christmasoompa

Not sure what me being a mod has got to do with it, we are entitled to opinions as well you know! You may need to rethink the way you deal with this forum, as you seem very anti anybody that has opposing views to you.

That's the beauty of BE, anybody can express their opinions or give advise based on their circumstances, as long as they keep within site rules.

You think the OP could convince an employer to wait a couple of years for him, I personally don't. But it's really no big deal, it's just a difference of opinion, that's all.

wolstie

Why would HRSDC scrap it? It provides a route for you to go down should you find an employer willing to wait for you. That is the problem - the majority of employers won't wait. This is perhaps demonstrated by the fact that the number of posts on this forum in regards to LMOs by by far outweighs the number of posts in regards to AEOs.

PMM

Hi

It is unlikely to be scrapped. Although, in the review of FSW program, here are the comments from some of the overseas offices.

The case studies showed that the quality of applications with AEOs varies across the missions. For example, the Buffalo office reports that most AEOs are approved and points awarded (about 90%), while the New Delhi office estimated an acceptance rate of about 30%. New Delhi officers have been compiling information on small businesses that have made multiple job offers.

Examples of fraudulent AEO applications include job offers from non-existent employers, fictitious positions incompatible with the type of business or business operations, offers of convenience from friends or family members, and genuine offers with inflated job descriptions. There is also a concern in CVOAs that AEOs can be purchased and that clients are being lured to pay large fees to consultants for job offers that they believe await them in Canada.

In the interviews, CVOA staff (particularly those from Hong Kong and New Delhi) indicated that applicants often use AEOs to compensate for not receiving sufficient points under the language or education criteria (or more recently, as a means to by-pass Ministerial Instructions and the list of 38 occupations; the percentage of FSWs with AEOs has increased significantly since the introduction of Ministerial Instructions in 200833).

Visa officers in Hong Kong believe that the increase in AEO applications under IRPA has at least to some extent impacted the drop in the approval rates in recent years. For example, as outlined in Table 3‑4, the Hong Kong office has seen a significant increase in AEO applications, most notably in the last few years, and a significant drop in approval rates (from over 90% at the time of IRPA implementation to just over 40% in 2007, and to only 24% in 2008 -

On the other hand the following claims are made for AEOs based on the genuine AEOs

Source: IMDB.

IMDB data shows that average employment earnings for FSWs with an AEO are significantly higher than the earnings of those without one. As indicated in chart below, the average employment earnings of FSWs who received points for an AEO increases from $72,700 in the year after landing to $79,200 three years after landing, while the average employment earnings of FSWs who did not receive points for an AEO increases from $32,200 in the year after landing to $44,200 three years after landing.

Gillvdb

Just to set the record straight, I do have an open work permit as I aplied with the international experience canada program. As my letter of introduction is valid for a year I am trying to find an employer who is willing to apply for the aeo right before I come to canada and work for him or her. This waiting business is not really applicable to my case.
What I find about these forums is that people don't thoroughly read what was being asked in the first place and only read whats applicable to their situation so they can talk about, it whether its completely beside the question or not seems to be irrelevant.

My question was: can an aeo be an offer for a job (skill level 0 a or b) that is different from your work experience.
The only thing I tried to get out of this was facts, not a bunch of people's opinions on whether or not it will work out for me. I am mature and intelligent enough to figure that out for myself.

PMM

Hi

Well then I would have thought you read the OP06 Manual.

12.15. Arranged employment
Pursuant to R82, 10 points will be awarded if the applicant is in one of the situations described in the following table, and the applicant:
• has submitted the necessary documentation (note that in the third and fourth instances of arranged employment described below, Human Resources and Skills Development CanadaHRSDC will communicate the approved job offer to the visa office electronically);
• is able to perform and is likely to accept and carry out the employment. Officers may take into account the applicant’s education and training, background, and prior work experience to determine if the applicant meets this requirement. If they have any concerns about the applicant’s ability or likelihood to accept and carry out the employment, they will communicate
these to the applicant and provide the opportunity to respond.

christmasoompa

Please read the 'Newcomers to the Forum' sticky thread which will give you a guide to forum netiquette - I realise you are new but responding like that when people have tried to help and given their time to respond is just not the way to do things on here. If you want definite facts and advice, you'll have to pay an immigration lawyer for it. If you want something for free via a public forum, then you'll have to expect varying opinions and lower your expections of what you'll get in response to questions.

PMM has given the 'factual' answer you seemed to require, which you could easily have looked up yourself, and which I did point out in in my first response to you.

As for the wait time not applying for you, you didn't mention your WHV before - it's always helpful to give all relevant information when asking a question, as obviously this makes a big difference.

Gillvdb

This question has indeed been answered, so I am grateful. You may now, as a moderator remove this thread.
Cheers

christmasoompa

We don't remove threads just because a question has been answered - it may be of use to others in the future who find it via a search.