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Old Dec 1st 2013, 9:46 pm
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This is what I'm trying to get , but agent is submitting for skilled migrant visa and says without the references she can't submit application? Trouble is getting references from uk takes while. Really wanted them before Xmas and deal with resi later date. Think go to immigration office Friday and see what they say, as we basically got everything else done.
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Perhaps we are talking at cross-purposes here.

What do you mean by a

"skilled migrant visa" please?



Originally Posted by NZIS
I have a job offer from a New Zealand employer

If you have a job offer from a New Zealand employer and do not fall under one of the categories for specialist workers below, you may apply under the Essential Skills work category. The employer will need to show that no New Zealand citizens or residents are available to do the job, either by:
  • showing that the job is included in one of the Essential Skills In Demand Lists; or
  • providing evidence that they have genuinely tried to find a New Zealand worker to fill the position.
In addition, you must be appropriately qualified by training or experience to take up the position. See the full list of requirements.

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About the temp work visa available to you.

From HERE (click the link)

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Requirements you must meet

In addition to meeting our health and character requirements, you will need to prove that you are suitably qualified for the position by showing evidence of qualificationsor training you have undertaken or work experience you have gained.

When assessing whether you are suitably qualified for a position, we will consider whether you have the qualifications and/or work experience described as the prerequisite for the occupation on the ANZSCO.
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Skilled migrant visa - this is what agents are applying for as OH trade is on the skilled shortage list.
Now the recruitment agent (job offer) can get OH visa but I would have to sort myself out, god knows what visa I can get? So as OH skill is on shortage list our consultants (doing visa app) are applying for skilled migrant visa which gets me a work visa also, then can apply for residence. With this skilled visa you have to provide your qualified right level and show references that OH been doing this skilled trade for 3yrs to be accepted, this is what been told.
This is all confusing as you can see! medicals are all done, job offer contract all done just need work visas ASAP so he can start work!
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The agent seems to be using terms that aren't used on the Immigration site which is confusing things. We were told by an Immigration Agent that my husbands degree wasn't valid and couldn't be used because it was not in the field of work that he had applied for. This was totally incorrect and we did use and get points for it.

As you have already said you will go to the Immigration Office, do that with all the paperwork to hand and then come back and let us know what they say.

Good luck

might be useful if you put in your signature what visa you are already on at the moment
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I think consultants try to delay things etc to get more money?! We currently on visitor visa (waiver as from uk) so not working just travelling about whilst sorting this out but obviously OH has been offered this job and got all contract, just got to get visas so can start work. Most my paperwork is with consultant I only have medicals at hand as not sent to consultants yet.
There is a skilled migrant cat on immigration site, there also temp work visas - this is what's confusing me as if it's less hassle and quicker to just get temp visas I don't know what the issue is? Did your OH get temp visa? What visa did you then get?
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my husband got a temp work visa to enable him to start work immediately, then updated his EOI online to include the job offer that put us over the 140 points needed for the skilled migrant visa. That was in Sept 2011.
ITA (invitation to apply) was submitted to UK office end of Oct 2011.
Myself and the children came over in January 2012 on visitors visa, we planned a return in the June for eldest sons birthday. We gained our approval for SMC visa in Feb 2012, which allowed myself to take up employment and the kids to start school without having to pay international student fees
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Get all your paper work back from the agent and take them along with you to the Immigration Office. Do you have a reference from the agent to your case submitted to Immigration or have they not done that yet?
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You know what I think MrsF? Chezzie here should sack the juggler.

I am a bit shocked that any immigration consultant or recruitment agent for that matter would have explained simple matters so poorly to their client that they are left this confused about what visas they can apply for and are paying for.

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Skilled migrant visa - this is what agents are applying for
No . It can be an essential skill work visa . That is it. No such thing as skilled migrant visa when it comes to work visas.

Later you might apply for residency under the 'skilled migrant category'. This will not have happened yet .

.......as OH trade is on the skilled shortage list.
Bricklayer is <edit here so not to confuse> on the Canterbury shortage list


..... the recruitment agent (job offer) can get OH visa but I would have to sort myself out, god knows what visa I can get?
What ! Any recruitment agent worth their salt will know how the visas work.
An essential skills work visa for both of you based on your OH job offer and contract. His will be tied to the employer. You will gain an open work visa.


our consultants (doing visa app) are applying for skilled migrant visa which gets me a work visa also,
No such thing. It is an essential skill work visa as explained above and in previous posts.

...then can apply for residence.
Well yes. If you have the points for a quality application.

With this skilled visa you have to provide your qualified right level and show references that OH been doing this skilled trade for 3yrs to be accepted
I have posted what is required and quoted from the NZIS website .

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Originally Posted by chezzie
I think consultants try to delay things etc to get more money?!
No. That is not allowed.

We currently on visitor visa (waiver as from uk) so not working just travelling about whilst sorting this out but obviously OH has been offered this job and got all contract, just got to get visas so can start work. Most my paperwork is with consultant I only have medicals at hand as not sent to consultants yet.
Either get the paperwork back or sort the agent and consultant out. This is a nonsense.

There is a skilled migrant cat on immigration site
Yes there is. That is for NZ residency applications

, there also temp work visas
Yes there are. Yours would be the essential skill work visa

- this is what's confusing me as if it's less hassle and quicker to just get temp visas I don't know what the issue is?
Neither do I.

Did your OH get temp visa? What visa did you then get?
My plumber husband had a job offer. He applied for a temp work visa to get him here and working. I applied for an open work visa on the back of his application under family.
Both forms went to NZIS together with the relevant paperwork.
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My brain is spinning! Just read through this thread and I'll mention some points that come to mind, sorry if they've been written above but I'm a bit confused myself now The agent is not doing a very good job of explaining things at all, I agree with the others-sack them or insist that they explain everything in detail so that you're happy. It's your money!

There is confusion over the types of visa and their names so I'll go back to basics here. I can only think of three visas you and OH can possibly apply for:

1. Essential Skills Work Visa-aka Work Visa. Temporary only. You apply for separate work/visit/study visas on the back of your partner's visa.

2. Skilled Migrant Category - this is an application for residence only and is based on points. It is likely you would need a job offer to guarantee success with this option, the offer would need to be permanent or ongoing. The whole family goes on one application so no need for separate visas like the above. It takes longer to be assessed than the above so often people apply for a work visa in order to start work quicker.

3. Work to Residence - you would have to apply under the Talent[accredited employer] stream. The employer must be accredited [NZIS has pre approved them to hire from overseas], the job must have a salary of at least $55,000 for a 40 hour week and be for at least two years. Your OH would be issued a work visa for 30mth which can be converted to residence after he has worked for 24mth. It is dependent on the job offer. You apply for separate work/visit/study visas on the back of your OH's visa and residence when your OH can.


Bricklayers are on the Canterbury skills shortage list only, it is not on either of the other two lists. Unfortunately the website does not include this list when you search the lists so it's easily missed.
What this means is that you can apply for a Work Visa on the back of the job offer.


I suspect the need for work references is based on the ANZSCO list for bricklayers, this lists the skill level and qualifications needed to be classed as skilled in each particular occupation:
In New Zealand: NZ Register Level 4 qualification (ANZSCO Skill Level 3)
At least three years of relevant experience may substitute for the formal qualifications listed above. In some instances relevant experience and/or on-the-job training may be required in addition to the formal qualification.
This is to prove that your OH is suitably skilled for the job. So if the qualification is not at level 4 then get as much proof as possible and explain the situation to NZIS. They'll have had similar cases to yours.


Hoping I haven't confused things more. If I have then ignore this post
Knowing the basics on the visas you can get might make the terminology easier to understand.
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Originally Posted by Persephone

Bricklayers are on the Canterbury skills shortage list only, it is not on either of the other two lists. Unfortunately the website does not include this list when you search the lists so it's easily missed.
What this means is that you can apply for a Work Visa on the back of the job offer.
Ah! Thank goodness for you. I couldn't find it and now I know why. Serves me right for not looking manually & you know what's more annoying. I actually spent time a while ago typing the list out by hand. What a nitwit.


Good news the occupation is on the ChCh shortage list.

I agree about the trade qual. I wonder if there is something in the NVQ3 that isn't a full trade qual. Perhaps not done whilst on the tools.

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Thank you to you all for trying to help me and provide information
Well I have been chasing up people in the uk for references, I have couple at hand and rest hopefully be here next week? I am just going to submit this and see what happens. Spoke to consultants who tell me I will need tax returns on top of this as OH was self employed at one job, I've told her to just get on and process visa application for temp work visas as I've done everything needed, she still insists on me getting a pre assessment of OH qualification done, which I may do .... And now on top of all this I find out I'm pregnant! :? Good and bad news at the same time ... Cost of health care here is high! Not best timing really but at same time happy....worried this will screw up visas and really could of done with this happening in 6 months time
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Congrats on the pregnancy.

You really would be better of by the looks of things just doing it yourself. Its a temp visa after all and can easily be done by yourselves.

When OH went in to get his the guy gave him a 12mth one which requires a medical but he just said "ahh you'll have your PR by then and medicals done for that so don't bother about them for this" and duly handed over the visa.
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Congrats on the pregnancy.

You really would be better of by the looks of things just doing it yourself. Its a temp visa after all and can easily be done by yourselves.

When OH went in to get his the guy gave him a 12mth one which requires a medical but he just said "ahh you'll have your PR by then and medicals done for that so don't bother about them for this" and duly handed over the visa.

Thank you

Blimey that sounds laid back! like it. Your probably right, I only went with consultants as thought save lot of stress and paper work etc whilst on the move, but hasn't gone that way haha. We got medicals done so not to worry. Another quick question did you have to get police certificates done?
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