Emplyed by Uk company - can I live in NZ
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Emplyed by Uk company - can I live in NZ
HI,
I've been trying to find something out but failed. Just wondering if any of you know the answer.
I work a deskjob in the UK (from home) for which I can live pretty much anywhere, on the agreement of my boss.
So my question is this: Can I apply to NZ to move there whilst keeping my current job paid by a UK firm (taxes will be paid in NZ - found that info out at least) - I will have a job and pay taxes - will it matter that I am employed by a UK firm? Will I be able to move to NZ?
If it won't matter does anyone know which visa you'd need to apply for.
Thank you so much in advance for your help - have failed miserably to find answer elsewhere.
I've been trying to find something out but failed. Just wondering if any of you know the answer.
I work a deskjob in the UK (from home) for which I can live pretty much anywhere, on the agreement of my boss.
So my question is this: Can I apply to NZ to move there whilst keeping my current job paid by a UK firm (taxes will be paid in NZ - found that info out at least) - I will have a job and pay taxes - will it matter that I am employed by a UK firm? Will I be able to move to NZ?
If it won't matter does anyone know which visa you'd need to apply for.
Thank you so much in advance for your help - have failed miserably to find answer elsewhere.
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Re: Emplyed by Uk company - can I live in NZ
unless you have enough points on the expression of inerest (EOI), you have lots of money to invest or have a partner that is a kiwi and been in that relationship solidly for 12mths the only option I think would be a working holiday visa if you are under 30, and that one I am not that sure about. it may be best to call NZ immigration in London and ask them. Or go do the points calculator and see what points you get.
https://www.immigration.govt.nz/pointsindicator/ please be aware that you can only claim some points if you have a job offer. see post 1 in this thread and take not of the text in blue http://britishexpats.com/forum/immig...d-pool-810756/
https://www.immigration.govt.nz/pointsindicator/ please be aware that you can only claim some points if you have a job offer. see post 1 in this thread and take not of the text in blue http://britishexpats.com/forum/immig...d-pool-810756/
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Re: Emplyed by Uk company - can I live in NZ
Puzzling one. Normally someone moving to work in NZ would be sponsored by their employer who would be an NZ firm (or the NZ arm of a multi-national).
I think you are asking if you could turn up in NZ and just live there because you were earning enough to support yourself from a UK job.
The aim for immigrants seems to be to contribute to NZ as a country through working for a NZ firm, inward investment, or coming to support your family (as in parents sponsored by children).
I don't think that just having an income is enough (unless it is pretty big).
Effectively your only contribution to NZ would be paying tax on your UK income.
You wouldn't be contributing to NZ business at all, by working for a local firm and helping them to grow and prosper.
From our point of view (retired) we have a guaranteed income but that is not enough to allow us to emigrate.
So from the information so far, probably not, sadly.
I do like the idea, though
I think you are asking if you could turn up in NZ and just live there because you were earning enough to support yourself from a UK job.
The aim for immigrants seems to be to contribute to NZ as a country through working for a NZ firm, inward investment, or coming to support your family (as in parents sponsored by children).
I don't think that just having an income is enough (unless it is pretty big).
Effectively your only contribution to NZ would be paying tax on your UK income.
You wouldn't be contributing to NZ business at all, by working for a local firm and helping them to grow and prosper.
From our point of view (retired) we have a guaranteed income but that is not enough to allow us to emigrate.
So from the information so far, probably not, sadly.
I do like the idea, though
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Re: Emplyed by Uk company - can I live in NZ
HI,
I've been trying to find something out but failed. Just wondering if any of you know the answer.
I work a deskjob in the UK (from home) for which I can live pretty much anywhere, on the agreement of my boss.
So my question is this: Can I apply to NZ to move there whilst keeping my current job paid by a UK firm (taxes will be paid in NZ - found that info out at least) - I will have a job and pay taxes - will it matter that I am employed by a UK firm? Will I be able to move to NZ?
If it won't matter does anyone know which visa you'd need to apply for.
Thank you so much in advance for your help - have failed miserably to find answer elsewhere.
I've been trying to find something out but failed. Just wondering if any of you know the answer.
I work a deskjob in the UK (from home) for which I can live pretty much anywhere, on the agreement of my boss.
So my question is this: Can I apply to NZ to move there whilst keeping my current job paid by a UK firm (taxes will be paid in NZ - found that info out at least) - I will have a job and pay taxes - will it matter that I am employed by a UK firm? Will I be able to move to NZ?
If it won't matter does anyone know which visa you'd need to apply for.
Thank you so much in advance for your help - have failed miserably to find answer elsewhere.
When considering allowing an immigrant into the country immigration expect that person to contribute to the long term prosperity of the country and the community where you live....I wouldn't expect just paying income tax on uk earnings would be enough...and what happens when you've been living in nz for 4 years and the double taxation rule expires...you may have to pay tax in both countries?
I'd say you'll have to look at a different type of visa like an entrepreneur visa or investor visa or something along those lines unless you have a route in via the family stream ?
Not really a straightforward case so I'd advise you to seek the services of a authorised advisor or immigration who can steer you in the right direction.
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Re: Emplyed by Uk company - can I live in NZ
When considering allowing an immigrant into the country immigration expect that person to contribute to the long term prosperity of the country and the community where you live....I wouldn't expect just paying income tax on uk earnings would be enough...and what happens when you've been living in nz for 4 years and the double taxation rule expires...you may have to pay tax in both countries?
I have never come across a double taxation treaty with an expiry date before. But in any case, if OP is carrying out the work whilst living in NZ there will be no liability to UK tax. Location of employer totally irrelevant.
Still I wouldn't do this anyway other than perhaps for the short term. It would be preferable to me to have income and expenses in the same currency and if I was moving to a new country I would want to properly join the workforce of that country, meet new people through work and integrate.
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Re: Emplyed by Uk company - can I live in NZ
Hmmm. The 4 year exemption is nothing to do with the double taxation treaty. If you meet certain circumstances you can claim exemption from NZ tax for 49 months, thereafter you must declare it. However, in the OPs case this will not apply. Here's extract from the NZ gov.
"Foreign income that is not tax-exempt
These types of foreign income are not tax exempt in New Zealand:
BUT , you can of course apply for the DTT as soon as you arrive in NZ using form DTT Individual. I believe, that like here in the Philippines, you must have been out of UK for a complete tax year in order to claim.I had to wait 18 months before applying, but did get back the UK tax I had overpaid.
"Foreign income that is not tax-exempt
These types of foreign income are not tax exempt in New Zealand:
- Employment income from overseas employment performed while living in New Zealand.
- Business income relating to services performed offshore.
BUT , you can of course apply for the DTT as soon as you arrive in NZ using form DTT Individual. I believe, that like here in the Philippines, you must have been out of UK for a complete tax year in order to claim.I had to wait 18 months before applying, but did get back the UK tax I had overpaid.
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Re: Emplyed by Uk company - can I live in NZ
Whoops! hit wrong button!
So in effect you'll pay tax in NZ on your UK earnings and when you file the DTT Individual form you'll be credited for any tax paid in UK.
So in effect you'll pay tax in NZ on your UK earnings and when you file the DTT Individual form you'll be credited for any tax paid in UK.
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Re: Emplyed by Uk company - can I live in NZ
The 4 year exemption is just that. An exemption. However ALL overseas investment and income from work or otherwise must be declared regardless. This includes pension funds.
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Re: Emplyed by Uk company - can I live in NZ
I work a deskjob in the UK (from home) for which I can live pretty much anywhere, on the agreement of my boss.
So my question is this: Can I apply to NZ to move there whilst keeping my current job paid by a UK firm (taxes will be paid in NZ - found that info out at least) - I will have a job and pay taxes - will it matter that I am employed by a UK firm? Will I be able to move to NZ?
So my question is this: Can I apply to NZ to move there whilst keeping my current job paid by a UK firm (taxes will be paid in NZ - found that info out at least) - I will have a job and pay taxes - will it matter that I am employed by a UK firm? Will I be able to move to NZ?
Are you looking to live in New Zealand long term please?
Is the business you work for relocating to New Zealand?