bavaray

Hello,

I am an Indian national and a landed immigrant in Canada. As a landed immigrant and a
national of the British Commonwealth country, I do not require a visa to go to the US
from Canada.

Well my question is whether will I require a visa to go to the US if I fly from
another country like India or Singapore. I will only be transiting through the US.
Will the airlines let you board the plane ?

Has anybody had this experience before ?

Thanks for your replies.

Ray

Shibu Basheer

Hi,

Indian nationals will need visa to enter US regardless of their country of permenant
residence. You will not be able to transit in US, and as far as I know travel
agencies in India will not even issue a ticket unless you show you have an US visa.

Shibu

On Thu, 31 May 2001, bavaray wrote:

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Peter

Shibu

Are you sure you have the right info? India is a commonwealth country therefore
Indian citizens with Canadian PR should be able to enter US without getting a visa.
I'm not so sure when the person enters US through country other than Canada. I do
know that INS port of entry officers need to be retrained to get upto date with
immigration laws.

Peter

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SB2001

I am pretty sure Indian nationals are not allowd in US without visa even though they
are PR of Canada. This sucks.. I know.

For more information on this, http://travel.state.gov/visa_services.html is a
good site.

Shibu

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Wonderinguy

I don't think so. I visited US about three times now and I did not have a US VISA. A
citizen of a common wealth country and a Can PR, need not have a visa to enter US if
the purpose of travel is for pleasure (visiting). But I am not sure they will let u
in, if u arrive from a third country. U must be able find that out from a travel
agency or a airline personnel.

If you want to confirm this, call up the US immigration and find out.

inders99

1. IF you are Indian Citizen and PR of Canada you do not need US visa to enter US IF you enter US from Canada by Border or by Air as Indians are commonwealth country citizen.
2 IF you are indian and PR of Canada and want to land in USA from India by air you need USA Visa.

David R. Tucker

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No.

This seems to cause no end of confusion. Here is the requirement:

"Canadian citizens as well as landed immigrants in Canada who are
(a) British subjects, (B) citizens of a Commonwealth country or (c) citizens of
Ireland do not need to obtain a visa in advance in order to apply for
admission to the United States. For individuals falling under these same
categories, a passport is not required to enter the U.S. except after a visit
outisde [sic, should be "outside"] the Western Hemisphere. The only exceptions
to the general visa waiver policy are for those individuals entering the U.S.
as treaty traders or investors, as the fiance of a U.S. citizen or as
immigrants. All travelers should be prepared to present documentary evidence
of identity, citizenship, and (if applicable) resident status in Canada."

From http://www.usembassycanada.gov. It's a correct statement of the law. The cite is
8 CFR 212.1(a), which you can look up on the INS web site. (Although you don't need a
passport in the cases cited, I RECOMMEND PERMANENT RESIDENTS OF CANADA ALWAYS USE
THEIR PASSPORT ANYWAY unless REALLY sure the INS will understand that the document
really is proof of citizenship of their country.)

I have no information as to whether airlines serving India understand this, but given
the confusion over it, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't.

--
David R. Tucker [email protected]

"I may be wrong, but I'm not Clearly Erroneous."

- Judge Hillman

bavaray

David,

Thanks a lot for your reply . The statement on the US Embassy in Canada's web site is
very clear. Whereas the citation under 8 CFR 212.1(a) does seem still ambiguous. It
says : "A visa is not required of an alien having a common nationality with Canadian
nationals or with British subjects in Bermuda, who has his or her residence in Canada
or Bermuda." I wonder what " common nationality " mean here.

However we still have the Embassy statement as the authority.

Thanks again for all those who replied to this query.

Ray
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Neil Armstrong

If you enter from Canada, you don't need a visa. If you enter from India, you need
a US visa.

(Not sure if India is a commonwealth country, last I heard it was a separate republic
and the queen no longer is the official head of the country.)

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David R. Tucker

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The wording is pretty odd, but it means exactly what the embassy site said it
means, believe it or not. I can't find it now, but the other day I tripped across
an official British web site that defined the term "British national" in just that
way. I was amazed, because I thought the language in 8 CFR 212 was just archaic. I
guess it isn't!

--
David R. Tucker [email protected]

"I may be wrong, but I'm not Clearly Erroneous."

- Judge Hillman