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Visiting, returning home, then landing in Canada later - possible?

Visiting, returning home, then landing in Canada later - possible?

Old Apr 3rd 2003, 7:03 am
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Mark Bell
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Default Visiting, returning home, then landing in Canada later - possible?

I have a question from someone I was hoping you might be able to help
with:

Under the new visa system the visa is stamped in the passport. We are
intending to land in August this year (our visa runs out in November).
However, we are going on a fact-finding trip at Easter for 2 weeks.
We have been advised by consultants to "land" at Easter and apply for
the new Maple Leaf ID card. Also to give the address of a friend as a
contact where they can send the ID card to. As ID cards are not
officially allowed to be sent abroad, our friends could then send the
ID cards to us back in England.

This seems rather cumbersome. Is it not possible to go on holiday at
Easter, go back to finalise arrangements and then "land" in August?

---

A CIC rep at the Call Centre told me that they should land at Easter,
as an immigration officer might question why they are coming now for a
"fact finding" mission. They could then return to England and come
back to Canada in August and re-enter using their Confirmation of
Permanent Residence (IMM 5292), and could then apply for the PR Card.

Does this make sense? Would they not have to apply for a Travel
Document (Permanent Resident Abroad) when they come back?

Thanks for your help.
 
Old Apr 3rd 2003, 7:42 am
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Pmm
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Default Re: Visiting, returning home, then landing in Canada later - possible?

Hi Mark

"Mark Bell" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I have a question from someone I was hoping you might be able to help
    > with:
    > Under the new visa system the visa is stamped in the passport. We are
    > intending to land in August this year (our visa runs out in November).
    > However, we are going on a fact-finding trip at Easter for 2 weeks.
    > We have been advised by consultants to "land" at Easter and apply for
    > the new Maple Leaf ID card. Also to give the address of a friend as a
    > contact where they can send the ID card to. As ID cards are not
    > officially allowed to be sent abroad, our friends could then send the
    > ID cards to us back in England.
    > This seems rather cumbersome. Is it not possible to go on holiday at
    > Easter, go back to finalise arrangements and then "land" in August?
    > ---
    > A CIC rep at the Call Centre told me that they should land at Easter,
    > as an immigration officer might question why they are coming now for a
    > "fact finding" mission. They could then return to England and come
    > back to Canada in August and re-enter using their Confirmation of
    > Permanent Residence (IMM 5292), and could then apply for the PR Card.
    > Does this make sense? Would they not have to apply for a Travel
    > Document (Permanent Resident Abroad) when they come back?
    > Thanks for your help.

Land at Easter, give your friends address for the PR Card and have the
friend mail the card to you in England. It is not an offence to mail the
card out of Canada.

PMM
 
Old Apr 4th 2003, 1:51 am
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Mark Bell
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Default Re: Visiting, returning home, then landing in Canada later - possible?

    > Land at Easter, give your friends address for the PR Card and have the
    > friend mail the card to you in England. It is not an offence to mail the
    > card out of Canada.

Thanks for the information. I have called the CIC Call Centre 3
times, just to see what the responses were. The first is outlined in
my first message.

The other two said:

Must land when they enter Canada. They can leave and come back, but
can't re-enter Canada with IMM5292 (Confirmation of Permanent
Residence). The document will have already been validated and stamped
'not valid for travel'.

They can provide a Canadian address and have friend mail them the PR
card.

Or, if they cannot wait for the PR card and have to travel back to
country, they can contact their local visa office, request a
"facilitation visa." This document is a special document that is used
for people in this situation, must contact the immigration department
at the visa office to request document. No idea about how the visa
office will process.

----------------

Second person:

Err on the side of caution. An immigration officer might make them
land when they arrive for their first visit - no guarantee either way.
Given current security climate, they'll likely be made to land.

If they leave, they need the PR Card to return. Confirmation of
Permanent Residence is not a record of landing - not valid for travel.

Having a friend send the Card - there may be problems. If they do not
fill it out correctly, take an improper photo, etc., they may be
contacted to resubmit the application, etc. Or they may be called
into CIC, difficult for them to do if they're not here.

There is a chance that they will not be allowed back into Canada.
Better that they come and stay in August and do not come for the first
visit.

----------

Not sure where to go with this. What have others experienced?

Thanks.
 
Old Apr 4th 2003, 4:29 am
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pkjmet
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Default Re: Visiting, returning home, then landing in Canada later - possible?

[email protected] (Mark Bell) wrote in message news:...
    > > Land at Easter, give your friends address for the PR Card and have the
    > > friend mail the card to you in England. It is not an offence to mail the
    > > card out of Canada.
    >
    > Thanks for the information. I have called the CIC Call Centre 3
    > times, just to see what the responses were. The first is outlined in
    > my first message.
    >
    > The other two said:
    >
    > Must land when they enter Canada. They can leave and come back, but
    > can't re-enter Canada with IMM5292 (Confirmation of Permanent
    > Residence). The document will have already been validated and stamped
    > 'not valid for travel'.
    >
    > They can provide a Canadian address and have friend mail them the PR
    > card.
    >
    > Or, if they cannot wait for the PR card and have to travel back to
    > country, they can contact their local visa office, request a
    > "facilitation visa." This document is a special document that is used
    > for people in this situation, must contact the immigration department
    > at the visa office to request document. No idea about how the visa
    > office will process.
    >
    > ----------------
    >
    > Second person:
    >
    > Err on the side of caution. An immigration officer might make them
    > land when they arrive for their first visit - no guarantee either way.
    > Given current security climate, they'll likely be made to land.
    >
    > If they leave, they need the PR Card to return. Confirmation of
    > Permanent Residence is not a record of landing - not valid for travel.
    >
    > Having a friend send the Card - there may be problems. If they do not
    > fill it out correctly, take an improper photo, etc., they may be
    > contacted to resubmit the application, etc. Or they may be called
    > into CIC, difficult for them to do if they're not here.
    >
    > There is a chance that they will not be allowed back into Canada.
    > Better that they come and stay in August and do not come for the first
    > visit.
    >
    > ----------
    >
    > Not sure where to go with this. What have others experienced?
    >
    > Thanks.

Both have given good advice.

Jimm Metcalfe
 

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