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Step children - clarification please

Old Jun 28th 2008, 7:53 am
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Hi, just asking a question on behalf of a friend, she has 2 kids from her first marriage and wants to move to Canada with kids and her second husband.

They are hopefully going to move over on a work permit, her hubby is a truck driver, what do they need to get, paperwork wise, regarding bringing her kids to Canada?

Is the same consent needed that you would get for a PR application??

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Originally Posted by louise033
Hi, just asking a question on behalf of a friend, she has 2 kids from her first marriage and wants to move to Canada with kids and her second husband.

They are hopefully going to move over on a work permit, her hubby is a truck driver, what do they need to get, paperwork wise, regarding bringing her kids to Canada?

Is the same consent needed that you would get for a PR application??

Thanks all, Louise x
She would likely need a letter from the other parent allowing removal from the country or if not given a court order allowing removal, either permanently or for a defined period.
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Originally Posted by Surrey Expat
She would likely need a letter from the other parent allowing removal from the country or if not given a court order allowing removal, either permanently or for a defined period.
Thank you, I thought so, she seems to think that she can just bring the children to Canada without her ex knowing!
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Default Re: Step children - clarification please

Hi just read your post on step children..
We'er going through a similar thing,but we are taking the step children to New Zealand.Any way if you read my thread titled 'STEP CHILDREN' on the New Zealand forum ,their are some good posts and links to various websites,
with some very good information
Hope this helps......
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Default Re: Step children - clarification please

Originally Posted by squiddley
Hi just read your post on step children..
We'er going through a similar thing,but we are taking the step children to New Zealand.Any way if you read my thread titled 'STEP CHILDREN' on the New Zealand forum ,their are some good posts and links to various websites,
with some very good information
Hope this helps......
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Default Re: Step children - clarification please

Originally Posted by louise033
Thank you, I thought so, she seems to think that she can just bring the children to Canada without her ex knowing!
I think that might be looked upon as parental abduction. Without the right documentation they would likely not get into the country anyway, let alone get a work permit or PR. Perhaps the mother should think about how this would affect the children before anything else.

http://www.ourmissingchildren.gc.ca/omc/news/tips_e.htm
http://www.officialsolicitor.gov.uk/...ernational.htm

Governments take this quite seriously.
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Default Re: Step children - clarification please

Originally Posted by Surrey Expat
I think that might be looked upon as parental abduction. Without the right documentation they would likely not get into the country anyway, let alone get a work permit or PR. Perhaps the mother should think about how this would affect the children before anything else.

http://www.ourmissingchildren.gc.ca/omc/news/tips_e.htm
http://www.officialsolicitor.gov.uk/...ernational.htm

Governments take this quite seriously.
Too right, I totally agree with you. I think my friend is burying her head in the sand, anyway, thanks for the replies x
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Default Re: Step children - clarification please

Im in a similar boat so pay a lot of attention to any threads on this subject.

I dont understand though, i have just looked at one of the links and read the following about the hague convention.

The Hague Convention works on the principle of returning children aged under 16 years who are wrongfully removed or retained away from their country of habitual residence. In order to be considered wrongful, a removal or retention must be in breach of rights of custody which are actually being exercised by a person, an institution or any other body under the law of the state in which the child was habitually resident immediately before the removal or retention.

So if only the mother has custody because they were not married, he doesnt have parental responsibility. There are then no breach of the rights of custody, so then why is it so hard to remove children!!!!
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Default Re: Step children - clarification please

Originally Posted by sas-lou
Im in a similar boat so pay a lot of attention to any threads on this subject.

I dont understand though, i have just looked at one of the links and read the following about the hague convention.

The Hague Convention works on the principle of returning children aged under 16 years who are wrongfully removed or retained away from their country of habitual residence. In order to be considered wrongful, a removal or retention must be in breach of rights of custody which are actually being exercised by a person, an institution or any other body under the law of the state in which the child was habitually resident immediately before the removal or retention.

So if only the mother has custody because they were not married, he doesnt have parental responsibility. There are then no breach of the rights of custody, so then why is it so hard to remove children!!!!

In post #1 it is clear that the parents were married.
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