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Old Nov 8th 2007, 3:07 pm
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Had my Temp intra company work permit application handled by a company called TLCS, they have told me that the Consulate in London have accepted the application and that they will contact me directly in around 10 days. I asked them what they meant by accepted and should I book my flights etc. They said yes, as long as it wasn't to fly out before I receive my paperwork.

Does this sound right? The application was only made on Monday this week.
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Is your employer paying your air fares? At the risk of sounding crass, why are you worrying about your flights? You can get flights to Calgary practically any time you like.

The trick, if you're paying for yourself, is that you usually want to get the cheapest possible flights. To do that, you need to finesse the time at which you buy them. Often it's cheaper to buy tickets more than three months in advance or else just 4 - 5 days before the flight.

Although the paperwork for intra-company transfers often goes through more quickly than regular work permit applications, you still can't be sure when you'll receive the green light to go to Canada. So I think you lack enough information with which to pick the optimum travel date.

I think you should just wait. I hope your employer is paying your air fare but, even if you're paying it yourself, I still think you should wait. Or, if you insist on buying a ticket now, at least buy a full fare economy ticket so that you retain the right to change your flight date. But then, if you're going to pay full fare economy anyway, what's the advantage in buying now?

If you buy a cheap ticket now, based on your guestimate of your travel date, the work permit process could take longer than you think, and you may have to forfeit your cheap ticket.

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Originally Posted by Judy in Calgary
Is your employer paying your air fares? At the risk of sounding crass, why are you worrying about your flights? You can get flights to Calgary practically any time you like.

The trick, if you're paying for yourself, is that you usually want to get the cheapest possible flights. To do that, you need to finesse the time at which you buy them. Often it's cheaper to buy tickets more than three months in advance or else just 4 - 5 days before the flight.

Although the paperwork for intra-company transfers often goes through more quickly than regular work permit applications, you still can't be sure when you'll receive the green light to go to Canada. So I think you lack enough information with which to pick the optimum travel date.

I think you should just wait. I hope your employer is paying your air fare but, even if you're paying it yourself, I still think you should wait. Or, if you insist on buying a ticket now, at least buy a full fare economy ticket so that you retain the right to change your flight date. But then, if you're going to pay full fare economy anyway, what's the advantage in buying now?

If you buy a cheap ticket now, based on your guestimate of your travel date, the work permit process could take longer than you think, and you may have to forfeit your cheap ticket.
thanks Judy, my company is not paying for my flights so I am looking to book my flight as early as possible to get it cheap. I'm going to wait until I have had contact with the Consulate, its should hopefully be sometime next week.

Then the fun of planning our trip to Calgary starts
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Default Re: Temp Work Permit 'Accepted'?

Originally Posted by Brownstar
Had my Temp intra company work permit application handled by a company called TLCS, they have told me that the Consulate in London have accepted the application and that they will contact me directly in around 10 days. I asked them what they meant by accepted and should I book my flights etc. They said yes, as long as it wasn't to fly out before I receive my paperwork.

Does this sound right? The application was only made on Monday this week.
Did you have the LMO already?

My WP took approx. 6 weeks to process from within Canada with LMO- so yours does sound rather quick.
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Did you have the LMO already?
Didn't need an LMO as its an Intra Company transfer
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Originally Posted by Brownstar
Had my Temp intra company work permit application handled by a company called TLCS, they have told me that the Consulate in London have accepted the application and that they will contact me directly in around 10 days. I asked them what they meant by accepted and should I book my flights etc. They said yes, as long as it wasn't to fly out before I receive my paperwork.

Does this sound right? The application was only made on Monday this week.
Accordingly to company's website they are visa services company (like travel agents submitting tourist visa applications), there is nothing there stating that they are authorized immigration representatives for Canadian immigration matters. Unless someone can point me to the page on their website stating that they are authorized.

And if they are not it means they are not only not authorized but also not qualified to handle Canadian immigration matters, which include work permits and all other matters governed by IRPA.

Read here:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/departm...otice-reps.asp

It seems to me that they are just a visa applications submission service - if that then you didn't need them.

Whatever company told you may mean that CHC received your application, nothing more.

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Accordingly to company's website they are visa services company (like travel agents submitting tourist visa applications), there is nothing there stating that they are authorized immigration representatives for Canadian immigration matters. Unless someone can point me to the page on their website stating that they are authorized.

And if they are not it means they are not only not authorized but also not qualified to handle Canadian immigration matters, which include work permits and all other matters governed by IRPA.

Read here:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/departm...otice-reps.asp

It seems to me that they are just a visa applications submission service - if that then you didn't need them.

Whatever company told you may mean that CHC received your application, nothing more.
My employer uses them to process all their intra company visa applications, as I understand it they do not act as a representative, they just review and submit your application if it is complete. I'm not going to book my flights until I have the confirmation from the Consulate, which should hopefully be in the next week or so.
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Originally Posted by Brownstar
My employer uses them to process all their intra company visa applications, as I understand it they do not act as a representative, they just review and submit your application if it is complete. I'm not going to book my flights until I have the confirmation from the Consulate, which should hopefully be in the next week or so.
It is not only about representation. Section 13 of IRPA's Regulations clearly state that:

13.1 (1) Subject to subsection (2), no person who is not an authorized representative may, for a fee, represent, advise or consult with a person who is the subject of a proceeding or application before the Minister, an officer or the Board.

http://www.canlii.org/ca/regu/sor2002-227/sec13.1.html

"Reviewing" application is advising and/or consulting. And it is a no no for anyone who is charging fee and is not authorized.
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It is not only about representation. Section 13 of IRPA's Regulations clearly state that:

13.1 (1) Subject to subsection (2), no person who is not an authorized representative may, for a fee, represent, advise or consult with a person who is the subject of a proceeding or application before the Minister, an officer or the Board.

http://www.canlii.org/ca/regu/sor2002-227/sec13.1.html

"Reviewing" application is advising and/or consulting. And it is a no no for anyone who is charging fee and is not authorized.
Does that law apply in the UK?
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Law applies to anything what has to do with Canadian immigration matters governed by IRPA and it's Regulation. You are dealing with Canadian government, not UK government, thus Canadian laws apply, regardless in what country particular Canadian visa post is located.

Law states clearly - the subject of a proceeding or application before the Minister, an officer or the Board - it doesn't limit it to Canada, it applies to all Canadian immigration applications, inland and abroad.

Just like I would want to get work permit to UK - I would be subject to British immigration law, not Canadian one.

Note that Canadian law doesn't force you to use representation, advice or consulting - you can prepare and submit application on your own. But if you or your employer pays for representation, advice and/or consulting then such service can only be provided by an authorized by Canadian law representative.

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Law applies to anything what has to do with Canadian immigration matters governed by IRPA and it's Regulation. You are dealing with Canadian government, not UK government, thus Canadian laws apply, regardless in what country particular Canadian visa post is located.

Law states clearly - the subject of a proceeding or application before the Minister, an officer or the Board - it doesn't limit it to Canada, it applies to all Canadian immigration applications, inland and abroad.

Just like I would want to get work permit to UK - I would be subject to British immigration law, not Canadian one.

Note that Canadian law doesn't force you to use representation, advice or consulting - you can prepare and submit application on your own. But if you or your employer pays for representation, advice and/or consulting then such service can only be provided by an authorized by Canadian law representative.
I'm sure its fine, I work for a major multi national corp so I cannot see them using someone who is not in a position to do what they say. Like I said, they use this company for all Visa applications.
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My guess is that London got the application 10 days ago. It seems London are taking 4-6 weeks to process those without medicals.

Good luck
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Not sure if this is any help to you - we are also on an intracompany transfer work permit and our permit was issued as my husband landed in Canada - everything was pre-arranged and he had a wad of paperwork - they issued it on the border. it sounded very dodgy to me - but that is how it happened with us.
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Not sure if this is any help to you - we are also on an intracompany transfer work permit and our permit was issued as my husband landed in Canada - everything was pre-arranged and he had a wad of paperwork - they issued it on the border. it sounded very dodgy to me - but that is how it happened with us.
I think thats the same as what I will have to do, the CHC review the paperwork and if all is in order issue some additional paperwork that you present to immigration upon landing and they issue the WP.

Did your husband have to send any paperwork to the CHC before you flew to Canada?
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Not that I am aware of - it was all arranged with our company's immigration lawyers - as far as I know they just prepared all the paperwork, letter of employment, company financials and his CV, then my husband went to the immigration desk, he flew in to Toronto, they barely looked at it and he was in. I have been told not to do this on a Monday or Friday - he flew in on a Tuesday.
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