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Old Feb 3rd 2011, 9:28 pm
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Hi and welcome back to the NZ forum.

I'm sorry that you can't apply under the Skilled Migrant Category. Did you not have the necessary quals & work experience as a Hospitality Mananger or something?

So that we don't all repeat ourselves here, I'm going to re-open your original thread from Sept 2009 & move this post onto the end of it. It will help everyone to see the details you have already given to the board and what has been discussed previously.
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Hi and welcome back to the NZ forum.

I'm sorry that you can't apply under the Skilled Migrant Category. Did you not have the necessary quals & work experience as a Hospitality Mananger or something?

So that we don't all repeat ourselves here, I'm going to re-open your original thread from Sept 2009 & move this post onto the end of it. It will help everyone to see the details you have already given to the board and what has been discussed previously.
I have 4 years work experience but to them that's not enough. I don;t have qualifications from a Uni or college. I gained my Alcohol licence from when I started running my first pub in 2007. I am so confused with all the information.

I know the GWV is only temp, but I have to secure a job offer before I can start with the visa process. It's so long winded and I don't take information in that well as its so confusing.
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No worries. We're all like that at some point or other. That's what this place is for. To help each other out so we don't boil our own brains.

To run a pub you would have been sent for training first but I'll come back to that later on.

I have 4 years work experience but to them that's not enough.
Who is 'them'.

Now then. Temporary work visas.

As it stands at the moment it may be best for your partner to try for a job offer.
This is because his occupation as a heavy goods vehicle driver is needed here in NZ. This makes it OK for an NZ employer to offer your partner a job.

For your occupation , it isn't needed here at the moment so that makes it hard for an NZ employer to offer you a job.

That's in simple terms so as not to confuse you.

One step at a time.
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Ok. I found this just now.

Recreation, Hospitality and Tourism Café and Restaurant Manager (including Bar Manager) (141111) National Certificate in Hospitality (Operations Supervision) Level 4 AND a minimum of four years’ combined experience in hospitality establishments WITH a minimum of two years at supervisory level or higher Auckland/Upper North Island, Waikato/Bay of Plenty, Central North Island, Wellington, Canterbury/Upper South Island, Otago/Southland

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Transport Truck Driver (General) (733111) NZ recognised Full Class 5 Driver Licence and three years experience driving heavy combination vehicles with a gross combined weight of more than 25,000kg Auckland/Upper North Island, Waikato/Bay of Plenty, Central North Island, Wellington, Canterbury/Upper South Island, Otago/Southland

Where did you find your info from just so i can look it up please.
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OOpsie .

You're quite right. your occupation is on the immediate shortage list. It didn't come up on my first search.

Immediate shortage list

Hey ! You're better at it than you thought you were...... and better than me !
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So, have you seen this ? - ANZSCO

UNIT GROUP 1411 CAFE AND RESTAURANT MANAGERS
CAFE AND RESTAURANT MANAGERS organise and control the operations of cafes, restaurants and related establishments to provide dining and catering services.Indicative Skill Level:
Most occupations in this unit group have a level of skill commensurate with the qualifications and experience outlined below.
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    At least three years of relevant experience may substitute for the formal qualifications listed above.

    In some instances relevant experience and/or on-the-job training may be required in addition to the formal qualification
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    Originally Posted by BEVS View Post
    So, have you seen this ? - ANZSCO
    Now can you see why I am sooooo confused !!
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    Old Feb 3rd 2011, 11:38 pm
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    Originally Posted by ashaide View Post
    Now can you see why I am sooooo confused !!
    Not really.

    If you gain a full time permanent job offer in your skilled occupation then looking at that you should be able to go for PR if you have enough points. You have the years experience which could substitute for quals. You would need to collate your work exp and proof of training of course. Did you run a pub which was brewery owned?
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    I ran 4 pubs in manchester. 2 for the main brewery that I have come out of last year.

    I have worked for three brewery's in the manchester area.
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    Ok. I have just found out that we cannot get in under the skilled migrant Visa, and we have to go down the GWV route.
    So . Who told you this?

    You know your occupation is on the skilled occupation list and you can prove you have managed several pubs plus the training that goes with that.
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    Several company's

    One being Visa First. I can't think of the other one.

    So your saying that I can get in to Nz under the skilled migrant category?
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    Old Feb 4th 2011, 10:43 am
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    I'm not saying anything. I'm simply chatting with you about your occupation and your work experience etc.

    What I am showing you is this

    UNIT GROUP 1411 CAFE AND RESTAURANT MANAGERS
    CAFE AND RESTAURANT MANAGERS organise and control the operations of cafes, restaurants and related establishments to provide dining and catering services.Indicative Skill Level:
    Most occupations in this unit group have a level of skill commensurate with the qualifications and experience outlined below.
    In New Zealand:
    • NZ Register Diploma (ANZSCO Skill Level 2)
    At least three years of relevant experience may substitute for the formal qualifications listed above.

    In some instances relevant experience and/or on-the-job training may be required in addition to the formal qualification
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    Is this you ? Only you know. I can't see that for myself.

    Can you prove your work experience. If it was via a brewery then I know for a fact that you would have undergone training and placement first. Did you do that ?

    Did these pubs include meals? Most do.
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    Originally Posted by BEVS View Post
    I'm not saying anything. I'm simply chatting with you about your occupation and your work experience etc.

    What I am showing you is this




    Is this you ? Only you know. I can't see that for myself.

    Can you prove your work experience. If it was via a brewery then I know for a fact that you would have undergone training and placement first. Did you do that ?

    Did these pubs include meals? Most do.
    Sorry didn't mean to sound like that. I was placed in the pubs by the brewery yes. I had training, but no qualifications to say so.

    I did not do meals in the last pub I worked in. But we did hire an Chef in a previous pub
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    Hi I work in hospo and think the qualification is going to be a problem. Although they say experience can count instead in reality that is very much the exception. I have a guy here who ran a bar in UK with large brewery but has no formal qualifications and the only way he is being allowed to stay is to do a 3 year college course in NZ and work for us part time. This may just be because we are in Nelson but who knows. Not sure any of it is black and white but the formal qualification is def a big plus (made all the difference to me). Sorry I cannot be more helpful but each case is different and I am sure it does depend on where you're heading and the kind of job offer you can get. A helpful possible employer could maybe persuade immigration that your experience is invaluable to them and the experience gained in busy establishments in the UK far out weighs any formal qualification.
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