Why is it?

Old Jul 16th 2004, 5:02 am
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Stuart Brook
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Armin Meiwes wrote:

    > I've been still lurking and I can't figure out why some of the other experts
    > have no problem giving intellegent well thought out answers while Andrew
    > Miller intentionally gives bad answers to people because he isn't get paid.
    > What is even more amazing is that some of the resident dumbasses still think
    > he is a great guy.
    >
    >


I have not seen Andrew give truly bad answers. One of the biggest
problems with answering questions in a forum like this is you're working
with so little information. Some of us have time to speculate on what
joe blow is asking and answer based on some speculative assumptions. As
a professional, Andrew really cannot and should not do that, because
speculation is precisely what gets people in trouble, especially
professionals in ANY field. Whereas the non-professionals can speculate
until the cows come home ... we've got the time, and no professional
credentials to ruin.
 
Old Jul 16th 2004, 9:17 am
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John
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I know what Armin means, Andrew although pretty good has given some
responses a real Professional would.

Eg. "Sorry but CIC can find out anytime, and you have to live in fear for a
long time". Now, this could have been said in a different, less scary way.
Whereas the matter was not enormously serious
Probably had a bad hair day


"Armin Meiwes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Then why even answer if one does not have enough info to answer? Or just
    > for clarification ask for more. Case in point one of James Metcalfs
recent
    > answers about multiple entry visas.
    > Personally, based on my interpretation of CSIC definition of 'client', I
    > think any professional would be ill advised to answer at all in here.
    > "Stuart Brook" <[email protected] > wrote in
    > message
news:[email protected] able.rogers.com...
    > > Armin Meiwes wrote:
    > >
    > > > I've been still lurking and I can't figure out why some of the other
    > experts
    > > > have no problem giving intellegent well thought out answers while
Andrew
    > > > Miller intentionally gives bad answers to people because he isn't get
    > paid.
    > > > What is even more amazing is that some of the resident dumbasses still
    > think
    > > > he is a great guy.
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > > I have not seen Andrew give truly bad answers. One of the biggest
    > > problems with answering questions in a forum like this is you're working
    > > with so little information. Some of us have time to speculate on what
    > > joe blow is asking and answer based on some speculative assumptions. As
    > > a professional, Andrew really cannot and should not do that, because
    > > speculation is precisely what gets people in trouble, especially
    > > professionals in ANY field. Whereas the non-professionals can speculate
    > > until the cows come home ... we've got the time, and no professional
    > > credentials to ruin.
    > >
 
Old Jul 16th 2004, 1:13 pm
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Robert
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"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > I know what Armin means, Andrew although pretty good has given some
    > responses a real Professional would.
    > Eg. "Sorry but CIC can find out anytime, and you have to live in fear for
a
    > long time". Now, this could have been said in a different, less scary way.
    > Whereas the matter was not enormously serious
    > Probably had a bad hair day
But those people who know him appreciate the fact that he does not suck up
to people with a sugar coated answer. yes he is quite blunt but that's him
and the way he is.
I have no problems with an honest answer. and it has been said many times
that if you want a "yes man" he is not for you and you may be better paying
money to some consultant that will lie to you.

And to be quite honest I have not seen much in the way of reasonable advice
given by armin who seems to question Andrews answers to others (even when
the answer is supported by more than one person).

I would be more inclined to question armins attitude than any of the other
posters in here.
 
Old Jul 16th 2004, 4:41 pm
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Armin Meiwes
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I've been still lurking and I can't figure out why some of the other experts
have no problem giving intellegent well thought out answers while Andrew
Miller intentionally gives bad answers to people because he isn't get paid.
What is even more amazing is that some of the resident dumbasses still think
he is a great guy.
 
Old Jul 16th 2004, 4:48 pm
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Jim Jam Bonks
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in a recent article, John ([email protected]) said:
esponses a real Professional would.
    >
    > Eg. "Sorry but CIC can find out anytime, and you have to live in fear for a
    > long time". Now, this could have been said in a different, less scary way.
    > Whereas the matter was not enormously serious
    > Probably had a bad hair day

That is nothing but political correctness. If it had been said in a
'different, less scary way', the meaning would have been the same. If people
want spoon fed answers all buttered up to avoid any possible 'scary'
elements, they can pay someone to give them the answers they want in the
tone they want.

Internet newsgroups are not the place to get saccharine. Sorry.
--
I am not to be confused for that OTHER "Jim Jam Bonks" - you know, that
idiot who slams everyone with racist or otherwise insulting comments. I am
the GOOD Jim Jam Bonks, though of course it is only a matter of time before
someone starts trying to make ME look bad through fraudulent posts.
 
Old Jul 16th 2004, 5:40 pm
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Armin Meiwes
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Then why even answer if one does not have enough info to answer? Or just
for clarification ask for more. Case in point one of James Metcalfs recent
answers about multiple entry visas.

Personally, based on my interpretation of CSIC definition of 'client', I
think any professional would be ill advised to answer at all in here.


"Stuart Brook" <[email protected] > wrote in
message news:[email protected] able.rogers.com...
    > Armin Meiwes wrote:
    > > I've been still lurking and I can't figure out why some of the other
experts
    > > have no problem giving intellegent well thought out answers while Andrew
    > > Miller intentionally gives bad answers to people because he isn't get
paid.
    > > What is even more amazing is that some of the resident dumbasses still
think
    > > he is a great guy.
    > >
    > >
    > I have not seen Andrew give truly bad answers. One of the biggest
    > problems with answering questions in a forum like this is you're working
    > with so little information. Some of us have time to speculate on what
    > joe blow is asking and answer based on some speculative assumptions. As
    > a professional, Andrew really cannot and should not do that, because
    > speculation is precisely what gets people in trouble, especially
    > professionals in ANY field. Whereas the non-professionals can speculate
    > until the cows come home ... we've got the time, and no professional
    > credentials to ruin.
 
Old Jul 16th 2004, 6:35 pm
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Jim Jam Bonks
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in a recent article, John ([email protected]) said:

    > I meant the response ends there, no solution. Just Live in fear for long
    > time. thats it...nevermind.

Ultimately, it depends on the context. Sometimes that is the best and
only solution. Since you're quoting out of context, it's an unfair example.
For example, perhaps the person was talking about immigration fraud. In
that case, the quote you credit to Mr. Miller is entirely appropriate.

    > But whatever advice or opinion he has given is proven to be wrong in the
    > past (not for everyone).

Perhaps you could give some examples of where he has been proven to be
wrong. Let's make it easy for you, shall we? Quote just ten (in context)
responses from Mr. Miller in which he has been proven to be wrong. Perhaps
you could also provide the details that prove him to be wrong to support
your argument. If you can do that, I'll be the first to congratulate you.

--
I am not to be confused for that OTHER "Jim Jam Bonks" - you know, that
idiot who slams everyone with racist or otherwise insulting comments. I am
the GOOD Jim Jam Bonks, though of course it is only a matter of time before
someone starts trying to make ME look bad through fraudulent posts.
 
Old Jul 16th 2004, 6:53 pm
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John
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I meant the response ends there, no solution. Just Live in fear for long
time. thats it...nevermind.
But whatever advice or opinion he has given is proven to be wrong in the
past (not for everyone).
Well, this newsgroup is just for fun, not anything serious
"Jim Jam Bonks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BD1DFD25.32740%[email protected]...
    > in a recent article, John ([email protected]) said:
    > esponses a real Professional would.
    > >
    > > Eg. "Sorry but CIC can find out anytime, and you have to live in fear
for a
    > > long time". Now, this could have been said in a different, less scary
way.
    > > Whereas the matter was not enormously serious
    > > Probably had a bad hair day
    > That is nothing but political correctness. If it had been said in a
    > 'different, less scary way', the meaning would have been the same. If
people
    > want spoon fed answers all buttered up to avoid any possible 'scary'
    > elements, they can pay someone to give them the answers they want in the
    > tone they want.
    > Internet newsgroups are not the place to get saccharine. Sorry.
    > --
    > I am not to be confused for that OTHER "Jim Jam Bonks" - you know, that
    > idiot who slams everyone with racist or otherwise insulting comments. I am
    > the GOOD Jim Jam Bonks, though of course it is only a matter of time
before
    > someone starts trying to make ME look bad through fraudulent posts.
 
Old Jul 17th 2004, 2:06 am
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Abdul Kabowski
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Jim Jam Bonks wrote:

    > in a recent article, John ([email protected]) said:
    > > I meant the response ends there, no solution. Just Live in fear
for long
    > > time. thats it...nevermind.
    > Ultimately, it depends on the context. Sometimes that is the
best and
    > only solution. Since you're quoting out of context, it's an unfair
example.
    > For example, perhaps the person was talking about immigration
fraud. In
    > that case, the quote you credit to Mr. Miller is entirely
appropriate.
    > > But whatever advice or opinion he has given is proven to be wrong
in the
    > > past (not for everyone).
    > Perhaps you could give some examples of where he has been proven
to be
    > wrong. Let's make it easy for you, shall we? Quote just ten (in
context)
    > responses from Mr. Miller in which he has been proven to be wrong.
Perhaps
    > you could also provide the details that prove him to be wrong to
support
    > your argument. If you can do that, I'll be the first to
congratulate you.
    > --
    > I am not to be confused for that OTHER "Jim Jam Bonks" - you know,
that
    > idiot who slams everyone with racist or otherwise insulting
comments. I am
    > the GOOD Jim Jam Bonks, though of course it is only a matter of time
before
    > someone starts trying to make ME look bad through fraudulent posts.

Actually I have reposted many times(in context) of where Andrew has
given bad advice. You and the other fanboys just chose to ignore it.
What is really interesting, is in all of this debate going on for the
last 4 months, nobody has came forward, having completed the process,
saying Andrew has helped me get to Canada. I will make it easy for
you, find 10 such people. It should be easy considering the talent
and expertise that Andrew claims he has, he must have 100's of
successful clients.
 
Old Jul 17th 2004, 7:26 pm
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John
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Been visiting since a long time, I have not copy/pasted everyones case for
proof nor I would discuss mine.
And I am ONLY talking about Andrew, Jim (Metcalfe and Humphries) are much
better and professional.

Andrew doesn't know how to handle cleints, thus the free advices, coz I
don;t think he would have many clients.

And as you mentioned abt "seeking a pro who says YES all the time"..I have
taken seen them, refused to consult them and chose a profession. If I were
to rely on Andrew's advice, I would have never reached where I am today. He
is good, only in cases such as "how much time, what date, what forms".

"Jim Jam Bonks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BD1E16CF.32749%[email protected]...
    > in a recent article, John ([email protected]) said:
    > > I meant the response ends there, no solution. Just Live in fear for long
    > > time. thats it...nevermind.
    > Ultimately, it depends on the context. Sometimes that is the best and
    > only solution. Since you're quoting out of context, it's an unfair
example.
    > For example, perhaps the person was talking about immigration fraud. In
    > that case, the quote you credit to Mr. Miller is entirely appropriate.
    > > But whatever advice or opinion he has given is proven to be wrong in the
    > > past (not for everyone).
    > Perhaps you could give some examples of where he has been proven to be
    > wrong. Let's make it easy for you, shall we? Quote just ten (in context)
    > responses from Mr. Miller in which he has been proven to be wrong.
Perhaps
    > you could also provide the details that prove him to be wrong to support
    > your argument. If you can do that, I'll be the first to congratulate you.
    > --
    > I am not to be confused for that OTHER "Jim Jam Bonks" - you know, that
    > idiot who slams everyone with racist or otherwise insulting comments. I am
    > the GOOD Jim Jam Bonks, though of course it is only a matter of time
before
    > someone starts trying to make ME look bad through fraudulent posts.
 
Old Jul 19th 2004, 6:22 am
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Jim Jam Bonks
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John wrote:

    > Been visiting since a long time, I have not copy/pasted everyones
case for
    > proof nor I would discuss mine.
    > And I am ONLY talking about Andrew, Jim (Metcalfe and Humphries) are
much
    > better and professional.
    > Andrew doesn't know how to handle cleints, thus the free advices, coz
I
    > don;t think he would have many clients.
    > And as you mentioned abt "seeking a pro who says YES all the time"..I
have
    > taken seen them, refused to consult them and chose a profession. If I
were
    > to rely on Andrew's advice, I would have never reached where I am
today. He
    > is good, only in cases such as "how much time, what date, what forms".
    > "Jim Jam Bonks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:BD1E16CF.32749%[email protected]...
    > > in a recent article, John ([email protected]) said:
    > >
    > > > I meant the response ends there, no solution. Just Live in fear
for long
    > > > time. thats it...nevermind.
    > >
    > > Ultimately, it depends on the context. Sometimes that is the
best and
    > > only solution. Since you're quoting out of context, it's an unfair
    > example.
    > > For example, perhaps the person was talking about immigration
fraud. In
    > > that case, the quote you credit to Mr. Miller is entirely
appropriate.
    > >
    > > > But whatever advice or opinion he has given is proven to be wrong
in the
    > > > past (not for everyone).
    > >
    > > Perhaps you could give some examples of where he has been
proven to be
    > > wrong. Let's make it easy for you, shall we? Quote just ten (in
context)
    > > responses from Mr. Miller in which he has been proven to be wrong.
    > Perhaps
    > > you could also provide the details that prove him to be wrong to
support
    > > your argument. If you can do that, I'll be the first to
congratulate you.
    > >
    > > --
    > > I am not to be confused for that OTHER "Jim Jam Bonks" - you know,
that
    > > idiot who slams everyone with racist or otherwise insulting
comments. I am
    > > the GOOD Jim Jam Bonks, though of course it is only a matter of time
    > before
    > > someone starts trying to make ME look bad through fraudulent posts.
    > >


--
I am not to be confused for that OTHER "Jim Jam Bonks" - you know, that
idiot who slams everyone with racist or otherwise insulting comments. I
am
the GOOD Jim Jam Bonks, though of course it is only a matter of time
before
someone starts trying to make ME look bad through fraudulent posts.


Its amazing on how nobody is stepping forward to support Andrew!
 
Old Jul 19th 2004, 10:35 am
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John
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I am not in HATE andrew team, as I have seen others. I am sure he has helped
others, but it's off-late the not-bothered-nothng-will-happen-forget-it
attitude, and people's lives are here at stake, so a wrong, ingorant advice
can have serious implications.

So, my point was one shoouldn't ask complex questions on this board, they
are only good for "What date, how much time, and what form"..and after
Andrews off-late ignorant advices, how would one want to consult him
personally.


"Jim Jam Bonks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:bWNma3BudHM=.b18c48224306b0ece2274f8d3ff89bca @1090261368.nulluser.com...
    > John wrote:
    > > Been visiting since a long time, I have not copy/pasted everyones
    > case for
    > > proof nor I would discuss mine.
    > > And I am ONLY talking about Andrew, Jim (Metcalfe and Humphries) are
    > much
    > > better and professional.
    > >
    > > Andrew doesn't know how to handle cleints, thus the free advices, coz
    > I
    > > don;t think he would have many clients.
    > >
    > > And as you mentioned abt "seeking a pro who says YES all the time"..I
    > have
    > > taken seen them, refused to consult them and chose a profession. If I
    > were
    > > to rely on Andrew's advice, I would have never reached where I am
    > today. He
    > > is good, only in cases such as "how much time, what date, what forms".
    > >
    > > "Jim Jam Bonks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:BD1E16CF.32749%[email protected]...
    > > > in a recent article, John ([email protected]) said:
    > > >
    > > > > I meant the response ends there, no solution. Just Live in fear
    > for long
    > > > > time. thats it...nevermind.
    > > >
    > > > Ultimately, it depends on the context. Sometimes that is the
    > best and
    > > > only solution. Since you're quoting out of context, it's an unfair
    > > example.
    > > > For example, perhaps the person was talking about immigration
    > fraud. In
    > > > that case, the quote you credit to Mr. Miller is entirely
    > appropriate.
    > > >
    > > > > But whatever advice or opinion he has given is proven to be wrong
    > in the
    > > > > past (not for everyone).
    > > >
    > > > Perhaps you could give some examples of where he has been
    > proven to be
    > > > wrong. Let's make it easy for you, shall we? Quote just ten (in
    > context)
    > > > responses from Mr. Miller in which he has been proven to be wrong.
    > > Perhaps
    > > > you could also provide the details that prove him to be wrong to
    > support
    > > > your argument. If you can do that, I'll be the first to
    > congratulate you.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > I am not to be confused for that OTHER "Jim Jam Bonks" - you know,
    > that
    > > > idiot who slams everyone with racist or otherwise insulting
    > comments. I am
    > > > the GOOD Jim Jam Bonks, though of course it is only a matter of time
    > > before
    > > > someone starts trying to make ME look bad through fraudulent posts.
    > > >
    > --
    > I am not to be confused for that OTHER "Jim Jam Bonks" - you know, that
    > idiot who slams everyone with racist or otherwise insulting comments. I
    > am
    > the GOOD Jim Jam Bonks, though of course it is only a matter of time
    > before
    > someone starts trying to make ME look bad through fraudulent posts.
    > Its amazing on how nobody is stepping forward to support Andrew!
 
Old Jul 19th 2004, 3:59 pm
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Armin Meiwes
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Thanks for your input.

"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] ...
    > Been visiting since a long time, I have not copy/pasted everyones case for
    > proof nor I would discuss mine.
    > And I am ONLY talking about Andrew, Jim (Metcalfe and Humphries) are much
    > better and professional.
    > Andrew doesn't know how to handle cleints, thus the free advices, coz I
    > don;t think he would have many clients.
    > And as you mentioned abt "seeking a pro who says YES all the time"..I have
    > taken seen them, refused to consult them and chose a profession. If I were
    > to rely on Andrew's advice, I would have never reached where I am today.
He
    > is good, only in cases such as "how much time, what date, what forms".
    > "Jim Jam Bonks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:BD1E16CF.32749%[email protected]...
    > > in a recent article, John ([email protected]) said:
    > >
    > > > I meant the response ends there, no solution. Just Live in fear for
long
    > > > time. thats it...nevermind.
    > >
    > > Ultimately, it depends on the context. Sometimes that is the best
and
    > > only solution. Since you're quoting out of context, it's an unfair
    > example.
    > > For example, perhaps the person was talking about immigration fraud. In
    > > that case, the quote you credit to Mr. Miller is entirely appropriate.
    > >
    > > > But whatever advice or opinion he has given is proven to be wrong in
the
    > > > past (not for everyone).
    > >
    > > Perhaps you could give some examples of where he has been proven to
be
    > > wrong. Let's make it easy for you, shall we? Quote just ten (in
context)
    > > responses from Mr. Miller in which he has been proven to be wrong.
    > Perhaps
    > > you could also provide the details that prove him to be wrong to support
    > > your argument. If you can do that, I'll be the first to congratulate
you.
    > >
    > > --
    > > I am not to be confused for that OTHER "Jim Jam Bonks" - you know, that
    > > idiot who slams everyone with racist or otherwise insulting comments. I
am
    > > the GOOD Jim Jam Bonks, though of course it is only a matter of time
    > before
    > > someone starts trying to make ME look bad through fraudulent posts.
    > >
 

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