
Ironic coming someone who knows enough about anime and play video games.
Apr 23rd 2010, 11:08 am
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Re: Accountants: no @7 in ielts, no visa; what about other professions..
Just spoke to ICAA (institute of chartered accountnats) and they insist they do NOT look at IELTS as a part of your assessment. So I guess what they are saying in this document is that Immigration, as part of their process, should also require of applicants to have 7 in IELTS.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?