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scotsgranny Oct 1st 2013 3:22 pm

How can I prove I speak english
 
I was born in UK of British parents, grandparents, greatgrand parents etc.
How can I prove that English is my first language. I'll be 70 next week and every school I went to has gone.

TIA

Una

Pica Oct 1st 2013 3:26 pm

Re: How can I prove I speak english
 
Why do you need to prove this?

scotsgranny Oct 1st 2013 3:36 pm

Re: How can I prove I speak english
 
The form says I have to prove that I can speak English and provide details of English speaking schools I have attended. These schools have long gone.
Seems to me that the forms are biased towards non-English speakers

Pica Oct 1st 2013 4:29 pm

Re: How can I prove I speak english
 
Can you not contact the LEA's (or the appropriate councils)for the schools you attended? Even if the schools have "gone" there should be records surely?
LEA's change but they'll be able to backtrack.

scotsgranny Oct 1st 2013 4:30 pm

Re: How can I prove I speak english
 
Thank you, I'll try that

BEVS Oct 1st 2013 8:44 pm

Re: How can I prove I speak english
 

Originally Posted by scotsgranny (Post 10925933)
The form says I have to prove that I can speak English and provide details of English speaking schools I have attended. These schools have long gone.
Seems to me that the forms are biased towards non-English speakers

Hi Scotsgranny.

Which forms are we talking about.

If you were born in the UK, educated in English and English is your first language , then I am not sure why you have to prove this.

Persephone Oct 2nd 2013 12:17 am

Re: How can I prove I speak english
 
You have to prove it for a SMC application.

Are you applying for a visa via family, as a parent?

For a SMC application you don't need to provide any documentation as long as it looks reasonable that you have a good standard of English. Obviously you are not applying for that though but your visa may be similar.
For me that meant ticking that I met the required standard and filling in a box writing something like the following: I was born in England to English speaking parents and all my education was in English.

If you were born in a non english speaking country then you will often have to provide other proof however. I think Scotland is classed as acceptable:p

scotsgranny Oct 2nd 2013 1:10 pm

Re: How can I prove I speak english
 
I got a bit bogged down reading all the forms :-) This is what it says.

all your primary education, and at least three years of your secondary education, at a school or schools that taught in English, or

at least five years of your secondary education at a school or schools that taught in English, or

a course taught in English that took at least three years and led to a tertiary qualification,

I'm sure Scots counts :-)

scotsgranny Oct 2nd 2013 1:58 pm

Re: How can I prove I speak english
 
Oops, I'm applying as a parent. Now I'm not sure if I need it or not:confused:

scot47 Oct 2nd 2013 2:00 pm

Re: How can I prove I speak english
 
Get an affidavit stating

I went to Auchtermuchty Academy from Year X to Year Y. Sworn before a Notary and signed in blood.

scotsgranny Oct 2nd 2013 2:05 pm

Re: How can I prove I speak english
 
That sounds like a solution:thumbsup:

BEVS Oct 2nd 2013 9:01 pm

Re: How can I prove I speak english
 

Originally Posted by Persephone (Post 10926658)
You have to prove it for a SMC application.

Bad use of English language on my part. :p I rather meant you don't need to provide evidence if English is your first language..


Originally Posted by scotsgranny
Oops, I'm applying as a parent. Now I'm not sure if I need it or not

You don't need to provide any evidence Scotsgranny. All you need do is tick the relevant boxes.

So.

For box E1 you ignore the first couple of statements and look down to tick " Otherwise meet the guide"

Then for Box E2 you write your reason why.
Something like
"Born and bred in Scotland. English is first/only kanguage. All education and training in English all my life"

or in words of your own choosing.

That is all you need do.

Providing evidence is only for those whose first language is not English.

scotsgranny Oct 2nd 2013 9:09 pm

Re: How can I prove I speak english
 
Thank you. I didn't notice the bad English. I remembered I had two diplomas. A 3 year one for Spanish and a two year one for Japanese and they would have worked. It's better that I don't need tem.

Thanks again


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