Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

Seems there needs to be some restrictions though considering the article states 3 times more people come to Canada, then Canadian's going elsewhere.

Maybe require those coming in to actually work in places with a true labor shortage, and restrict them to those area's.

"Government data, however, indicates that more than three times as many foreigners come to Canada under the program than the other way around."

Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

Possible might explain how young people feel about their own countries right now. That is certainly how I feel and I'm not even as young as so of them.

It's ok if they get rid of IEC for all countries, the Brits and Irish will just head to NZ and Australia and then they will get fed up with it but I think It's more equal in numbers that participate in those WHV between the countries.

Maybe they need to look at the quotas for all countries...

Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

Not just food services now - LMO's suspended for a range of occupations. ***

http://www.edsc.gc.ca/eng/jobs/forei...ef/index.shtml

List of all Sales and Services Occupations (Skill type 6 based on NOC-2006)
NOC Code NOC4 Title
6641 Food Counter Attendants, Kitchen Helpers and Related Occupations
0631 Restaurant and Food Service Managers
6212 Food Service Supervisors
6453 Food and Beverage Servers
6611 Cashiers
6241 Chefs
6242 Cooks
6252 Bakers
0611 Sales, Marketing and Advertising Managers
0621 Retail Trade Manager
0632 Accommodation Service Managers
0651 Other Services Managers
6211 Retail Trade Supervisors
6213 Executive Housekeepers
6214 Dry Cleaning and Laundry Supervisors
6215 Cleaning Supervisors
6216 Other Service Supervisors
6221 Technical Sales Specialists - Wholesale Trade
6251 Butchers, Meat Cutters and Fishmongers - Retail and Wholesale
6411 Sales Representatives - Wholesale Trade (Non-Technical)
6421 Retail Salespersons and Sales Clerks
6451 Maîtres d'hôtel and Hosts/Hostesses
6452 Bartenders
6484 Other Personal Service Occupations
6622 Grocery Clerks and Store Shelf Stockers
6623 Other Elemental Sales Occupations
6651 Security Guards and Related Occupations
6661 Light Duty Cleaners
6662 Specialized Cleaners
6663 Janitors, Caretakers and Building Superintendents
6681 Dry Cleaning and Laundry Occupations
6682 Ironing, Pressing and Finishing Occupations
6683 Other Elemental Service Occupations

*** EDITED to say, it could be that I am misinterpreting this and it is only jobs that relate to the food service industry

http://stds.statcan.gc.ca/naics-scia...p?criteria=722

Effective immediately, ESDC will no longer process LMOs for occupations in the Food Services Sector.

LMOs will not be processed for occupations classified by the 2002 North American Industrial Classification System (NAICS 2002) in Food Services and Drinking Places (NAICS subsector 722). Specifically, certain occupations related to sales and service and sales and service management as set out in the National Occupational Classification (NOC 2006). Please see this list for further detail.

Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

That's going to hurt small towns which are out in the sticks.

Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

must be the people you are hanging out with.

Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

I just put in a CEC PR application under NOC Code 6316/6216 which is on that list. Makes me nervous. :(

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Note: As of May 1, 2014, there is an overall cap of 8,000 for new Canadian Experience Class applications. There are also sub-caps of 200 for each National Occupational Classification B applications. These are the last applications we will accept under the current system before Express Entry launches in January 2015.
You cannot use work experience in the following occupations to qualify for the CEC:
Cooks (NOC 6322)
Food service supervisors (NOC 6311)
Administrative officers (NOC 1221)
Administrative assistants (NOC 1241)
Accounting technicians and bookkeepers (NOC 1311)
Retail sales supervisors (NOC 6211)
In addition, we are not accepting online payments for permanent residence applications under the Canadian Experience Class at this time.

Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

Oh ok, so I should be ok then? My app was received March 27th and I got my AOR on April 24th I think it was.

I also don't get why depending on which list I look at my NOC changes from 6216 to 6316. I applied under 6316 anyway.

Anyway, sorry for hijacking this thread!

Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

Hi

Here is the Q&A from ESDC on the Moratorium It still list a lot of jobs that aren't in the food sector, for what its worth: http://www.esdc.gc.ca/eng/jobs/forei..._ref/q_a.shtml

Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

Out of the list I count 9 NINE jobs related to the fast food or food service industry that are being questioned in the media.
I count 2 jobs that deal with food but is a butcher or baker really part of the problem areas that are drawing criticism.
I said in a previous post that I expect the hotel/motel industry the next to come under scrutiny and one can say there are several jobs on that list that confirm this.
Now we have some clearer answers employers and employees now have a clearer picture of the moratorium except for the when and if the moratorium will be lifted and if certain jobs will be added or removed from the list.

Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

It seems like they updated the ESDC notice two days ago in order to make clear exactly which jobs are affected by the moratorium. It now indicates that only food service jobs with those NOCs are affected. So, if a job shares a similar NOC but does not involve food service, then the moratorium doesn't apply. Here's the link to the modified page stating this:

http://www.esdc.gc.ca/eng/jobs/forei...ef/index.shtml

I'm guessing this means that they got a lot of emails and calls about this moratorium. During the past week or so, they also put up a list of frequently asked questions. It can be found here:

http://www.esdc.gc.ca/eng/jobs/forei..._ref/q_a.shtml

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Thank you for going to the trouble of finding this. I'm sure it will put a few people's minds at rest.

:fingerscrossed: it's lifted soon so that you can continue with your plans.

:)

Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

Thanks for the best wishes. It looks like it will be lifted soon. The ESDC minister seems to be giving consistent updates on progress to news outlets. Earlier this week, he mentioned a plan to increase the $275 fee to help pay for the enforcement of program regulations. At least the review is moving forward. Hopefully, they're done with their review within the next 2 - 3 weeks.

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It looks like they're getting ready to end the moratorium on restaurants soon and make their reformations to the TFWP. I just came across a news article where the mayor of Banff said that she was told by Jason Kenney's chief of staff that the process of reforming the TFWP would take weeks instead of months:

http://www.rmoutlook.com/article/201...n-tfw-decision

This conversation between the mayor and the feds took place on May 9 and I see that the feds made a few suggestions for reforms yesterday. This is good progress and it probably indicates that the ban is likely to be lifted by this month's end.

Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

Here's a link to an article in which Jason Kenney says that it will take approximately one month for him to announce his fixes to the program:

http://www.630ched.com/2014/05/21/lu...n-tfw-program/

At least we now know how long we should expect to wait for a decision. I hope that these fixes result in the end of the ban.

Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

I hope this all works out and my work place can sponsor me or else it's going to be a pretty miserable year

Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

I hope this all works out for you too. Unfortunately, your employer might have to pay $2325 for your LMO if the government decides to raise the LMO user fees. Last week, there was a lot of uproar over the possibility of a new fee among other proposed changes floated by ESDC officials.

The ban will most likely at the same time as when ESDC Minister Jason Kenney announces his changes to the public. On May 20, he said that it will take about a month, so we should hear the final verdict by June 20 (more or less).

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I found another update. ESDC has yet again changed modified their moratorium notice on May 22. This includes specifications as to which kinds of food service places are affected by the moratorium. Here's the link:

http://www.esdc.gc.ca/eng/jobs/forei...ef/index.shtml

Of course, this link will probably be meaningless in another week or so after more chances are made. Anyway, here's the text that was added to the old pre- May 22 page:

[QUOTE]classified under North American Industry Classification System (NAICS 722), which is defined as establishments primarily engaged in preparing meals, snacks and beverages, to customer order, for immediate consumption on and off the premises. This subsector does not include food service activities that occur within establishments such as hotels, civic and social associations, amusement and recreation parks, and theatres. However, leased food-service locations in facilities such as hotels, shopping malls, airports and department stores are included.[\QUOTE]

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The moratorium is being lifted next week according to two MPs from Prince George - Peace River and Westlock - St Paul. One of them says that the moratorium will be lifted tomorrow (no kidding), while the other says that it's likely to be lifted in early June. I highly doubt they'll lift it tomorrow but I believe it will be lifted some time next week.

Here are links:

http://www.coldlakesun.com/2014/05/2...e-to-be-lifted

http://www.biv.com/article/20140523/...end-soon-bc-mp

We're less than 48 hours away from the end of June 1.

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:fingerscrossed: for you and others that got caught up in this.

S

Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

Unfortunately, it wasn't lifted last week but thanks for your best wishes. It should be ending soon though. I have enough faith it'll get done this summer (if not by the end of the month).

Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

Good news everyone, Jason Kenney is announcing his changes to the program tomorrow afternoon. You can read about it here:

Ottawa to announce changes to foreign-worker program Friday - The Globe and Mail

Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

Well, he has to announce something tomorrow 'cos he knocks off for the summer after that. But don't expect it to be anything well thought out or anything even vaguely effective, but I hope it sorts out your problem.

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Oh you cynic Novo everybody knows Mr Kenney is a great minister ( future PM material according to some ).

Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

Cynic, moi? I bet you actually agree with me though.

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I dont disagree but do you honestly believe that Kenney is thinking up whatever decisions are made tomorrow. Don't even get me started on the bureaucrats who make these policies and recommendations :(
Now if only we could get Tony gazebo Clement and a few others out of office then Id be happier.

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:rofl: But surely a future PM should be in control of his own department's policy announcements?

Oh, hang on, who is the Immigration & Citizenship minister these days? Is it that turd Chris Alexander?

Re: TFW/LMO Suspended for Food Services
 

You have a point and I agree. It seems really sketchy that Kenney's announcing his changes tomorrow (of all days). This was probably the plan right from the very beginning. Last month on May 20, he told Thomas Lukaszuk that he'd be finished in a month. A week before that, he said that it would be in four to five weeks. If you dredge up all of his other predictions, they all seem to point to tomorrow when you read over them again. Considering that this moratorium was imposed for purely political purposes, it doesn't surprise me too much that he's announcing his changes tomorrow. I seriously thought that he'd at least wait a week or two after tomorrow so that his changes wouldn't appear too questionable.