an irish googly

Hi Guys

After my last post I got plenty of advice from memebers saying I should apply for my visa- get it and then locate employment.

I have been in contact with a couple of agencies who are saying they will manage the whole process of filling out EOI forms, get a job offer (they are confident they will get one for me- cant guarentee it but 100% confident) etc

Their fee is over 4000eur

They say without a job offer my points is 105 and wont be selected at any stage (it will just expire)

With a job offer my points would be 165!

I am quite happy to fill out my EOI wait for it to be selected ( I can be patient!) and then set about finding a job.

The threshold is 100 points- I have an IT degree (worth 50 points) I have 18 years of senior management experience in retail organisations (which anyone I have spoken to in NZ say they are crying out for)

At 105 will my EOI ever be selected or will it just sit there beaten by others with higher points?

Has anyone ever been selected at this level?

lardyl

The points threshold for selection from the pool varies and these variations are published on the NZ Immigration website - should be easy to find although the site is a bit of a mare to navigate.
As far as retail jobs go then you could look at this thread and the OP there...
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=464465
Plenty of expansion at Albany Westfield Mall - Trinny and Susanah are here next week or something - I might go and do a streak........erm, maybe not as my mate did the fire engineering design on the mall and he would hear about it......

happynz

Bloody hell! That's a lot of money, nearly NZD$8000 for a few phone calls and several hours input on the computer.

They are selling their services, like. They're trying to convince you that they have the key and will unlock the immigration genie if you hand over 4000 Euros.

Then get a job!

You really need that job to improve your chances of getting selected. 105 points is not impressive.

Without a job offer your EOI likely will gather dust. Who knows though? Maybe you'll make the selection.

Nobody that I know of, but that isn't to say that it hasn't happened. Good question. Has anyone been selected with 105 points and no job offer?

lardyl

when NZIS want more people in and there are fewer applicants the points cut off goes down - as I recall (senior moment nothwithstanding) back in 2004/5 when we started looking selection from pool happened at 100 points - it's all there on the website somwehere though you might find it hard to locate

Spacecake799

Hi,
We got selected with 100 points after a couple of months waiting. Every now and again immigration pick some of the people without job offers if numbers are low.
I would suggest filling the EOI in yourself and submitting it, then look at agencies like www.seek.co.nz here for a job.
If your jobs that much in demand i'm sure you could secure a job from there and add it to your EOI to bump up the points.

Good luck
Carole

lardyl

From the NZIS site, Skilled Migrant section:

lardyl

From the latest detailed report I can find - if you have work experience in an area of absolute skill shortage then you could be OK without a job offer, but an offer will speed everything up, especially the time from EOI submission to the grant of the Visa, Good Luck

Knightm

I think you should have more than 105....can you recheck yr numbers?

BEVS

I think that chatting with the Wellies It group is a good starter for ten.

Maz

Hiya googly,

You need to ask yourself if you were an overseas employer, would you employ someone you'd never met, through an agency?...

I wouldn't, either.

Good starting point. I don't have an IT degree, lost me loadsa points. Do you have experience in IT that you can prove? What are your points when do you the check on the NZIS website? You can register for free and do everything but submit the actual EOI, without shelling out any money. Highly recommended you do it.

Absolutely definitely!

lardyl

many employers looking for professionals will offer jobs on the basis of telephone interviews alone. Did so for MrsL and would have done for me with the job I was interested in before we came. I think that also goes for senior retail posts and lots of the professions where the company needs overseas workers to fill jobs that they can't recruit to easily. MrsL's employer was prepared to do summersaults to get her over on the basis of telephone references and a telephone interview, changing the terms of the offer (at our request) twice before we arrived - they almost bit her arm off, I'd say............

Knightm

yes sometimes tel interviews and reference checks are the order of the day for roles they are finding difficult to fill

Maz

Most definitely. It's how I managed to land my job. However, I wouldn't (personally) hire someone when I'd only known *of* them through an agency, KWIM?

lardyl

yeah, true enough, recruitment agencies have their good and bad sides - may last job in UK was landed via an agency (the partners did not want to go through the rigmorole), some very senior appointments here are also done that way - one at ESR that someone in the forensic community advised me to apply for last week was one such........
but then the employer would get to meet you

kgreen07

just to let you know we got selected from the pool with 105 points and no job offer after 15 days so dont listen to anyone who tells you its not possible!! Good luck
katherine