Former Lancastrian

Remember the rules for this are changing on 1 June 2014
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/study/work-offcampus.asp

This thread will NOT affect full time students looking for part time or full time work when these new rules come in. Students won't need LMOs under the new off campus rules as per the link.

PMM

Hi


1. Students attending designated schools never did require LMOs for Off Campus work permits. They weren't eligible until 6 months of satisfactory schooling. As of June/01 they can start working part time off campus from day 1, no work permit required.

Former Lancastrian

I know Just pointing it out in case students think they might need LMOs with the new rules How students got into this thread is a mystery anyway unless they have just quit studying.

withabix

How rude.

On the very same CBC programme there were reports of people sending the same resume in to the same companies every 2 weeks and never returning phone calls when someone wanted to give them a job.

Because they didn't want a job. They wanted EI.

orly

I tend to peruse other news sites and Reddit (good source for discussions on this subject). Reading the posts and comments there is a venomous vitriol against this TFW program. A substantial number of people are calling for it to be scrapped and existing permits to be cancelled. All of them. No exceptions. It's not just a tiny minority. The abuses of the system have opened a can of worms.

steve of 5-0

............I love it!

Now the CEO of McDonalds Canada has been caught out!

I thank CBC for revealing the information given to them!

Shirtback

No. Not rude. Welcome to Real Life.

I have been fortunate to only have to sign on for EI twice in 17 years. Both times, despite meeting all criteria, providing all required documentation, I had to jump through multiple, unrequired (according to official sources) hoops to get it,

1st time around, I found a new job, & had been working for nearly 3 months when EI informed me I would get benefits.

2nd time around, in October 2013, I was asked for supplementary documentation, not listed as required, which I nevertheless provided, & received notification that I was accepted as eligible for EI Payments. I'm still waiting to actually receive any money, despite being still listed as unemployed. I get by on a p-t/casual job/savings.

I am aware of people who manage to play the system & live off welfare payments. And who think I am daft to work for the same amount they receive on welfare

S

jamesmc

they should have a look at certain trucking companies as well! when they are at it.

neilg14

100% right, probably the most abused TFW's over here.

Steve_

Yawn, so now Kenney (who supposedly is now the minister of employment, not immigration) has said that the TFW cannot be used by fast food restaurants. And there was that whole RBC scandal with the TWP.

On the basis of what can only be described as some hysteria whipped up by CBC.

I appreciate that maybe some of the employers weren't following the rules but on the other hand it's not clear cut. There are various legal avenues, employment standards, human rights complaint, etc. but no, let's have hysterical reporting by the CBC knowing full well the employer can't comment for legal reasons. Apparently you can also complain to ESDC directly and get the LMO revoked: http://www.esdc.gc.ca/eng/jobs/forei..._revoked.shtml

I know years ago I went into fast food restaurants that appeared to be run by children the labour shortage was so bad (and so we had radio ads explaining the child labour laws) and the local BK used to close on weekends(!) because they didn't have enough staff (now apparently they are all Filipino).

There's a legal procedure here and it all seems to be knee-jerk at the moment.

Steve_

And apparently McDonald's has now issued a press release accusing CBC (correctly imo) of being biased and the CEO has had a conference call with franchisees which was recorded, saying it's "bullshit" - well if ever there was an expert on it...

Steve_

I think that is a statement being made by CBC that is somewhat devoid of facts at this point. One McDonald's franchisee in Victoria has had their LMO yanked and a couple of others in Alberta are being investigated - that's a long way short of "fast food franchise owners".

CBC just got carried away after the RBC scandal and now they're just trolling for people who are complaining. This story (which originally came from CBC) sounds very suspicious to me: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/04...n_5187344.html

ALL of the staff were laid off - which sounds like a change of ownership to me and only TWO foreign workers were rehired. Probably for perfectly sound reasons.

bc_guy

How long do you think this moratorium is going to last? A week, a month, a year, a decade? It's a moratorium, so it won't last forever. They're going to have to have to end this suspension at some point and come out with a decision to either keep the TFW program for restaurants (possibly with new restrictions) or scrap it altogether. Im hoping that they do the former instead of making the innocent suffer for the guilty.

scrubbedexpat091

EI isn't welfare and only way to even qualify for it is to work, and pay into it, and its an insurance program.

Social assistance in Canada pays very little, and anyone working is making more then a single on welfare, in BC for example you get up to 375 for housing, and 235 for living expenses. Welfare doesn't provide what people seem to think it does.

Shirtback

Thank you, I know that, having btdtgtts. My post was rather off topic, & intended to refute another which inferred one could happily "screw the system" on EI benefits.

Welfare/social assistance is a totally different can of worms, & I shouldn't have introduced it

S