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Old Jul 11th 2011, 2:51 pm
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Hi there, I have just submitted my EOI today (11/07/11) I have according to the status 180 points. Will this automatically allow me residency and I see the pool is selected every two weeks. When is the next selection? After the pool is selected what happens next?
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The next pool draw is today as it happens. 13th July.

No. A pull from the EOI pool does not automatically allow you residency.

With 180 points your EOI will be automatically pulled from the EOI pool for preliminary checks of the information you have supplied online. If NZIS are happy with what they see, they will then send you what is called an Invitation To Apply. This is where you will prove the info you supplied on the EOI with hard copy evidence.

This will include evidence of relationship ; qualifications; work experience etc At this point you also submit the police checks and medicals.

NZIS will go through all this paperwork and if they are happy enough, they will then offer you a residents visa or perhaps a work to residence visa if you have no job offer.
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BEVS,

I have a question. May be you think it stupid

If I am not able to get job offer and I get at least Work to Residence Visa then NZ authority will allow me to stay 9 months, so far I remember.

If in case, till 9 months I even cannot manage job offer, then is it possible to appeal for extending the Work to Residence visa period to keep searching jobs?


Thanks and regards

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The next pool draw is today as it happens. 13th July.

No. A pull from the EOI pool does not automatically allow you residency.

With 180 points your EOI will be automatically pulled from the EOI pool for preliminary checks of the information you have supplied online. If NZIS are happy with what they see, they will then send you what is called an Invitation To Apply. This is where you will prove the info you supplied on the EOI with hard copy evidence.

This will include evidence of relationship ; qualifications; work experience etc At this point you also submit the police checks and medicals.

NZIS will go through all this paperwork and if they are happy enough, they will then offer you a residents visa or perhaps a work to residence visa if you have no job offer.
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BEVS,

I have a question. May be you think it stupid

If I am not able to get job offer and I get at least Work to Residence Visa then NZ authority will allow me to stay 9 months, so far I remember.

If in case, till 9 months I even cannot manage job offer, then is it possible to appeal for extending the Work to Residence visa period to keep searching jobs?


Thanks and regards

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How could you score 180? if I havent done my points calculation erroneously then mine is 110. I got my Bachelors and masters in IT. I got work experience of 6+ yrs in IT.
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How could you score 180? if I havent done my points calculation erroneously then mine is 110. I got my Bachelors and masters in IT. I got work experience of 6+ yrs in IT.
Jnathan,

Can you mention the steps how you calculate your points, so that we can be clear of you and give you idea about your total points.

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Jnathan,

Can you mention the steps how you calculate your points, so that we can be clear of you and give you idea about your total points.

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Ok Shooterpalace,

This is how I have calculated my points.



as I said: I am/I got

Age 28
Bachelors: Computer Science
Masters : Computer Information Systems
No Education in NZ
IELTS : 6.5 ( combined in GT)
Spouse: None.
work Experience in different fields of IT: 6 yrs.

This is how I have selected the points for me:

Skilled Employment

1. Not living/Never lived in NZ, So the selection is NO.
2. Not living/Never lived in NZ, So the selection is NO.
3. No Job offer. Selection is NO.
4. (i) My Current work in my country is listed in NZ's Future growth areas. I have worked in different fields of Information Technology for the past 6 yrs in my home country. Selection should be YES or NO?

My confusion : Here, Has NZ Immigration asked for work experience/current work in this category in NZ or its fine if they were/are being performed in my home/another country.

4. (ii) All my previous and current jobs in my 'home country' are listed in the Long Term Skill Shortage List (LTSSL). [COLOR="rgb(160, 82, 45)"]Selection should be YES or NO?[/COLOR]

My confusion: Here, Has NZ Immigration asked for work experience/current work in this category in NZ or its fine if they were/are being performed in my home/another country.

5. Not Applicable as I am not living/never lived in NZ. Selection is NO.

Qualifications

1. Recognized qualification? (level 7 or 8): I got Masters, so Points are 55 in Level 9.
My Confusion: How to know/determine if my Masters degree is recognized or not? Should I apply for EOI and wait for the authority to ask me for assessment/recognition? Please clarify.

2. Do you have a recognised qualification? (level 3,4,5,6) -----What does it mean? I had my exams like this: High School Degree (12th class), Bachelors of 4 yrs in an University, 2 yrs Masters Degree. [COLOR="rgb(160, 82, 45)"]SELECTION: YES ( still Confused)[/COLOR]

3. Did you begin your study for level 3, 4, 5 or 6 recognised qualification on or before 24 July 2011?
What does it mean? [COLOR="rgb(160, 82, 45)"]What should I select? [/COLOR]

4. Do you have a recognised qualification? (level 3,4,5,6) -- Not sure what to select. Please suggest.

5. Do you have a bachelor’s degree gained in New Zealand following at least two years of full time study? Selection is NO.

6. NO
7. NO
8. (i) YES - but do they mean qualifications achieved in NZ or applicant's home country??
(ii) YES - but do they mean qualifications achieved in NZ or applicant's home country??
9. NO
10. NO

Relevant Work Experience

1. Number of years of relevant work experience (anywhere): 6 yrs.
2. Number of years of relevant work experience in New Zealand : NONE ( as I have never lived in NZ Before)
3. Number of years work experience in any one of New Zealand's:
(i) identified future growth areas ? : do they mean the work experience in New Zealand or anywhere in the world? Remember I have worked in the field of Information and Communication Technology and of course the future growth area has these fields, biotechnology, information communications technology, and creative industries. SELECTION: 6 yrs ( still confused)

(ii) areas of absolute skills shortage ?
These are listed on the Long Term Skill Shortage List (LTSSL). I have worked at least 3 of the occupations listed in Long Term Skill Shortage List (INZ 1093) PDF. but still in dilemma, have they asked for NZ's experience or experience outside NZ? Selection: 6 yrs ( still confused)

4. Was the work experience gained in a comparable labour market or an area of absolute skills shortage?
: Not in Labor Market but in an area of absolute skill shortage list outside NZ. So my SELECTION is: YES

Age : 20-29 yrs

Other Family : NONE

Partner : NONE



Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks for reading this long message.

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Ok Shooterpalace,

4. (i) My Current work in my country is listed in NZ's Future growth areas. I have worked in different fields of Information Technology for the past 6 yrs in my home country. Selection should be YES or NO?

4. (ii) All my previous and current jobs in my 'home country' are listed in the Long Term Skill Shortage List (LTSSL). [COLOR="rgb(160, 82, 45)"]Selection should be YES or NO?[/COLOR]
What are the different fields of IT? And What are your designations in your past and present jobs? Do you know, those designations match exactly your job responsibilities?


1. Recognized qualification? (level 7 or 8): I got Masters, so Points are 55 in Level 9.
My Confusion: How to know/determine if my Masters degree is recognized or not? Should I apply for EOI and wait for the authority to ask me for assessment/recognition? Please clarify.
From which university you studied in B.Sc. Computer Science and Masters in Computer Information Systems and under which country?

(There are some countries listed in the immigration site where it is mentioned that some university degrees are exempted from NZQA qualification Assessment (PAR/IQA) and awarded from certain year. So, you can take advantage from that if your B.Sc. Degree fall under this condition.)
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What are the different fields of IT? And What are your designations in your past and present jobs? Do you know, those designations match exactly your job responsibilities?




From which university you studied in B.Sc. Computer Science and Masters in Computer Information Systems and under which country?

(There are some countries listed in the immigration site where it is mentioned that some university degrees are exempted from NZQA qualification Assessment (PAR/IQA) and awarded from certain year. So, you can take advantage from that if your B.Sc. Degree fall under this condition.)
From Past

Job-1
========================

Combination of

Systems Administrator (NZ Occupation code #262113),
Network Administrator (263112),
Network Analyst (263113)

Job- 2

IT/Systems Analyst (NZ Occupation code 261112)


Job -3 (current)

IT Specialist Manager nec
(IT Management & IT Project
Management staff) (139999)

all of the above posts currently belong to Long term skills shortage list (LTSSL)
Yes, as these are listed in LTSSL, they clearly match(ed) exactly with my job responsibilities that I am performing/have performed.


I did my Bachelors and Masters from Macedonia and it does not fall in the LIST OF QUALIFICATIONS EXEMPT FROM ASSESSMENT.

shooterspalace,

Can we connect in IM? you got google talk?

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No one to reply?
Remember the time difference over there mate, your two posts were at 10pm and 5am in the morning. I'm sure someone will help you when they are all up and about
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Originally Posted by jnathan View Post
No one to reply?
Whoever wish to assist you, will take little more time to answer your queries. See, I posted 3 new Threads in this forum, but nobody still either getting time or finding answer to reply me.

I am now sharing you my knowledge and ideas which will help you to think about your total points further. What I am mentioning you is not the final. The blue lines are my comments.



This is how I have calculated my points.

as I said: I am/I got

Age 28
Bachelors: Computer Science
Masters : Computer Information Systems
No Education in NZ
IELTS : 6.5 ( combined in GT)
Spouse: None.
work Experience in different fields of IT: 6 yrs.

This is how I have selected the points for me:

Skilled Employment

1. Not living/Never lived in NZ, So the selection is NO.
2. Not living/Never lived in NZ, So the selection is NO.
3. No Job offer. Selection is NO.
4. (i) My Current work in my country is listed in NZ's Future growth areas. I have worked in different fields of Information Technology for the past 6 yrs in my home country. Selection should be YES or NO?

So far I understand, points for Identified Future Growth areas is based on current skill Employment of offer of Skill Employment in New Zealand.
See the link below and also the sub-links inside it.

http://www.immigration.govt.nz/opsmanual/30579.htm


My confusion : Here, Has NZ Immigration asked for work experience/current work in this category in NZ or its fine if they were/are being performed in my home/another country.

A complete assessment on Work Experience and Qualification will be done in IQA stage by NZQA. If you do not have work experience in NZ, then immigration or NZQA will judge you work experience either by your Recognized Qualification and LTSSL category or by Multi-national Company which is under NZ comparable Labour Market (This is my idea, not sure. I already posted a relevant thread in this forum) See the URL below and also the sub-links inside.
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/opsmanual/30570.htm


4. (ii) All my previous and current jobs in my 'home country' are listed in the Long Term Skill Shortage List (LTSSL). [COLOR="rgb(160, 82, 45)"]Selection should be YES or NO?[/color]

My confusion: Here, Has NZ Immigration asked for work experience/current work in this category in NZ or its fine if they were/are being performed in my home/another country.

For answer of 4(ii), please see the immediate comment (Above).

5. Not Applicable as I am not living/never lived in NZ. Selection is NO.

Qualifications

1. Recognized qualification? (level 7 or 8): I got Masters, so Points are 55 in Level 9.
My Confusion: How to know/determine if my Masters degree is recognized or not? Should I apply for EOI and wait for the authority to ask me for assessment/recognition? Please clarify.

I am not sure about the normal points and bonus points system how you will be awarded for Masters in Computer Information Systems and B.Sc. in Computer Science jointly. But If your only B.Sc. degree is assessed in PAR by NZQA and the points outcome may be 50 and NZQF level at 7, then you may claim for bonus points for Recognized Qualification in LTSSL occupation in EOI if you have also relevant 3 years of work experience. Furthermore, If EOI is selected and received ITA, in the meantime or after ITA you can launch IQA application to NZQA for full assessment on Qualification and Work Experience to be recongnized and claim total points finally.

See the URL Below.
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/opsmanual/40518.htm
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/opsmanual/30595.htm
LTSSL URL: http://www.immigration.govt.nz/opsmanual/41441.htm
NZQA website: http://www.nzqa.govt.nz/qualificatio...ualifications/


2. Do you have a recognised qualification? (level 3,4,5,6) -----What does it mean? I had my exams like this: High School Degree (12th class), Bachelors of 4 yrs in an University, 2 yrs Masters Degree. [COLOR="rgb(160, 82, 45)"]SELECTION: YES ( still Confused)[/color]

For answer 2, see the immediate comments and links. If your qualification is recongnized by NZQA under level 6, you may not claim bonus points under LTSSL category.

3. Did you begin your study for level 3, 4, 5 or 6 recognised qualification on or before 24 July 2011?
What does it mean? [COLOR="rgb(160, 82, 45)"]What should I select? [/color]

No Idea about 3

4. Do you have a recognised qualification? (level 3,4,5,6) -- Not sure what to select. Please suggest.

See above comments for 4.

5. Do you have a bachelor’s degree gained in New Zealand following at least two years of full time study? Selection is NO.

6. NO
7. NO
8. (i) YES - but do they mean qualifications achieved in NZ or applicant's home country??
(ii) YES - but do they mean qualifications achieved in NZ or applicant's home country??
9. NO
10. NO

For 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 , I am not clear. If your qualification is not gained under New Zealand, you can not answer Yes.

Relevant Work Experience

1. Number of years of relevant work experience (anywhere): 6 yrs.
2. Number of years of relevant work experience in New Zealand : NONE ( as I have never lived in NZ Before)
3. Number of years work experience in any one of New Zealand's:
(i) identified future growth areas ? : do they mean the work experience in New Zealand or anywhere in the world? Remember I have worked in the field of Information and Communication Technology and of course the future growth area has these fields, biotechnology, information communications technology, and creative industries. SELECTION: 6 yrs ( still confused)

Answer 3, It is related to NZ work experience so far my understanding. Please read once again my first comment and also URL.

(ii) areas of absolute skills shortage ?
These are listed on the Long Term Skill Shortage List (LTSSL). I have worked at least 3 of the occupations listed in Long Term Skill Shortage List (INZ 1093) PDF. but still in dilemma, have they asked for NZ's experience or experience outside NZ? Selection: 6 yrs ( still confused)

For answer (ii), Though you have worked 3 of the occupations which match in the LTSSL list, but you may choose one from the list which mostly matches with your all 3 occupations and respective job responsibilities. As per my understanding, immigration also welcomes outsider of NZ.

4. Was the work experience gained in a comparable labour market or an area of absolute skills shortage?

For answer 4, please read the above comments once again.

: Not in Labor Market but in an area of absolute skill shortage list outside NZ. So my SELECTION is: YES

Age : 20-29 yrs

Other Family : NONE

Partner : NONE
Now, first read and try to find where your points are. Then we will discuss about your total points.

I am also new comer for NZ arena like you but still gathering information. If my comments and ideas are wrong here, any senior can correct me.

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Originally Posted by jnathan View Post
let us talk on IM. many confusions will be cleared I guess.
Thanks for your reply.
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Confusion
4(i)


your link : http://www.immigration.govt.nz/opsmanual/30579.htm

it says: SM13.10 Work experience in an identified future growth area

Recognised work experience in an identified future growth area qualifies for points if:

the principal applicant has points for current skilled employment or an offer of skilled employment in an identified future growth area (see SM8.10); and
the experience is relevant to that employment (see SM7.10.10).
SM13.10.1 Evidence
Recognised work experience in an identified future growth area only qualifies for bonus points if the principal applicant provides evidence that satisfies an immigration officer that their work experience meets the requirements of SM13.10 above.

I DON'T SEE IT HAS TO BE IN NZ. CAN YOU FIND IT THAT, Recognised work experience in an identified future growth area has to be in NZ? my point would go further higher if I could get yes in this factor
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Originally Posted by jnathan View Post
Thanks for your reply.
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Confusion
4(i)


your link : http://www.immigration.govt.nz/opsmanual/30579.htm

it says: SM13.10 Work experience in an identified future growth area

Recognised work experience in an identified future growth area qualifies for points if:

the principal applicant has points for current skilled employment or an offer of skilled employment in an identified future growth area (see SM8.10); and
the experience is relevant to that employment (see SM7.10.10).
SM13.10.1 Evidence
Recognised work experience in an identified future growth area only qualifies for bonus points if the principal applicant provides evidence that satisfies an immigration officer that their work experience meets the requirements of SM13.10 above.

I DON'T SEE IT HAS TO BE IN NZ. CAN YOU FIND IT THAT, Recognised work experience in an identified future growth area has to be in NZ? my point would go further higher if I could get yes in this factor
Now, I will request to the seniors/experts to share their real experiences who already claimed points based on SM13.10 Work experience in an identified future growth area.

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BEVS,

I have a question. May be you think it stupid

If I am not able to get job offer and I get at least Work to Residence Visa then NZ authority will allow me to stay 9 months, so far I remember.

If in case, till 9 months I even cannot manage job offer, then is it possible to appeal for extending the Work to Residence visa period to keep searching jobs?


Thanks and regards

Shooter
Sorry for the delay in a reply. I have been puzzling about this one a little as I thought there was a way to actually extend but I now can't find that on the NZIS website so perhaps policy changed.

What I have seen is a relatively new 'Interim Visa'. which came into effect last February 2011.

The thing with the WTR under SMC is that it is essentially a job search visa. It's where NZIS want proof of the ability to settle and maintain oneself & that means having an income. I would think that if a job offer couldn't be found within the 9 months of arriving , then an extension would not be on the cars ( that is only my guess though ). However, if a firm job offer was on the horizon & proof cold be shown via the employer and a certain employment contract , then I could see a case for an interim visa. The same if one had started a job towards the end of the 9 month period but had not completed 3 monthsh of working. There could be a case for an interim visa to allow time for a temporary work permit to be put into place.
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