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Old Nov 13th 2007, 9:17 pm
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If anyone can give me some advice it would be really appreciated. Firstly we've maybe been a bit over assumptious with the canadian immigration and keep being told different things by them. We came over to NS ( my idea, to escape difficult situations at home) both our families don't like who we've married and therefore we've never had any support from them so I thought by moving it would solve all problems , fresh start etc.

We are here as visitors (couldn't possibly wait upto 4 years for perm resident) but managed to pay the school board and get my daughter in school until the work visas come through then we get the money re-imbursed. We both thought that it would be fairly simple to get teaching positions here as there is definately a shortage of Music Teachers. We got ourselves teaching licences before arriving and we were told at the time that we could get a temporary work visa based on substitute teaching but when we got here and actually started work we were told that we could not get a visa through being a sub.

Also, we couldn't even apply for a temporary visa until one of us got a job and we would have to do temporary jobs for upto 2 years! before we would be allowed to get a permanant job. Meanwhile we have ( I know not very sensible) bought a house and my daughter is now settled in her new school and doesn't want to go back.

My husband has been offered a temp position until february (although should be extended). More bad advice to follow, we were told by imigration that we could apply for an open permit which would allow me to do substitute. Wrong! Also HRDC did not issue us with the appropriate documentation for the LMO instead they gave us an Application for an LMO! after driving over 8 hours with 2 kids and 2 night stops to reach the US/Canadiain border to get the work permit we find out that we don't have the correct paperwork! Now the school and us have been wating since September, Help! what should we do? if it wasn't for the fact that my kids are settled in school we'd both get on the first flight back to the UK where we would at least get jobs. Oh, and also I can't do my road test for 6 months as I only have a provisional from the Uk, again this was the wrong information I had been given as I had booked the road test , done the written test only to be told that I would have to go through the GLD programme! We are now in alot of debt and the last thing I feel like doing is selling the house and going back to the embarssment of facing the family.

Please anyone got any ideas, before I tell you the rest......

Lousie
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Wow, you sure were given some duff information!!

I don't know if you are eligible for this but have a search for info on the "Community Identified Stream" for Nova Scotia.

I'll have a look now and post the link.

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try this
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...am+Nova+Scotia
http://novascotiaimmigration.com/en-page1095.aspx

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Louise - Oh boy - I bet you wish you'd found British Expats before all this happened?!

Yours is the perfect example of why tons of research is needed and why it usually pays off. You obviously did some research, because you decided to 'wing it' on a visitors visa in the hope that everything else would fall into place, even if that was on the back of poor advice. With no direct involvement myself, I already know how difficult it is for teachers to transfer their skills into the Canadian education system.

I can't really offer any advice - and I'm sorry you have been given some bad info along the way, but I'll send lots of best wishes that you can muddle through this and sort something out. On the other hand, I suspect you need to be prepared to leave the country if necessary. Not much help really !

How much longer have you got on your visitor's visa? Have you already renewed that once or more? Did you encounter any problems?
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If anyone can give me some advice it would be really appreciated.
Get professional help from an immigration lawyer. You need to speak to someone who understands the system.
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Just a thought Louise - we came out on visitors visas and applied for WP's once here, on the basis that we were starting a business. Maybe this could be a solution for you? If music teachers are in such demand, why not teach privately (run your own 'music academy' or something?).

You'll need to convince immigration that you're providing 'substantial benefit' to the local community via a 5yr business plan, but a decent immigration lawyer that specialises in this area should be able to help.

We were issued 3yr WP's (having applied for PR before leaving the UK), an open one for my wife, and one for me dedicated to running the business we started.

A WP issued for business purposes isn't contingent on the amount of $ you're investing, so shouldn't make your financial situation worse (I assume if you've your own home and access to musical instruments etc then finding space and opportunity to run your own business should be relatively easy?)
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Originally Posted by louisehaig
If anyone can give me some advice it would be really appreciated. Firstly we've maybe been a bit over assumptious with the canadian immigration and keep being told different things by them. We came over to NS ( my idea, to escape difficult situations at home) both our families don't like who we've married and therefore we've never had any support from them so I thought by moving it would solve all problems , fresh start etc.

We are here as visitors (couldn't possibly wait upto 4 years for perm resident) but managed to pay the school board and get my daughter in school until the work visas come through then we get the money re-imbursed. We both thought that it would be fairly simple to get teaching positions here as there is definately a shortage of Music Teachers. We got ourselves teaching licences before arriving and we were told at the time that we could get a temporary work visa based on substitute teaching but when we got here and actually started work we were told that we could not get a visa through being a sub.


holy cowtake advice from here and you will be ok all you need to know is on here so good luck

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Also, we couldn't even apply for a temporary visa until one of us got a job and we would have to do temporary jobs for upto 2 years! before we would be allowed to get a permanant job. Meanwhile we have ( I know not very sensible) bought a house and my daughter is now settled in her new school and doesn't want to go back.

My husband has been offered a temp position until february (although should be extended). More bad advice to follow, we were told by imigration that we could apply for an open permit which would allow me to do substitute. Wrong! Also HRDC did not issue us with the appropriate documentation for the LMO instead they gave us an Application for an LMO! after driving over 8 hours with 2 kids and 2 night stops to reach the US/Canadiain border to get the work permit we find out that we don't have the correct paperwork! Now the school and us have been wating since September, Help! what should we do? if it wasn't for the fact that my kids are settled in school we'd both get on the first flight back to the UK where we would at least get jobs. Oh, and also I can't do my road test for 6 months as I only have a provisional from the Uk, again this was the wrong information I had been given as I had booked the road test , done the written test only to be told that I would have to go through the GLD programme! We are now in alot of debt and the last thing I feel like doing is selling the house and going back to the embarssment of facing the family.

Please anyone got any ideas, before I tell you the rest......

Lousie
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Originally Posted by louisehaig
If anyone can give me some advice it would be really appreciated. Firstly we've maybe been a bit over assumptious with the canadian immigration and keep being told different things by them. We came over to NS ( my idea, to escape difficult situations at home) both our families don't like who we've married and therefore we've never had any support from them so I thought by moving it would solve all problems , fresh start etc.

We are here as visitors (couldn't possibly wait upto 4 years for perm resident) but managed to pay the school board and get my daughter in school until the work visas come through then we get the money re-imbursed. We both thought that it would be fairly simple to get teaching positions here as there is definately a shortage of Music Teachers. We got ourselves teaching licences before arriving and we were told at the time that we could get a temporary work visa based on substitute teaching but when we got here and actually started work we were told that we could not get a visa through being a sub.

Also, we couldn't even apply for a temporary visa until one of us got a job and we would have to do temporary jobs for upto 2 years! before we would be allowed to get a permanant job. Meanwhile we have ( I know not very sensible) bought a house and my daughter is now settled in her new school and doesn't want to go back.

My husband has been offered a temp position until february (although should be extended). More bad advice to follow, we were told by imigration that we could apply for an open permit which would allow me to do substitute. Wrong! Also HRDC did not issue us with the appropriate documentation for the LMO instead they gave us an Application for an LMO! after driving over 8 hours with 2 kids and 2 night stops to reach the US/Canadiain border to get the work permit we find out that we don't have the correct paperwork! Now the school and us have been wating since September, Help! what should we do? if it wasn't for the fact that my kids are settled in school we'd both get on the first flight back to the UK where we would at least get jobs. Oh, and also I can't do my road test for 6 months as I only have a provisional from the Uk, again this was the wrong information I had been given as I had booked the road test , done the written test only to be told that I would have to go through the GLD programme! We are now in alot of debt and the last thing I feel like doing is selling the house and going back to the embarssment of facing the family.

Please anyone got any ideas, before I tell you the rest......

Lousie
Louise I'm so sorry to hear of all the rotten luck you are having. Try to get in touch with Andrew Miller on here - he is brill and very helpful. He is in BC but he may be able to direct you to somone in your area.

May I also say not to worry about your two families at least you have had the guts to move all the way to Canada and give a new life a go....and you are trying very hard

Dont forget if you have to go back to the UK...it is a big country and you dont have to return to your home town

Stick with us crazies and we will sort you out
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Originally Posted by bazzz
Get professional help from an immigration lawyer. You need to speak to someone who understands the system.
Yep, I agree, there has been enough well intentioned amateur bodging so far to last a life time.

AM is based on the west coast...I would look for someone closer to home so you can have a face to face and sort out the work permit mess as a top priority.
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Louise,

Call Francis Woolfe, head of immigraion, at Halifax immigration office, 902 424 5230. She is really lovely, and if you explain I am sure she will point you in the direcion of community identified, or maybe something even more relevant to you.

We got through this programme start - finish in 6 months, and there might be some flexibiliy for you to get an extension in the meantime? She will advise.

good luck!
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Hi and thanks to y'all for your advice, funny today I got a phone call earlier on and I'm needed to teach in a local school so will find out for definite on Friday. I thought it would be a good idea to jump ahead a bit by getting medicals done before we arrive, the daft Dr sent them off before we asked him to now they are somewhere in the London immigration office lost! any ideas how to get them chased up quicker so we can send them on to Ottawa?
One other question, we're banking with HSBC and have a 40 yr mortgage with them! can anyone reccommend a better rate than 6.5% with a different bank. (they were the only ones who would give us a mrge without firm job offers but we had $140 downpayment)
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Well I would just say that dispite all the wrong turns that have plagued you thus far.... your still here!! and by the sounds of it TRYING your best. My situation was kinda tricky too but now I've got a 3 yr WP and looking to get my PR from within the country.... LONGEST ROUTE I've heard but to hell with the easy path...LOL. I have a common law partner and a new baby son, I'm only ever going back to the UK to visit family that I care to visit and to see my first born son. I think you should get some pro advice asap and get the rest of your life sorted. I'm sure you're gonna like the gamble payback once the stress dies down a bit.
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Originally Posted by louisehaig
Hi and thanks to y'all for your advice, funny today I got a phone call earlier on and I'm needed to teach in a local school so will find out for definite on Friday. I thought it would be a good idea to jump ahead a bit by getting medicals done before we arrive, the daft Dr sent them off before we asked him to now they are somewhere in the London immigration office lost! any ideas how to get them chased up quicker so we can send them on to Ottawa?
One other question, we're banking with HSBC and have a 40 yr mortgage with them! can anyone reccommend a better rate than 6.5% with a different bank. (they were the only ones who would give us a mrge without firm job offers but we had $140 downpayment)
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Hi Louise

Try RBC - we got a mortgage about 8 weeks ago fixed for 5 years at 5.79%

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Try TD Canada, we got a 5 yr fixed at 5.74% with about 45% down, but play them off each other - TD first offered 6.18, RBC offered 5.79 - ring back and forth, got it down to 5.74 - all the better for my pocket!
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