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Old Nov 17th 2004, 7:47 pm
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Hello experts;
What would happen if an immigrant "under skilled worker category" with a family of 5 dependents come to canada and spends all of his settelement funds that he is bringing with him and still without job. Would there be any financial assitance in a way or another from the canadian government to such immigrant?
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Old Nov 17th 2004, 7:50 pm
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All Canadians (including permanent residents) are eligible to apply for social assistance if in need.

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Hello experts;
What would happen if an immigrant "under skilled worker category" with a family of 5 dependents come to canada and spends all of his settelement funds that he is bringing with him and still without job. Would there be any financial assitance in a way or another from the canadian government to such immigrant?
Thank you in advance
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Old Nov 17th 2004, 7:58 pm
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Thank you Mr. Miller for your reply,
however, when the permenant resident be eligible to apply for social assistance...is it under special cirumstances? after how long from landing? and so on...
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Old Nov 17th 2004, 8:17 pm
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HI Ibi

Originally Posted by ibi
Thank you Mr. Miller for your reply,
however, when the permenant resident be eligible to apply for social assistance...is it under special cirumstances? after how long from landing? and so on...
Thank you and have a nice day
No special circumstances, as long as your not sponsored.

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Old Nov 17th 2004, 9:59 pm
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At any time after documenting that they need assistance. But keep in mind that settlement fund is set at the minimum amount needed for family for at least 6 months, thus it is highly unlikely that social assistance will be granted in first 6 months after landing. You will also have to document beyond doubts that you are actively seeking employment and in some jurisdictions you may be required to enroll in the job search programs. Provinces are really trying to crack down on abuse by immigrants who land, claim social assistance and then leave to go back to US or their home country, so it won't be easy to claim anything shortly after landing.

Originally Posted by ibi
Thank you Mr. Miller for your reply,
however, when the permenant resident be eligible to apply for social assistance...is it under special cirumstances? after how long from landing? and so on...
Thank you and have a nice day
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Old Nov 17th 2004, 11:41 pm
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At any time after documenting that they need assistance. But keep in mind that settlement fund is set at the minimum amount needed for family for at least 6 months, thus it is highly unlikely that social assistance will be granted in first 6 months after landing.
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It sounds like Canada needs to take a leaf out of Australia's book - no welfare for new migrants in the first two years barring catastrophic circumstances. Catastrophe does normally include something like death or serious illness of a family member, but not 'running out of money' or 'unable to find a job'.

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Old Nov 17th 2004, 11:49 pm
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Most Provinces take quite similar approach, although not as tough as Australia. But sooner or later it will come here too as abuse is really getting too wild.

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It sounds like Canada needs to take a leaf out of Australia's book - no welfare for new migrants in the first two years barring catastrophic circumstances. Catastrophe does normally include something like death or serious illness of a family member, but not 'running out of money' or 'unable to find a job'.

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Old Nov 18th 2004, 5:56 am
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Hi Andrew,

Is the Canadian Child Tax Benefit the social assistance you are referring to or this is different?


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Most Provinces take quite similar approach, although not as tough as Australia. But sooner or later it will come here too as abuse is really getting too wild.
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Old Nov 18th 2004, 6:45 am
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Tax credits and tax benefits are not social assistance - although they are also being abused by immigrants who don't live in Canada but file fraudulent tax returns to claim them.

Welfare is the social assistance I am talking about.


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Is the Canadian Child Tax Benefit the social assistance you are referring to or this is different?
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Old Nov 18th 2004, 6:51 am
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Muchos Gracias, Andrew.


Originally Posted by Andrew Miller
Tax credits and tax benefits are not social assistance - although they are also being abused by immigrants who don't live in Canada but file fraudulent tax returns to claim them.

Welfare is the social assistance I am talking about.
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