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elasmo1 Aug 4th 2011 5:35 pm

definition of "relevant work experience" on EOI
 
Please excuse me if this question has been asked before but I think I need some clarification from the good people here.

My draft EOI relies somewhat heavily on "recognized work experience", I have over 10 years experience in my field but nearly half of this includes my studies for my PhD and BSc.

I would consider these years particularly relevant and pertinent to my area of expertize: Marine Biology. Indeed my doctorate was conducted at at professional marine institute with my degree at a national oceanography center.

However I am worried that an immigration officer will simply look at these years and "chalk" them down to studies and not employment. So what is the criteria they go on? Do you have to actually be paid to have this work experience? and if so wouldn't that exclude valuable volunteer experience, which is just as valuable as work experience (except without the money).

Any good advice on this would be much appreciated, thanks guys ;)

Paul

Persephone Aug 5th 2011 12:24 am

Re: definition of "relevant work experience" on EOI
 
Hmmmm interesting one, I've had a look at the NZIS website and couldn't find out anything to help you.
I would suspect that the time studying for your BSc will not count but the PhD, well possibly but I have a feeling that they may see it as study and not work. Something you need to contact NZIS about. Try emailing them first as this is much cheaper than phoning, or if you're near an office [London?] then go in and visit.
This is one that may depend on what your job is as well. I could not do my job until I had a degree so I could only count the years from when I actually started work as opposed to doing the job under supervision but you may be different.
Hopefully someone else will come along and help or if NZIS give you an answer then let us all know!

elasmo1 Aug 5th 2011 5:29 pm

Re: definition of "relevant work experience" on EOI
 
Hi Persephone,

Thanks for your reply to both my posts in this section. Yes it's not clear to how they have defined "recognized work experience". I would agree that my BSc would probably not count as I was sitting in classes most of the time. However my PhD was working in a world class marine institute conducting research that was the most essential and relevant to the type of career I would like to advance to in NZ, therefore I would say it is recognized work experience...

But I am no immigration officer. I think I will just submit my EOI online this weekend and see what happens. What have I got to lose anyway?

:thumbup:

4pommes Aug 6th 2011 7:06 pm

Re: definition of "relevant work experience" on EOI
 
The only thing that I can find is that for work to be counted in full it has to be over 30 hours per week.....

elasmo1 Aug 6th 2011 9:55 pm

Re: definition of "relevant work experience" on EOI
 
4pommes,

It's not the number of hours that concerns me, it's the definition of "work experience"... do you have to be actually paid? you can still gain very good relevant experience from volunteer work...

My PhD was 6 years at a professional marine institute, personally I think that is very pertinent to work experience

Paul

Jan n Neil Aug 7th 2011 5:27 am

Re: definition of "relevant work experience" on EOI
 

Originally Posted by elasmo1 (Post 9542069)
4pommes,

It's not the number of hours that concerns me, it's the definition of "work experience"... do you have to be actually paid? you can still gain very good relevant experience from volunteer work...

My PhD was 6 years at a professional marine institute, personally I think that is very pertinent to work experience

Paul

If you took 6 years to do your PhD was that part time? Were you working/employed by the marine institute while you were registered for your studies? I am assuming that your PhD was awarded by a University not the marine institute? If so surely this is "experience" although, yes, it does have to be over 30 hours a week.

Luckybird Aug 7th 2011 10:06 am

Re: definition of "relevant work experience" on EOI
 
Hi elasmo1,

For my EOI (2010) I did include detailed examples of Voluntary work experience as well as well as my study times as I thought the more examples the better to show my experience......I also thought it would look good doing stuff without getting paid for it!!! :sneaky:

Just take care to show that you can support what you have done with evidence for example references/character references ;)

Remember you have to sell yourself on paper and the only way to do that is to show lots of substansiated examples - good luck :fingerscrossed: :)

elasmo1 Aug 7th 2011 4:33 pm

Re: definition of "relevant work experience" on EOI
 
thanks for those comments guys. My PhD took longer than expected and it was definitely over 30 hours a week, and was awarded by my university.

I can back up all the examples of work experience I have put down on the EOI with addresses and websites and numbers so hopefully that shouldn't be a problem!

:rolleyes:


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