263111 & confusion on points for experience and qualification
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Re: Currently you do not meet the invited score:(
No. If your score is different to what you claimed (intentionally or unintentionally), you are most likely going be refused - as you have already discovered.
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Re: Currently you do not meet the invited score:(
Hi All,
Thanks to all for your inputs...
I would like to clarify that i had applied ACS for 263111 code.
I have qualification equivalent to AQF Diploma with major in computing which I did in year 2003 prior to starting my employment.
I got Positive skill assessment for 8 years experience from ACS (15 points awarded)
However I did my B.Tech along with my work and completed in the year 2010.So my highest qualification is Bachelor’s degree and i got 15 points for the same.
Case officer had missed the point that i have Diploma to prove my qualification prior to the work and she is reluctant to award points for experience before my B.TECH(i.e 2006-2010).I have explained the same situation to DIAC and waiting for their response.
Hope it is clear now....
Thanks to all for your inputs...
I would like to clarify that i had applied ACS for 263111 code.
I have qualification equivalent to AQF Diploma with major in computing which I did in year 2003 prior to starting my employment.
I got Positive skill assessment for 8 years experience from ACS (15 points awarded)
However I did my B.Tech along with my work and completed in the year 2010.So my highest qualification is Bachelor’s degree and i got 15 points for the same.
Case officer had missed the point that i have Diploma to prove my qualification prior to the work and she is reluctant to award points for experience before my B.TECH(i.e 2006-2010).I have explained the same situation to DIAC and waiting for their response.
Hope it is clear now....
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Re: Currently you do not meet the invited score:(
Hi All,
Thanks to all for your inputs...
I would like to clarify that i had applied ACS for 263111 code.
I have qualification equivalent to AQF Diploma with major in computing which I did in year 2003 prior to starting my employment.
I got Positive skill assessment for 8 years experience from ACS (15 points awarded)
However I did my B.Tech along with my work and completed in the year 2010.So my highest qualification is Bachelor’s degree and i got 15 points for the same.
Case officer had missed the point that i have Diploma to prove my qualification prior to the work and she is reluctant to award points for experience before my B.TECH(i.e 2006-2010).I have explained the same situation to DIAC and waiting for their response.
Hope it is clear now....
Thanks to all for your inputs...
I would like to clarify that i had applied ACS for 263111 code.
I have qualification equivalent to AQF Diploma with major in computing which I did in year 2003 prior to starting my employment.
I got Positive skill assessment for 8 years experience from ACS (15 points awarded)
However I did my B.Tech along with my work and completed in the year 2010.So my highest qualification is Bachelor’s degree and i got 15 points for the same.
Case officer had missed the point that i have Diploma to prove my qualification prior to the work and she is reluctant to award points for experience before my B.TECH(i.e 2006-2010).I have explained the same situation to DIAC and waiting for their response.
Hope it is clear now....
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Re: Currently you do not meet the invited score:(
I am sorry if i am unable to explain my situation....
The situation is i did my Diploma in 2003 and then 8 years of skilled experience...It should fetch me 15 points
EOPI asked me about my highest qualification which at this point of time is B.Tech so the skillselect gave me 15 Points for my b.Tech...
I hope i am meeting the criteria here......
The situation is i did my Diploma in 2003 and then 8 years of skilled experience...It should fetch me 15 points
EOPI asked me about my highest qualification which at this point of time is B.Tech so the skillselect gave me 15 Points for my b.Tech...
I hope i am meeting the criteria here......
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Re: Currently you do not meet the invited score:(
I am sorry if i am unable to explain my situation....
The situation is i did my Diploma in 2003 and then 8 years of skilled experience...It should fetch me 15 points
EOPI asked me about my highest qualification which at this point of time is B.Tech so the skillselect gave me 15 Points for my b.Tech...
I hope i am meeting the criteria here......
The situation is i did my Diploma in 2003 and then 8 years of skilled experience...It should fetch me 15 points
EOPI asked me about my highest qualification which at this point of time is B.Tech so the skillselect gave me 15 Points for my b.Tech...
I hope i am meeting the criteria here......
What it comes down to is that you believe that the experience you gained before the BTech should be usable for the purposes of points. DIAC appear to disagree with that.
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Re: Currently you do not meet the invited score:(
Hi Mausam,
What you've encountered is known as a "deeming date". They say that if ACS accepted a qualification as relevant to being a professional then you couldn't have been a professional beforehand. This is just another example of how disingenuous DIAC is - they desperately try to tell people that they don't need migration agents but then to find out about their current deeming date approach you'd need to have purchased $2000 worth of databases and know how to research it.
Mausam if you haven't had a refusal already then I'm interested in helping, email below.
Cheers,
George Lombard
What you've encountered is known as a "deeming date". They say that if ACS accepted a qualification as relevant to being a professional then you couldn't have been a professional beforehand. This is just another example of how disingenuous DIAC is - they desperately try to tell people that they don't need migration agents but then to find out about their current deeming date approach you'd need to have purchased $2000 worth of databases and know how to research it.
Mausam if you haven't had a refusal already then I'm interested in helping, email below.
Cheers,
George Lombard
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Re: Currently you do not meet the invited score:(
Hi Mausam,
What you've encountered is known as a "deeming date". They say that if ACS accepted a qualification as relevant to being a professional then you couldn't have been a professional beforehand. This is just another example of how disingenuous DIAC is - they desperately try to tell people that they don't need migration agents but then to find out about their current deeming date approach you'd need to have purchased $2000 worth of databases and know how to research it.
Mausam if you haven't had a refusal already then I'm interested in helping, email below.
Cheers,
George Lombard
What you've encountered is known as a "deeming date". They say that if ACS accepted a qualification as relevant to being a professional then you couldn't have been a professional beforehand. This is just another example of how disingenuous DIAC is - they desperately try to tell people that they don't need migration agents but then to find out about their current deeming date approach you'd need to have purchased $2000 worth of databases and know how to research it.
Mausam if you haven't had a refusal already then I'm interested in helping, email below.
Cheers,
George Lombard
What is "deeming date"? Is this a new stuff?
Thanks
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Re: Currently you do not meet the invited score:(
You can search that term on this forum - it used to be very common for ACS and TRA applications where the skills assessment said that someone had attained a skill level as of a particular date. Mausam needs an agent basically.
Cheers,
George Lombard
Cheers,
George Lombard
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Re: Currently you do not meet the invited score:(
Hi George,
I had applied for this immigration through a migration agent.
Can i claim 8+ years along with my degree? I don't have any gape in my experience and I have proof for that.
Can you please tell me if Bachelor Degree points will be awarded to me as that is my highest qualification now.
I had applied for this immigration through a migration agent.
Can i claim 8+ years along with my degree? I don't have any gape in my experience and I have proof for that.
Can you please tell me if Bachelor Degree points will be awarded to me as that is my highest qualification now.
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Re: Currently you do not meet the invited score:(
Hi George,
I had applied for this immigration through a migration agent.
Can i claim 8+ years along with my degree? I don't have any gape in my experience and I have proof for that.
Can you please tell me if Bachelor Degree points will be awarded to me as that is my highest qualification now.
I had applied for this immigration through a migration agent.
Can i claim 8+ years along with my degree? I don't have any gape in my experience and I have proof for that.
Can you please tell me if Bachelor Degree points will be awarded to me as that is my highest qualification now.
If your agent is a registered migration agent then they should be answering these questions. If the person is not registered then of course you get what you pay for, very sorry.
Cheers,
George Lombard
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Re: Currently you do not meet the invited score:(
Cheers!!!
Mausam, as your name suggesting I believe you are an Indian origin. If you need an agent then make sure that you are using a MARA agent like George. I do not think so that there are many in India who are registered, transparent and reliable. Hence, hiring agent like George who is vast experienced and helpful will be best option for you.
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Re: Currently you do not meet the invited score:(
If I remember correctly, I was in a similar situation almost 10 years back. In fact ACS assessment came back as "unsuitable for migration". Then I asked George to be my agent. Now I am a citizen :-)
I would highly recommend George for these type of issues. He has dealt extensively with persons of Indian origin with Indian qualifications.
I would highly recommend George for these type of issues. He has dealt extensively with persons of Indian origin with Indian qualifications.
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263111 & confusion on points for experience and qualification
As per the ANZSCO, the Skill Level entry requirement for the occupation of a Computer Network and Systems Engineer- ANZSCO - 263111 is a Bachelor degree or higher qualification. At least five years of relevant experience and or relevant vendor certification may substitute for the formal qualification.
Case Officer had replied:
->As per the skills assessment provided from ACS dated 05/09/2012, your Associate MembershipExamination Parts A and B from the Institution of Engineers completed in September 2010 has been assessed as comparable to an Australian Bachelor Degree.This means that your skilled
level of employment begins only after September 2010. This would mean that you would only meet 3 out of 10 years of skilled employment points as you were invited on 01/10/2012.
Question:If skilled employment is calculated after September than its 2 years by now and not 3 years.
->"total skilled work experience to the date of application equates to 8years and 4 months. If 5 years of work experience is taken in lieu of formal qualification, you will have only 3 years and 4 months of work at the skilled level provided you meet the employment requirements."
Case officer advised us to withdraw the case.We are planning to apply an EOI.
All Senior Memebers here meed your help and advice.......
Can you please let me know what is the highest qualification i should mention in EOI in the above snenario?
Case Officer had replied:
->As per the skills assessment provided from ACS dated 05/09/2012, your Associate MembershipExamination Parts A and B from the Institution of Engineers completed in September 2010 has been assessed as comparable to an Australian Bachelor Degree.This means that your skilled
level of employment begins only after September 2010. This would mean that you would only meet 3 out of 10 years of skilled employment points as you were invited on 01/10/2012.
Question:If skilled employment is calculated after September than its 2 years by now and not 3 years.
->"total skilled work experience to the date of application equates to 8years and 4 months. If 5 years of work experience is taken in lieu of formal qualification, you will have only 3 years and 4 months of work at the skilled level provided you meet the employment requirements."
Case officer advised us to withdraw the case.We are planning to apply an EOI.
All Senior Memebers here meed your help and advice.......
Can you please let me know what is the highest qualification i should mention in EOI in the above snenario?
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Re: 263111 & confusion on points for experience and qualification
As per the ANZSCO, the Skill Level entry requirement for the occupation of a Computer Network and Systems Engineer- ANZSCO - 263111 is a Bachelor degree or higher qualification. At least five years of relevant experience and or relevant vendor certification may substitute for the formal qualification.
Case Officer had replied:
->As per the skills assessment provided from ACS dated 05/09/2012, your Associate MembershipExamination Parts A and B from the Institution of Engineers completed in September 2010 has been assessed as comparable to an Australian Bachelor Degree.This means that your skilled
level of employment begins only after September 2010. This would mean that you would only meet 3 out of 10 years of skilled employment points as you were invited on 01/10/2012.
Question:If skilled employment is calculated after September than its 2 years by now and not 3 years.
->"total skilled work experience to the date of application equates to 8years and 4 months. If 5 years of work experience is taken in lieu of formal qualification, you will have only 3 years and 4 months of work at the skilled level provided you meet the employment requirements."
Case officer advised us to withdraw the case.We are planning to apply an EOI.
All Senior Memebers here meed your help and advice.......
Can you please let me know what is the highest qualification i should mention in EOI in the above snenario?
Case Officer had replied:
->As per the skills assessment provided from ACS dated 05/09/2012, your Associate MembershipExamination Parts A and B from the Institution of Engineers completed in September 2010 has been assessed as comparable to an Australian Bachelor Degree.This means that your skilled
level of employment begins only after September 2010. This would mean that you would only meet 3 out of 10 years of skilled employment points as you were invited on 01/10/2012.
Question:If skilled employment is calculated after September than its 2 years by now and not 3 years.
->"total skilled work experience to the date of application equates to 8years and 4 months. If 5 years of work experience is taken in lieu of formal qualification, you will have only 3 years and 4 months of work at the skilled level provided you meet the employment requirements."
Case officer advised us to withdraw the case.We are planning to apply an EOI.
All Senior Memebers here meed your help and advice.......
Can you please let me know what is the highest qualification i should mention in EOI in the above snenario?
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Re: 263111 & confusion on points for experience and qualification
As per the ANZSCO, the Skill Level entry requirement for the occupation of a Computer Network and Systems Engineer- ANZSCO - 263111 is a Bachelor degree or higher qualification. At least five years of relevant experience and or relevant vendor certification may substitute for the formal qualification.
Case Officer had replied:
->As per the skills assessment provided from ACS dated 05/09/2012, your Associate MembershipExamination Parts A and B from the Institution of Engineers completed in September 2010 has been assessed as comparable to an Australian Bachelor Degree.This means that your skilled
level of employment begins only after September 2010. This would mean that you would only meet 3 out of 10 years of skilled employment points as you were invited on 01/10/2012.
Question:If skilled employment is calculated after September than its 2 years by now and not 3 years.
->"total skilled work experience to the date of application equates to 8years and 4 months. If 5 years of work experience is taken in lieu of formal qualification, you will have only 3 years and 4 months of work at the skilled level provided you meet the employment requirements."
Case officer advised us to withdraw the case.We are planning to apply an EOI.
All Senior Memebers here meed your help and advice.......
Can you please let me know what is the highest qualification i should mention in EOI in the above snenario?
Case Officer had replied:
->As per the skills assessment provided from ACS dated 05/09/2012, your Associate MembershipExamination Parts A and B from the Institution of Engineers completed in September 2010 has been assessed as comparable to an Australian Bachelor Degree.This means that your skilled
level of employment begins only after September 2010. This would mean that you would only meet 3 out of 10 years of skilled employment points as you were invited on 01/10/2012.
Question:If skilled employment is calculated after September than its 2 years by now and not 3 years.
->"total skilled work experience to the date of application equates to 8years and 4 months. If 5 years of work experience is taken in lieu of formal qualification, you will have only 3 years and 4 months of work at the skilled level provided you meet the employment requirements."
Case officer advised us to withdraw the case.We are planning to apply an EOI.
All Senior Memebers here meed your help and advice.......
Can you please let me know what is the highest qualification i should mention in EOI in the above snenario?