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Hi all, new here so apologies for my ignorance.

I am considering moving to and working in Canada (from the UK), but not sure what the best way to go about this is. I have relatives in BC (only cousins so no points but useful), so looking around that region. I am currently serving Armed Forces but on a fixed appointment full-time reserve so can leave with 3 months notice. My experience is varied but includes: training delivery, design, evaluation, audit, and analysis; media and communications; general HR at higher middle-management level (100 staff under me and HR responsibility for around 500); welfare support, training/education delivery, charity work; and events management for VIP international military and aerospace industry audience.

Is the best way to get a job offer in advance (surely not being in the country would make this harder?), to get a work permit and then apply for jobs (is that possible?), to somehow move into the country and then start the process (a bit daunting), or some other way? I looked at the Federal Skilled Worker Program but would only score 374 due to lack of experience in Canada (and no job offer), so thinking that getting "temporary" work first would be the best way to start - is that a fair assumption?

I would welcome any advice, particularly for those that have been in a similar position.

Thanks in advance!

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Originally Posted by RustyLinks
Is the best way to get a job offer in advance (surely not being in the country would make this harder?),
It will make it harder, yes. Really you need to get over there and job hunt in person - have a look at the Job Hunting section of the Wiki to see how vital personal contact is in Canada when seeking employment.

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I to get a work permit and then apply for jobs (is that possible?)
Nope. To get a work permit, you first need a job offer and LMIA. The LMIA is something the employer has to apply for, at a cost of $1000, to prove that they have advertised the job across Canada and been unable to find a Canadian willing or able to do the job.

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to somehow move into the country and then start the process
Not possible, you need a visa before you can move.

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I looked at the Federal Skilled Worker Program but would only score 374 due to lack of experience in Canada (and no job offer), so thinking that getting "temporary" work first would be the best way to start - is that a fair assumption?
In all honesty, it sounds like it's your only route if you don't score enough to get PR without a job offer. But one thing you've not mentioned is your age, are you by any changed aged 30 or under? There's one easier option if so.

If not, then a job offer/LMIA is probably your only way over, unless you fancied studying over there (and have the funds to do so). And any particular province you want to move to?
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In all honesty, it sounds like it's your only route if you don't score enough to get PR without a job offer. But one thing you've not mentioned is your age, are you by any changed aged 30 or under? There's one easier option if so.
If not, then a job offer/LMIA is probably your only way over, unless you fancied studying over there (and have the funds to do so). And any particular province you want to move to?
No, I'm 44 unfortunately (although plenty of working age left these days) so it sounds like the job offer route is the one to go for - thanks for the advice.
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No, I'm 44 unfortunately (although plenty of working age left these days) so it sounds like the job offer route is the one to go for - thanks for the advice.
Ah, ok. Assume you've done the visa eligibility test on the CIC website, what did that say? https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...nada-tool.html

And any particular province you'd like to move to?

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Ah, ok. Assume you've done the visa eligibility test on the CIC website, what did that say?

And any particular province you'd like to move to?
Yes:

Express Entry

You might be eligible for Express Entry, which includes the following federal economic immigration programs:
  • the Federal Skilled Worker Program
  • the Federal Skilled Trades Program
  • the Canadian Experience Class
Preferably British Columbia, although Alberta at a push (due to our relatives in Coquitlam).

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You might be eligible for Express Entry, which includes the following federal economic immigration programs:
  • the Federal Skilled Worker Program
  • the Federal Skilled Trades Program
  • the Canadian Experience Class
OK, so that just means you're eligible to enter the EE pool, but if you're only scoring 374 on the CRS then you'd have no chance of being selected from the pool unfortunately.

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Preferably British Columbia, although Alberta at a push (due to our relatives in Coquitlam).
OK. Do you know your NOC code (or codes)? Just wondering if by any chance any of your roles would come under the Tech Pilot PNP scheme?
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Thanks, that's a good thought but I doubt it...

I would be Skill Type 0 or A as far as I understand it (depending on whether I lean on my teaching quals or not). Specific codes could be any of the following: 0112, 0124, 0421, 1121, 1123, 1226, 4021, 4031 depending on what experience I big up.

I guess the other option would be to attempt a transfer to the Canadian Armed Forces and then seek to qualify from there...
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Thanks, that's a good thought but I doubt it...

I would be Skill Type 0 or A as far as I understand it (depending on whether I lean on my teaching quals or not). Specific codes could be any of the following: 0112, 0124, 0421, 1121, 1123, 1226, 4021, 4031 depending on what experience I big up.

I guess the other option would be to attempt a transfer to the Canadian Armed Forces and then seek to qualify from there...
OK, none of those work with the Tech Pilot.

Any plans to set up a business by any chance?
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OK, none of those work with the Tech Pilot.

Any plans to set up a business by any chance?
No, but my wife would - she has a wool shop in the UK and would be looking to set one up in Canada if we moved there.
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Do have a look at these threads - any chance you could do an exchange or secondment to Canada?
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Any expats joined the Canadian Forces?
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No, but my wife would - she has a wool shop in the UK and would be looking to set one up in Canada if we moved there.
OK, so have a look at the Start Up Visa and the BC PNP Entrepreneur stream, it's possible one of those may work? Presume you've checked your wife's points score, and she's not scoring enough either?
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Do have a look at these threads - any chance you could do an exchange or secondment to Canada?
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Thank you, that's really useful. We are expecting (with a bit of reliance on the USA) to have Canadians with us again this year in a specialist field so I will take the opportunity to speak to them about whether my own skill set is something that is good enough to be worth pursuing, that's probably my best bet. A secondment is a more remote possibility, but not completely ruled out. Not my first choice but I will certainly explore it.
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OK, so have a look at the Start Up Visa and the BC PNP Entrepreneur stream, it's possible one of those may work? Presume you've checked your wife's points score, and she's not scoring enough either?
Sadly we don't have that kind of money. Yes, my wife scores lower than me, mainly due to the difference in education. Whilst she is definitely better at languages than me she is unfortunately fluent in Italian which probably won't help!
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Sadly we don't have that kind of money. Yes, my wife scores lower than me, mainly due to the difference in education. Whilst she is definitely better at languages than me she is unfortunately fluent in Italian which probably won't help!
You don't need any more money than you will need as proof of settlement funds for the Start Up visa - you get your funding from investors! It's not the same as the self employed Entrepreneur route.

Do I have to invest my own money if I want to apply through the Start-up Visa Program?

No, you’re not required to invest any of your own money. The minimum investment required is an investment that comes from a designated Canadian venture capital fund or angel investor group.
There's also the possibility of obtaining a Temp Work permit whilst your application is being processed.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...isa/about.html
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You don't need any more money than you will need as proof of settlement funds for the Start Up visa - you get your funding from investors! It's not the same as the self employed Entrepreneur route.
Thanks, we do have enough funds for the proof of settlement, but I'm not convinced that investors are going to put that kind of money behind a wool shop, which is what my wife wants to have (well, she does have, but in the UK at the moment).
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