Divorced parents and sponsorship?
Mar 12th 2008, 3:12 pm
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Divorced parents and sponsorship?
Another posting on this forum has prompted me to ask...although I'm not sure I want to know the answer 
My situation:
We land in NZ in May but as far as my parents are concerned the clocks ticking and in three years their forms will be in....
Problem is that they are divorced (sadly not amicably) and I cannot get a straight answer from immigration as to what happens here if both want sponsoring. Immigration just keep sending me links to webpages that don't seem to address my problem
On top of that...what happens if Hubby's parents decide they want to follow out too?
How are we supposed to choose? Having family support is all well and good....untill you end up in this predicament
Tan
My situation:
We land in NZ in May but as far as my parents are concerned the clocks ticking and in three years their forms will be in....
Problem is that they are divorced (sadly not amicably) and I cannot get a straight answer from immigration as to what happens here if both want sponsoring. Immigration just keep sending me links to webpages that don't seem to address my problem
On top of that...what happens if Hubby's parents decide they want to follow out too?
How are we supposed to choose? Having family support is all well and good....untill you end up in this predicament
Tan
Mar 12th 2008, 10:04 pm
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Re: Divorced parents and sponsorship?
Another posting on this forum has prompted me to ask...although I'm not sure I want to know the answer
My situation:
We land in NZ in May but as far as my parents are concerned the clocks ticking and in three years their forms will be in....
Problem is that they are divorced (sadly not amicably) and I cannot get a straight answer from immigration as to what happens here if both want sponsoring. Immigration just keep sending me links to webpages that don't seem to address my problem
On top of that...what happens if Hubby's parents decide they want to follow out too?
How are we supposed to choose? Having family support is all well and good....untill you end up in this predicament
Tan
My situation:
We land in NZ in May but as far as my parents are concerned the clocks ticking and in three years their forms will be in....
Problem is that they are divorced (sadly not amicably) and I cannot get a straight answer from immigration as to what happens here if both want sponsoring. Immigration just keep sending me links to webpages that don't seem to address my problem
On top of that...what happens if Hubby's parents decide they want to follow out too?
How are we supposed to choose? Having family support is all well and good....untill you end up in this predicament
Tan
My experience dealing with them was a nightmare and found some of them to have an bad attitude.
Personally I would suggest you and discus with a local MP or dare I say , immigration consultant / specialist.
Or,
Go and see the immigration dept but try to set up an appointment with one of the managers or someone higher up the ladder.
In our experience I actually drove down to Hamilton NZIS offices and they were amazing by comparison.
Mind you, was an elderly English lady
Mar 12th 2008, 11:11 pm
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Re: Divorced parents and sponsorship?
Tan
my reading of the sponsorship form is that the number of people you can sponsor is only ever limited under the partners category, obviously to stop rorting of the system by people faking marriage or de facto relationships. Parents are less open to rort, and there seems to be no limit on the number of times you can sponsor a parent (except for the obvious fact that you can only have two parents - normally).
You do not seem to be required to declare whether you have previously sponsored a person (although you would expect they have that info on file). You need to provide proof that you have the minimum income (around $30k), but there is no info that they would look for a higher amount if you are either sponsoring more than one set of parents, or sponsoring parents who are not together. Having a higher income would obviously practically make the sponsorship look more sound, if ultimately you and hubby end up sponsoring 3 different applications (you dad, your mum, his parents), but once again I can't see anywhere that NZIS would look for more than the stated minimum income amount.
Hope this helps - its only my reading of the same public info you have, but sometimes having a new set of eyes on the case is helpful.
ps. in all of this I have assumed your parents meet the centre of gravity tests with regards to where any other siblings reside. This is usually the thing that catches people out, and can get complex when you have more than one sibling.
my reading of the sponsorship form is that the number of people you can sponsor is only ever limited under the partners category, obviously to stop rorting of the system by people faking marriage or de facto relationships. Parents are less open to rort, and there seems to be no limit on the number of times you can sponsor a parent (except for the obvious fact that you can only have two parents - normally).
You do not seem to be required to declare whether you have previously sponsored a person (although you would expect they have that info on file). You need to provide proof that you have the minimum income (around $30k), but there is no info that they would look for a higher amount if you are either sponsoring more than one set of parents, or sponsoring parents who are not together. Having a higher income would obviously practically make the sponsorship look more sound, if ultimately you and hubby end up sponsoring 3 different applications (you dad, your mum, his parents), but once again I can't see anywhere that NZIS would look for more than the stated minimum income amount.
Hope this helps - its only my reading of the same public info you have, but sometimes having a new set of eyes on the case is helpful.
ps. in all of this I have assumed your parents meet the centre of gravity tests with regards to where any other siblings reside. This is usually the thing that catches people out, and can get complex when you have more than one sibling.
Last edited by southerner; Mar 12th 2008 at 11:12 pm. Reason: sp
Mar 13th 2008, 5:30 am
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Re: Divorced parents and sponsorship?
ps. in all of this I have assumed your parents meet the centre of gravity tests with regards to where any other siblings reside. This is usually the thing that catches people out, and can get complex when you have more than one sibling.
Hubby has one brother who lives in the UK.
Thank you...why immigration can't write a simple response like that is beyond me
Mar 13th 2008, 6:03 am
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Re: Divorced parents and sponsorship?
Special Visitor Categories
Multiple entry visitor’s visa for parents and grandparents of New Zealand citizens/residents
If you have family members in New Zealand and you wish to visit them, you may apply for a visitor’s visa under normal visitor policy to allow you to travel to New Zealand, or you may travel to New Zealand visa-free if you are a ‘visa waiver visitor’.
However, if you are the parent or grandparent of a New Zealand citizen or resident you may like to have the flexibility of a multiple entry visa, to allow you to visit your child or grandchild several times over a three-year period. To do this, you may apply for a visitor’s visa under the parent and grandparent multiple entry visitor’s visa policy.
To be eligible for a visa under this policy, you must apply from outside New Zealand, and you will need to complete full medicals and meet normal character requirements (you may include your partner in the application but not your children). Your New Zealand sponsor* will need to complete the Sponsorship Form for Visiting New Zealand (NZIS 1025) PDF and must guarantee to meet the cost of your maintenance, accommodation, repatriation (if necessary) and healthcare costs (if required).
If the application is approved you will be issued a three-year multiple entry visitor’s visa, authorising a permit for a visit of six months from your date of arrival. You will not be able to extend the permit, however you will be able to enter and leave New Zealand during the validity of your visa, as long as you do not remain in New Zealand for more that 18 months during the validity of the visa.
If you have previously been issued a visa under this policy and your sponsor was not in New Zealand during the period(s) of your visit(s) to New Zealand; or you exceeded the 18-month maximum stay on your previous visa, you will not normally be eligible for a subsequent multiple entry visitor’s visa under this policy.
*Notes:
· The sponsor must be your child or grandchild aged 17 years or older, or the New Zealand parent of your child or grandchild.
· Evidence of the family relationship(s) must be provided.
· The sponsor may sponsor only one person or one family unit (principal applicant and their partner) at one time.
For more information, see our FAQs.
Can a New Zealand child or grandchild sponsor more than one application under this policy at the same time?
No. Only one person, and his or her partner, can be sponsored at any one time by an individual sponsor.
Multiple entry visitor’s visa for parents and grandparents of New Zealand citizens/residents
If you have family members in New Zealand and you wish to visit them, you may apply for a visitor’s visa under normal visitor policy to allow you to travel to New Zealand, or you may travel to New Zealand visa-free if you are a ‘visa waiver visitor’.
However, if you are the parent or grandparent of a New Zealand citizen or resident you may like to have the flexibility of a multiple entry visa, to allow you to visit your child or grandchild several times over a three-year period. To do this, you may apply for a visitor’s visa under the parent and grandparent multiple entry visitor’s visa policy.
To be eligible for a visa under this policy, you must apply from outside New Zealand, and you will need to complete full medicals and meet normal character requirements (you may include your partner in the application but not your children). Your New Zealand sponsor* will need to complete the Sponsorship Form for Visiting New Zealand (NZIS 1025) PDF and must guarantee to meet the cost of your maintenance, accommodation, repatriation (if necessary) and healthcare costs (if required).
If the application is approved you will be issued a three-year multiple entry visitor’s visa, authorising a permit for a visit of six months from your date of arrival. You will not be able to extend the permit, however you will be able to enter and leave New Zealand during the validity of your visa, as long as you do not remain in New Zealand for more that 18 months during the validity of the visa.
If you have previously been issued a visa under this policy and your sponsor was not in New Zealand during the period(s) of your visit(s) to New Zealand; or you exceeded the 18-month maximum stay on your previous visa, you will not normally be eligible for a subsequent multiple entry visitor’s visa under this policy.
*Notes:
· The sponsor must be your child or grandchild aged 17 years or older, or the New Zealand parent of your child or grandchild.
· Evidence of the family relationship(s) must be provided.
· The sponsor may sponsor only one person or one family unit (principal applicant and their partner) at one time.
For more information, see our FAQs.
Can a New Zealand child or grandchild sponsor more than one application under this policy at the same time?
No. Only one person, and his or her partner, can be sponsored at any one time by an individual sponsor.
Mar 14th 2008, 1:54 am
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Re: Divorced parents and sponsorship?
as a sidenote - I am not aware that many people from the UK use the sponsored mulit-visit visa, as a normal visitor visa seems to achieve much the same outcome (can visit for 6 months in any 12).
Mar 14th 2008, 6:25 am
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Re: Divorced parents and sponsorship?
as a sidenote - I am not aware that many people from the UK use the sponsored mulit-visit visa, as a normal visitor visa seems to achieve much the same outcome (can visit for 6 months in any 12).
Re: the rest of your logic - that makes sense too. Thanks
