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Old Apr 23rd 2008, 1:22 am
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I am new to the NZ immigration process. I would appreciate if somebody could give me some hints where to start. I went to the immigration site of NZ govt and took the online test. The result came positive, but I was not sure few things, specially work experience.

How do they calculate work experience?

The reason I ask that question is that my work experience is not a traditional one. I have about 6 years of full-time equivalent work experience, but it is not a continuous one and it is in few different fields, mostly IT ((Network Analyst, Systems Analyst, Systems Specialist, Database Admin, Graduate Assistant, and Management Analyst). Work experience was gained during undergrad, and grad schools and in between (mostly part-time).

I have been in my current job for 6 months (full-time).

Do you think if I have enough work experience for NZ immigration?
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Originally Posted by Want2Move View Post
I am new to the NZ immigration process. I would appreciate if somebody could give me some hints where to start. I went to the immigration site of NZ govt and took the online test. The result came positive, but I was not sure few things, specially work experience.

How do they calculate work experience?

The reason I ask that question is that my work experience is not a traditional one. I have about 6 years of full-time equivalent work experience, but it is not a continuous one and it is in few different fields, mostly IT ((Network Analyst, Systems Analyst, Systems Specialist, Database Admin, Graduate Assistant, and Management Analyst). Work experience was gained during undergrad, and grad schools and in between (mostly part-time).

I have been in my current job for 6 months (full-time).

Do you think if I have enough work experience for NZ immigration?

Hello, have a look at an expression of interest..they are available on line. Are you in the skills gap area? If not you need to get a job offer from an accredited employer, you can then get your perm. residence via this route. I have heard you need to earn a minimum of around $50k to go this route..can anyone confirm.

Do loads of research. What attracts you to NZ. Do you know the wages in your field of expertise? Have a look at www.trademe.co.nz

That is our version of e bay and will give you an idea of how much things cost. Petrol here is almost $2nz a gallon now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:curse:
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Hello, have a look at an expression of interest..they are available on line. Are you in the skills gap area? If not you need to get a job offer from an accredited employer, you can then get your perm. residence via this route. I have heard you need to earn a minimum of around $50k to go this route..can anyone confirm.

Do loads of research. What attracts you to NZ. Do you know the wages in your field of expertise? Have a look at www.trademe.co.nz

That is our version of e bay and will give you an idea of how much things cost. Petrol here is almost $2nz a gallon now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:curse:
Appreciate your comments. Petrol is pretty expensive here too. By the way, we call it gas where I live and it is US$3.50 per gallon. I wil definatley go through the website you have provided.

I believe that one or two of my work experience fall under skill gap area (systems Analyst for sure, but I need to look at the rest in detail). I do not have a job offer in NZ and I have never been there.

First thing I would like to figure out is that I am qualified based on my work experience. After that I will start studying about NZ.
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Hello, have a look at an expression of interest..they are available on line. Are you in the skills gap area? If not you need to get a job offer from an accredited employer, you can then get your perm. residence via this route. I have heard you need to earn a minimum of around $50k to go this route..can anyone confirm.

Do loads of research. What attracts you to NZ. Do you know the wages in your field of expertise? Have a look at www.trademe.co.nz

That is our version of e bay and will give you an idea of how much things cost. Petrol here is almost $2nz a gallon now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:curse:
by gallon you mean litre!!
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Originally Posted by Want2Move View Post
I am new to the NZ immigration process. I would appreciate if somebody could give me some hints where to start. I went to the immigration site of NZ govt and took the online test. The result came positive, but I was not sure few things, specially work experience.

How do they calculate work experience?

The reason I ask that question is that my work experience is not a traditional one. I have about 6 years of full-time equivalent work experience, but it is not a continuous one and it is in few different fields, mostly IT ((Network Analyst, Systems Analyst, Systems Specialist, Database Admin, Graduate Assistant, and Management Analyst). Work experience was gained during undergrad, and grad schools and in between (mostly part-time).
I have been in my current job for 6 months (full-time).
Do you think if I have enough work experience for NZ immigration?
Is your work experience relevant to your qualification? If it is , then you can claim points for that.

The first thing you should do is check whether your skill & occupation is on the shortages lists.

There are two lists.
1] Immediate shortage list
2] Long term shortage list.

Look to the right hand side of THIS LINK under Toolbox for the lists.

Next, you should look to see whether your qualification/degree is recognised by NZIS. The list can be found under Recognised Qualifications at the bottom of the ToolBox.

You would most likely need to have your overseas US of A qualifications assessed by NZQA. The NZ immigration service use the assessments from NZQA .

New Zealand wants people coming into New Zealand to have a skill level in a given occupation which is equivalent to the standard set by NZ . Each occupation has a skill level. It is that level which you need to match to claim points for your occupation & so claim points for a permanent residency application

.Hope that helps a little. Please do come back with any further questions.
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Is your work experience relevant to your qualification? If it is , then you can claim points for that.

The first thing you should do is check whether your skill & occupation is on the shortages lists.

There are two lists.
1] Immediate shortage list
2] Long term shortage list.

Look to the right hand side of THIS LINK under Toolbox for the lists.

Next, you should look to see whether your qualification/degree is recognised by NZIS. The list can be found under Recognised Qualifications at the bottom of the ToolBox.

You would most likely need to have your overseas US of A qualifications assessed by NZQA. The NZ immigration service use the assessments from NZQA .

New Zealand wants people coming into New Zealand to have a skill level in a given occupation which is equivalent to the standard set by NZ . Each occupation has a skill level. It is that level which you need to match to claim points for your occupation & so claim points for a permanent residency application

.Hope that helps a little. Please do come back with any further questions.
I really appreciate your time and answers to my questions.

I believe that my work experience is related to my qualification. I have BSc in Management with Management Information Systems emphasis, Master of Public Policy (MPP), and MSc in Management Information Systems.

IT Specialist was listed under immediate shortage list, but I think that experience is too old for NZ immigration. Last time I did that job was on Dec 2006.

Systems Analyst is listed under long term shortage list. They also have Management & Project Management Staff and Policy planning & Research Staff are listed under there too and I think my current job can be qualified for one of those, but the experience I have is only 6 months.

Now I need to figure this thing out. On the right hand side of the job titles, it says this, "Degree-level (Level 7) qualification majoring in computer science, information science or information technology AND three years of relevant work experience"

I believe that I can satisfy the degree-level requirement, but I am not sure if I can satisfy the experience requirement. I did work for 3 years as a Systems Analyst (2002-2005), but it was not always full-time. It was full-time for 1 year and part-time (20 hrs/wk) for 2 years. I did this work after my undergrad. I would appreciate if you could tell me if my work experience as a Systems Analyst is enough.

I also saw an occupation under long term shortage list: University Lecture. Qualification needed for this occupation was either Master or PhD and it did not say anything about work experience. Can I apply under that category? I would love to teach even though I have never taught in college level other than proctoring exams and grading papers and tests.

I am not a native speaker of English (which you can tell from my writing). All of my post secondary education was done in the US. Do I have to take IELTS?

I am sorry I have too many questions. Thank you so much for your time.
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Immigration NZ look to more than the new Australian and New Zealand Standard Classification of Occupations (ANZSCO) to determine whether you have sufficient work experience.

There are additional or alternative methods used under their Work Manual. If you would like more information please feel free to contact me.

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by gallon you mean litre!!
No, they use gallons in the US.
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Immigration NZ look to more than the new Australian and New Zealand Standard Classification of Occupations (ANZSCO) to determine whether you have sufficient work experience.

There are additional or alternative methods used under their Work Manual. If you would like more information please feel free to contact me.

Cheers

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It looks like you run a migration business, so I am wondering if you provide a free evaluation. Are you going to provide me more information on work manual for free or I need to pay something? Thanks.
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It looks like you run a migration business, so I am wondering if you provide a free evaluation. Are you going to provide me more information on work manual for free or I need to pay something? Thanks.
Hi Want2Move,

I do run an immigration firm in New Zealand, if you would like to learn more please visit our website and you can complete a free migration assessment form. Normally, we try to reply to all assessments within 24 hrs.

Good luck and I hope to hear from you.

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If Work Manual means the NZIS Operations Manual, then it is free to look at on the NZIS website.

LINK HERE

SM11 is the area about work experience.

Work experience is recognised and qualifies for points if it meets the requirements set out at (a) and (b) below:

1. A visa or immigration officer must be satisfied that work experience is:
1. relevant to the principal applicant's* current skilled employment in New Zealand or offer of skilled employment in New Zealand (see SM7); or
2. relevant to the principal applicant's* recognised qualification (see SM14); or
3. skilled, because it required, or enabled the principal applicant* to gain specialist, technical or management skills and experience relevant to an occupation that is included in the lists of occupations held at Appendix 11 or Appendix 12.
2. Work experience must also have been gained in a labour market that is comparable to the New Zealand labour market unless:
1. the work experience meets the requirements set out at SM13.20 for work experience in an area of absolute skills shortage; or
2. the principal applicant* has current skilled employment in New Zealand or an offer of skilled employment in New Zealand (see SM7).

SM11.10.1 Definition: Comparable labour market

1. Work experience is assessed as being in a comparable labour market if it was undertaken in one of the following countries by:
1. a citizen or permanent resident of that country; or
2. a person who had the lawful authority to work in that country.

Australia
Malaysia
Austria
New Zealand
Belgium-Luxembourg
Netherlands
Canada
Norway
Cyprus
Philippines
Denmark
Portugal
Finland
Republic of South Korea
France
Singapore
Germany
South Africa
Greece
Spain
Iceland
Sweden
Ireland
Switzerland
Israel
United Kingdom
Italy
United States
Japan


2. Work experience undertaken in a country not listed at (a) above will be assessed as being in a comparable labour market only if it was undertaken for a multinational commercial entity (including a wholly or majority owned subsidiary of such an entity that bears the same core name as the parent company) domiciled in one of the countries listed in (a) above.

SM11.10.5 Relevance of work experience to qualifications

Work experience is relevant to a principal applicant's* recognised qualification if a visa or immigration officer is satisfied that the qualification was:

1. an important factor in the principal applicant* being able to obtain work or continue or advance in the position or field of work in which they have experience; or
2. an important factor in a career path that has advanced progressively from the principal applicant's* pre-qualification work experience.

SM11.10.10 Relevance of work experience to an offer of skilled employment in New Zealand

Work experience is relevant to a principal applicant's* offer of skilled employment in New Zealand if an employer considers, and a visa or immigration officer is satisfied that:

1. the work experience is directly applicable to the employment offered; and/or
2. the offer of employment could not reasonably have been made if the principal applicant* did not have that work experience.
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