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Old Oct 26th 2015, 3:14 am
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Hi all,
I can't seem to find the answer to this question, so hoping someone can help.

Unfortunately, I have a police caution for possession of a class A drug in the UK, dating back 4.5 years. This makes me ineligible to enter Canada, I believe, but I understand that I can apply for a temporary resident permit (TRP). The guidance I have read seems to suggest that the usual visa application process should be followed and that the application will then be channeled down the TRP route. However, as a UK national and resident I would not need to apply for a visa or eTA if it were not for my misdemeanour, so is the implication that I should apply for a TRP at the port of entry? I had assumed that I would need to be interviewed by an immigration officer in the UK, as for US visa.

Or, should I make an application for eTA (even though my intended date of travel would be before the date UK residents require an eTA) which would then be refused and I would be interviewed for a TRP in UK?

I am likely to need to travel to Canada for work purposes in the next couple of months, but understand the TRP process could be very long, if not done at port of entry. Does anyone know how long, currently?

many thanks in advance for any advice
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Old Oct 26th 2015, 3:50 am
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You might like to read this thread:
http://britishexpats.com/forum/immig...-816465/page2/

(Which will probably just confuse you more )

Otherwise, according to this:
Temporary resident permits
you should contact the HC in London...

I hope FL will be along soon to answer. In the meantime, which class A drug & what quantity? (Not prurient curiosity, it *might* make a difference).
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Applying via an overseas office or VAC office will take some time.
Showing up at a POE and then applying for one has its risks as the examining officer MAY consider to issue one.
The wording is important as it is not SHALL, MUST, WILL or any other word that implies such a meaning.
If refused then you would be on the next plane back.

There are too many variables as to well what if and there is no 100% answer as to what will happen if applying at an office overseas or a POE.
IMHO much simpler to submit the application and pay the fee and getting an answer that way rather than showing up and hoping an officer decides to issue one or being refused after a long flight only to be faced with another.

How you proceed is your choice.
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Default Re: Temporary Resident Permit application from UK

thanks for the reply. I've read as much as I can find on the subject and, you're right, it is confusing. What makes it more so is that the rules/guidelines are, to some extent, open to interpretation.

I also read the second your second link and was still confused. Under how to apply, it shows either eTA (which UK residents do not need until March (?) 2016) or visa (which UK citizens usally do not require) - I thought neither of these were relevant to me, but perhaps I've mis-understood. I also couldn't see the contact details for HC London, so will check again.

No problem if it is curiosity! It was cocaine, a tiny amount, e.g. 0.1g or less.

Thanks again
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Former Lancastrian - thanks as well

Yes, that was exactly the way I was thinking. I'm also conscious, having been down similar routes for US visas, how long these things can take and the fact it will probably not fit with the timescales I require for work.

However, there doesn't seem to be a TRP application form/process for non-visa countries for those living outside of Canada, from what I can see.
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Former Lancastrian - thanks as well

Yes, that was exactly the way I was thinking. I'm also conscious, having been down similar routes for US visas, how long these things can take and the fact it will probably not fit with the timescales I require for work.

However, there doesn't seem to be a TRP application form/process for non-visa countries for those living outside of Canada, from what I can see.
Use this link to download the application forms
Application for Rehabilitation for Persons Who Are Inadmissible to Canada Because of Past Criminal Activity

Personally I would mail the application to the following
If you are applying from United Kingdom, mail your application to:

High Commission of Canada
Immigration and Medical Services Division
Canada House
Trafalgar Square
London
SW1Y 5BJ
United Kingdom

It is confusing because the CIC website states this
If you are preparing a separate application for an ARC, TRP or criminal rehabilitation you must submit it directly to the visa office responsible for your region by mail or courier only. Learn more about the ARC form and how to apply for a TRP or criminal rehabilitation.

ARC, TRP & rehabilitation applicants must include a pre-paid airway bill with their application which will be used to safely return the passport(s) and final decision. We will not be able to return your documents unless a pre-paid airway bill is included.
Submit your application – Overcoming inadmissibility

Use this for case specific enquiries
https://secure.cic.gc.ca/enquiries-r...mission=london

Don't send the application IMHO to the VAC office covering the UK send it to the High Commission address posted above.
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Contact info for London HC :

Visa office in London, United Kingdom


Probably not much help, sorry . BUT I would attempt the ETA process then attempt to contact the HC/a London VAC to see how to proceed.
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OP if its imperative that you need to come to Canada as opposed to you would like to come (company couldn't send anyone else) then this is what I suggest you do.

Send in the application along with the applicable fees and keep documentary evidence of it being sent and proof of payment. If you haven't received an answer before the trip then get a Police Certificate as per this link
How to Get a Police Certificate - United Kingdom (England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Guernsey
Ignore the fact that it says for permanent residence just apply for one.
Once you have got the PC then travel to Canada with it and a copy of any documents showing you have applied for the TRP.
Only and only if asked by CBSA on landing in Canada about arrests, charges or convictions do you then disclose any and then indicate you have applied for a TRP and produce the documents along with the PC and ask if they can issue a TRP.

If that is your only conviction bearing in mind the PC will show your history then if I was the examining officer I don't see any reason NOT TO issue one.
Why do I suggest this route its because I work for CBSA and I would take into account the following as taken from a CIC manual IP1 as found in this link

Temporary Resident Permits (TRPs): Considerations specific to inadmissibility on criminality grounds
Officers should assess:

the seriousness of the offence
the chances of committing further offences
any behavioural or medical factors involved
evidence of reform or rehabilitation
whether the influence of drugs, alcohol or a medical condition was a factor in the commission of the crime
if there is a pattern of criminal behaviour (e.g., the offence was a single event and out of character)
if all sentences have been completed, fines paid or restitution made
if there are any outstanding criminal charges
if there is any restriction of travel following probation or parole
eligibility for rehabilitation or a record of suspension
time elapsed since the offence occurred
controversy or risk caused by the presence of the person in Canada.
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Default Re: Temporary Resident Permit application from UK

Thank you all for the quick and helpful responses, much appreciated.

Former Lancastrian - I see, I didn't realise I should use the form for applying for rehabilitation for the TRP application, as I know I'm not quite yet eligible for rehabilitation.

I am the only person that my place of work could send, as it specialist. And just to be clear, it is a UK caution rather than conviction, though I realise in some countries this may be viewed as a conviction. I have no further arrests/cautions/convictions.

Just to be clear Former Lancastrian, you are suggesting I use the rehab form for TRP, even though 5 years hasn't elapsed?
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Originally Posted by rich764089
Thank you all for the quick and helpful responses, much appreciated. Former Lancastrian - I see, I didn't realise I should use the form for applying for rehabilitation for the TRP application, as I know I'm not quite yet eligible for rehabilitation. I am the only person that my place of work could send, as it specialist. And just to be clear, it is a UK caution rather than conviction, though I realise in some countries this may be viewed as a conviction. I have no further arrests/cautions/convictions. Just to be clear Former Lancastrian, you are suggesting I use the rehab form for TRP, even though 5 years hasn't elapsed?
As you can see CIC make it clear as mud on their websites.On closer inspection further down the page it states thisComing to or remaining in Canada without approval of rehabilitationIf you need to come to Canada but cannot apply for rehabilitation because five (5) years have not passed since the end of the sentence imposed or you are not eligible to apply for a record suspension (formerly a pardon) for convictions in Canada, you may request special permission to enter or remain in Canada. To do this, complete the Application for Criminal Rehabilitation (IMM 1444) (PDF, 1.24 MB) and make sure you check the box that states “For Information Only”. Attach the documents outlined in the Document Checklist.Note: There will be processing fees for applications for special permission to come into or remain in Canada. You will be advised of the processing fees at the time, or you can pay your fees online.
Actually that is taken from the guide as found in this link
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...s/5312ETOC.asp

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Default Re: Temporary Resident Permit application from UK

Thanks so much, I obviously just hadn't read all pages fully. I thought I'd read all the info exhaustively!

Does anyone have an idea of current approximate wait times for TRPs from London?
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