Which Job and Who Can Offer a Job

Old Jun 16th 2012, 11:33 am
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Hi Everyone,

I am in New Zealand on Silver Fern Job Search Visa and still struggling to find any skilled job to apply for Silver Fern Practical Experience. Can anyone clarify few confusions about the subjected issues:

1. Can I apply for Silver Fern Practical Experience based on the full time skilled job offer in any occupation ? Either it does not related to my previous studies and experience or I have to have job offer in my own area of expertise?

2. What is the criteria for employer who can offer me a role.

3. Can an employer who has started his business 6 months ago and has not started earning profit from his business offer a job and will the immigration department accept that offer ?

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1. Can I apply for Silver Fern Practical Experience based on the full time skilled job offer in any occupation ? Either it does not related to my previous studies and experience or I have to have job offer in my own area of expertise?
There doesn't appear to be anything stating that it must be in your area of expertise. Only that the job must be classed as skilled under the SMC.
For the purpose of these instructions, skilled employment is employment which would be
assessed as skilled under the Skilled Migrant Category (SM7.10).
2. What is the criteria for employer who can offer me a role.
Skilled employment
Also:

To be eligible for a Silver Fern Practical Experience visa, your job offer must also:
be current for at least 12 months
be for full-time employment
be genuine
be paid by salary or wages or in terms of a contract for service (not by commission or retainer)
meet the generic work visa instructions at W2.10 of the Operational Manual.

3. Can an employer who has started his business 6 months ago and has not started earning profit from his business offer a job and will the immigration department accept that offer ?
If you have a job offer for at least 12m then I would say that it should be ok. The visa will specify that you can only work for that employer so if the business fails to expand and you lose your job then you would need to change visas.
Silver Fern Practical Experience visas must be granted with the following conditions mposed by special direction:
i the holder may work in the occupation specified on their job offer;
ii the holder may work for the employer specified on their job offer;
iii the holder may work at the location specified on their job offer.
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Thanks Persephone,

If you have a job offer for at least 12m then I would say that it should be ok. The visa will specify that you can only work for that employer so if the business fails to expand and you lose your job then you would need to change visas.
but after your reply Some more questions in my head

What will be my right for switching the employer ?

While working with first employer if I got better opportunity with any other employer Can I switch my job ?

And can other employer hire me or will they consider me after knowing my status ?

Just to clarify the situation the role I am have been offered is for very lower skill level compare to my skills, But as I am running out of time at the moment I do not have any other option to accept.

What would be your advice in this scenario ?

BEVS I am also waiting for your reply.

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Old Jun 19th 2012, 9:24 am
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The Operational Manual does not have a lot of information under Silver Fern Visa about changing jobs or employer. It does say to follow instructions on generic work visas which say that to change you have to apply for variation of conditions.
I would assume that if your new job fits the description of skilled work etc then this should not be a problem but I would suggest you speak to NZIS about this and get a definite answer. If you don't have enough time then you'll have to take the job offered and take it from there but please confirm this first
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HI FriendForEver

Grab it what you are getting and apply for silver fern practical visa immediately but dont resign from your current job in your home location till you get your visa stamped with silver fern practical... BTW from which country you are.....I am from India will submit all documents next month....Best of luck brother..I hope we all 606 Silver fern visa approved applicants get job this time....It is golden opportunity due to funny system error at INZ....
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HI FriendForEver

Grab it what you are getting and apply for silver fern practical visa immediately but dont resign from your current job in your home location till you get your visa stamped with silver fern practical... BTW from which country you are.....I am from India will submit all documents next month....Best of luck brother..I hope we all 606 Silver fern visa approved applicants get job this time....It is golden opportunity due to funny system error at INZ....
good day abhishsh! I too will send docs at the beginning of july. hope we get there after all this troubles. main concern now is job offer, did you send any app to emplyers in nz yet?

thx and have a great day!
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Hi Razvan,

From where you are ? I have sent many application but they only and only consider application from NZ citizen, Resident or authorised to work.
But in our case it is job search visa and they are not much keen....
Biggest chanllenge is JOB offer brother.. it seems very difficult more than silver fern. Have you sent any application what is the reply and BTW what is your background and profession ?
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Hi Razvan,

From where you are ? I have sent many application but they only and only consider application from NZ citizen, Resident or authorised to work.
But in our case it is job search visa and they are not much keen....
Biggest chanllenge is JOB offer brother.. it seems very difficult more than silver fern. Have you sent any application what is the reply and BTW what is your background and profession ?
Hi mate, I'm from Romania - Europe. Yes just today I've send more apps to nz employers. I have a batchelor degree in buss&adm and for the past 4-4,5ys I've been working for a telecom company as a quality assurance analyst. My main target in terms of jobs is telecom, that's why I'm very confident that I'll get a job at Vodafone NZ or similar.

But I don't reject the ideea to work in other areas such as fitness, constructions or sports. My purpose is to get SFV->PR. I really want to settle in NZ for good. And as any beginning/new start I don't expect to be easy but this is my dream and I'll do anything to accomplish it.

Regarding reply time and stuff, the only quick response and positive too was from volunteering area, 3 out of 5 responses.

Hope will all live the nz dream!

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well mate, i assume its going to be a stuff one. im from malaysia and been approved with SFV Job Search. Did applied about 10 jobs from where i live but apparently its all been rejected even though you're applying for the right position, not sure if the hiring manager prefer you to be at NZ but the feedback from them ...usually the normal script "we find you interesting but other candidates more suitable for the role....bla bla bla"

now im bit skeptical whether should i land in auckland and stay there for a month and start applying for the job, since my current company allows me to do Work From Home, so i could just work from auckland till i secure a position in auckland.

my background: SAP Basis +6years exp

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HI FriendForEver

Grab it what you are getting and apply for silver fern practical visa immediately but dont resign from your current job in your home location till you get your visa stamped with silver fern practical... BTW from which country you are.....I am from India will submit all documents next month....Best of luck brother..I hope we all 606 Silver fern visa approved applicants get job this time....It is golden opportunity due to funny system error at INZ....
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well mate, i assume its going to be a stuff one. im from malaysia and been approved with SFV Job Search. Did applied about 10 jobs from where i live but apparently its all been rejected even though you're applying for the right position, not sure if the hiring manager prefer you to be at NZ but the feedback from them ...usually the normal script "we find you interesting but other candidates more suitable for the role....bla bla bla"

now im bit skeptical whether should i land in auckland and stay there for a month and start applying for the job, since my current company allows me to do Work From Home, so i could just work from auckland till i secure a position in auckland.

my background: SAP Basis +6years exp
Hi Oxide

Were you successful enough to get a job in your profile. How is the market for IT jobs especially related to SAP . How long did it take for you to fetch the right job after landing in NZ.

Hope that by now you would have got ur PR

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