Am I being unrealistic? - teacher - which visa and how
Jul 4th 2012, 5:28 pm
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Re: Am I being unrealistic?
First . Welcome to BE. As you have read , folk around here are very helpful indeedy.
I have tweaked your title a wee bit to better reflect your questions.
So. Onto your quest to live and work in NZ. I calculate you may have around 105 points at best
Age
Degree
10 yrs work exp.
That is without a job offer.
Teachers are no longer in shortage here . Many homegrown teachers are finding it difficult to find work, even supply work, so you may well need to think about that one.
As Ellenarosemary pointed out, you may only claim points for one qualification. Further , you will need to be registered with the NZ teachers council.
A working holiday visa will not allow you to bring your child with you.
As you are not in a permanent steady relationship with your child's father, he has no bearing on your own SMC application. It will be up to you to show that you can survive financially ,support your child and yourself in NZ & so, settle well.
I have tweaked your title a wee bit to better reflect your questions.So. Onto your quest to live and work in NZ. I calculate you may have around 105 points at best
Age
Degree
10 yrs work exp.
That is without a job offer.
Teachers are no longer in shortage here . Many homegrown teachers are finding it difficult to find work, even supply work, so you may well need to think about that one.
As Ellenarosemary pointed out, you may only claim points for one qualification. Further , you will need to be registered with the NZ teachers council.
A working holiday visa will not allow you to bring your child with you.
As you are not in a permanent steady relationship with your child's father, he has no bearing on your own SMC application. It will be up to you to show that you can survive financially ,support your child and yourself in NZ & so, settle well.
Thank you for your help!
Jul 4th 2012, 5:31 pm
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Re: Am I being unrealistic? - teacher
Ooh sorry everyone, yet another question! Would you recommend I use an agency to help me? Or is this something I can look into myself, just as quickly? I presume all the same hoops need to be jumped through and I know agents can be expensive?
However, I am willing to pay, if it increases my chances of getting over there? What are your experiences of agencies / going it alone?
However, I am willing to pay, if it increases my chances of getting over there? What are your experiences of agencies / going it alone?
Jul 4th 2012, 5:39 pm
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Re: Am I being unrealistic? - teacher
dont bother with an agency, we did and ours went bust and we lost all our money as did many others. The general opinion is that although they promise the earth with regard to job search, it is normally not forthcoming and that you can do all the work/paperwork etc yourself.
Jul 4th 2012, 5:58 pm
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dont bother with an agency, we did and ours went bust and we lost all our money as did many others. The general opinion is that although they promise the earth with regard to job search, it is normally not forthcoming and that you can do all the work/paperwork etc yourself.
thinking I'd be wanted in NZ and that I could head over there, and then find a job!! oops. But I can imagine, with all this super help and advice, I should be able to continue researching without an agent!
Jul 4th 2012, 9:20 pm
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Re: Am I being unrealistic? - teacher
You probably are more than capable! immigration agents are probably most useful if you have a complicated background situation that needs assistance, or if you are going to another country where immigration is much harder than NZ. Or - if you don't have the time or energy to spend in your immigration application :-)
The process is pretty straight forward for NZ once you start looking into it and the immigration website very helpful.
I think that although NZ is pretty insular in so far as it is affected by the global economy crisis, it has still been impacted by it, not to mention the economic affects of the ChCh earthquake.
The process is pretty straight forward for NZ once you start looking into it and the immigration website very helpful.
I think that although NZ is pretty insular in so far as it is affected by the global economy crisis, it has still been impacted by it, not to mention the economic affects of the ChCh earthquake.
Jul 4th 2012, 10:09 pm
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I can't see a WTR visa being of much more help unless you feel you need the extra points for NZ work exp.
If you are in NZ when you possibly find a full time permanent job offer, then you would uplift a temporary work permit.
Your first quest: Get your quals assessed by NZQA ------ oops. You already did that one
2nd move: Apply to the teachers council to become NZ registered. At that point you become more employable as you can't work as a teacher without being NZ registered.
Maybe get a feel for this occupation through the Edgazette
As this thread is more about possible visas etc, I am moving it to the Immy forum. .
If you are in NZ when you possibly find a full time permanent job offer, then you would uplift a temporary work permit.
Your first quest: Get your quals assessed by NZQA ------ oops. You already did that one
2nd move: Apply to the teachers council to become NZ registered. At that point you become more employable as you can't work as a teacher without being NZ registered.
Maybe get a feel for this occupation through the Edgazette
As this thread is more about possible visas etc, I am moving it to the Immy forum. .
Jul 5th 2012, 9:35 pm
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I can't see a WTR visa being of much more help unless you feel you need the extra points for NZ work exp.
If you are in NZ when you possibly find a full time permanent job offer, then you would uplift a temporary work permit.
Your first quest: Get your quals assessed by NZQA ------ oops. You already did that one
2nd move: Apply to the teachers council to become NZ registered. At that point you become more employable as you can't work as a teacher without being NZ registered.
Maybe get a feel for this occupation through the Edgazette
As this thread is more about possible visas etc, I am moving it to the Immy forum. .
If you are in NZ when you possibly find a full time permanent job offer, then you would uplift a temporary work permit.
Your first quest: Get your quals assessed by NZQA ------ oops. You already did that one
2nd move: Apply to the teachers council to become NZ registered. At that point you become more employable as you can't work as a teacher without being NZ registered.
Maybe get a feel for this occupation through the Edgazette
As this thread is more about possible visas etc, I am moving it to the Immy forum. .
It's great to have some adivse. It's not as easy as I first thought!
Jul 5th 2012, 10:06 pm
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Re: Am I being unrealistic? - teacher
This is so so helpful. Thank you. Yes, still waiting for IQA result. It's been in the 'Evaluation' process for, what seems like, ages!! OK, so next I need to register with Teacher's Council. Thank you. I will crack on with this ASAP. I have had a look and I notice I need a 'Police Clearance'. I guess I could do that now, while waiting for IQA result.
It's great to have some adivse. It's not as easy as I first thought!
It's great to have some adivse. It's not as easy as I first thought!
Jul 5th 2012, 10:07 pm
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Re: Am I being unrealistic? - teacher - which visa and how
Police check only lasts a certain amount of time so I would say don't waste your money until you know you may be able to come over on a visa, unless of course you need it for the teachers council
Jul 5th 2012, 10:19 pm
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Re: Am I being unrealistic? - teacher - which visa and how
OK thank you for this. I need it to register with the Teacher's Council but I'll wait until I recieve my evaluation from IQA first, before I go ahead. I have a squeaky clean past! I have had a lot of 'police clearance' checks because in UK, we require 1 for each establishment we are assoiated with - I have one from my school where I teach, and one from Social Services when I do fostering.
Do you think these will count or do I need one specifically for the purpose of immigration?
Do you think these will count or do I need one specifically for the purpose of immigration?
Jul 5th 2012, 10:24 pm
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Re: Am I being unrealistic? - teacher - which visa and how
You'll need a police certificate from
http://www.acro.police.uk/police_certificates.aspx
- i don't know if these are different to a police clearance.
If its the same, and is 6 months old or less when you go to use it, you can use one that you have had in the past - or rather, get another copy - it would need to be an original certificate.
http://www.acro.police.uk/police_certificates.aspx
- i don't know if these are different to a police clearance.
If its the same, and is 6 months old or less when you go to use it, you can use one that you have had in the past - or rather, get another copy - it would need to be an original certificate.
Jul 6th 2012, 7:46 pm
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Re: Am I being unrealistic? - teacher - which visa and how
Right having done most of this teachery stuff recently let's see if i can help.
Are you Primary or Secondary trained?
You need NZQA to assess your Degree and give you a Level. For example a Bachelor of Education Honours Degree comes out at a Level 7.
Then you send those details and many others including a Police Check from ACRO to get registered as a teacher for NZ.
You can't register as a Teacher without your level cert from NZQA.
Keep looking at www.edgazette.govt.nz/Vacancies to see what is around. It is unlikely you'll get a job offer whilst in UK.
It is a bit of a catch 22 situation to be honest, need a job, need to be in NZ, can't get Visa without job!
If you can afford to go out in November and have a holiday and a scout around all to the good. You didn't mention if you are in employment at the moment? I would hang on to your job if you are.
Feel free to PM me if you think I can help any more. Good luck!
Are you Primary or Secondary trained?
You need NZQA to assess your Degree and give you a Level. For example a Bachelor of Education Honours Degree comes out at a Level 7.
Then you send those details and many others including a Police Check from ACRO to get registered as a teacher for NZ.
You can't register as a Teacher without your level cert from NZQA.
Keep looking at www.edgazette.govt.nz/Vacancies to see what is around. It is unlikely you'll get a job offer whilst in UK.
It is a bit of a catch 22 situation to be honest, need a job, need to be in NZ, can't get Visa without job!
If you can afford to go out in November and have a holiday and a scout around all to the good. You didn't mention if you are in employment at the moment? I would hang on to your job if you are.
Feel free to PM me if you think I can help any more. Good luck!
Jul 6th 2012, 8:18 pm
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Re: Am I being unrealistic? - teacher - which visa and how
Sorry to sway slightly off topic,
Does anyone know if you can gain NZ registration immediatley after qualifying? I've just finished my PGDE (and have a BA) and part-time teaching experience in a college of further education, prior to my PGDE. In Scotland we would normally carry out a probationary year to gain full registration. I'm wondering if they will offer me full or only provisional registration in NZ.. Anyone know?
I don't expect to walk into a job, given the current climate and that many "homegrown" NZ teachers are out of work, hopefully I'll get some supply or failing that - I'll volunteer if I have to!
Thanks guys...
HeatherGirl
Does anyone know if you can gain NZ registration immediatley after qualifying? I've just finished my PGDE (and have a BA) and part-time teaching experience in a college of further education, prior to my PGDE. In Scotland we would normally carry out a probationary year to gain full registration. I'm wondering if they will offer me full or only provisional registration in NZ.. Anyone know?
I don't expect to walk into a job, given the current climate and that many "homegrown" NZ teachers are out of work, hopefully I'll get some supply or failing that - I'll volunteer if I have to!
Thanks guys...
HeatherGirl
Jul 6th 2012, 9:11 pm
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Re: Am I being unrealistic? - teacher - which visa and how
Sorry to sway slightly off topic,
Does anyone know if you can gain NZ registration immediatley after qualifying? I've just finished my PGDE (and have a BA) and part-time teaching experience in a college of further education, prior to my PGDE. In Scotland we would normally carry out a probationary year to gain full registration. I'm wondering if they will offer me full or only provisional registration in NZ.. Anyone know?
I don't expect to walk into a job, given the current climate and that many "homegrown" NZ teachers are out of work, hopefully I'll get some supply or failing that - I'll volunteer if I have to!
Thanks guys...
HeatherGirl
Does anyone know if you can gain NZ registration immediatley after qualifying? I've just finished my PGDE (and have a BA) and part-time teaching experience in a college of further education, prior to my PGDE. In Scotland we would normally carry out a probationary year to gain full registration. I'm wondering if they will offer me full or only provisional registration in NZ.. Anyone know?
I don't expect to walk into a job, given the current climate and that many "homegrown" NZ teachers are out of work, hopefully I'll get some supply or failing that - I'll volunteer if I have to!
Thanks guys...
HeatherGirl
Try asking Ministry of Education about your degree, I've always found them helpful.
