Spousal Sponsorship - Should I wait until I move back to Canada?
Mar 3rd 2020, 2:07 am
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Re: Spousal Sponsorship - Should I wait until I move back to Canada?
Do you have that link? I'm interested, because I've been collecting my documents and all of my odds and ends, but haven't yet fully made up my mind. Were you traveling with your spouse at the time?
I feel like my wife could play it pretty similarly, because I am going back to Canada partially due to a job.
Let me know. Thanks!
I feel like my wife could play it pretty similarly, because I am going back to Canada partially due to a job.
Let me know. Thanks!
Yes we travelled together, but she went straight through (as a Canadian), I went to secondary (length of stay + carrying cheese). Carry some cheese. It might distract CBSA from the other issue at hand! I think I said I was staying for a month.
I also travelled back to UK while documents submitted, but before they acknowledged receipt (this is sometimes described as risky here).
Again went to secondary, CBSA dude was v cool once again, this time gave me a visitors record or something, he said it would make it easy for me to fly in and out if I wanted to.
I'd say don't act like a dick, but also don't act super defensive. You've got a legitimate claim for PR, and at same time CBSA have to do their job.
Mar 3rd 2020, 5:19 am
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Re: Spousal Sponsorship - Should I wait until I move back to Canada?
Do you have that link? I'm interested, because I've been collecting my documents and all of my odds and ends, but haven't yet fully made up my mind. Were you traveling with your spouse at the time?
I feel like my wife could play it pretty similarly, because I am going back to Canada partially due to a job.
Let me know. Thanks!
I feel like my wife could play it pretty similarly, because I am going back to Canada partially due to a job.
Let me know. Thanks!
https://britishexpats.com/wiki/Spous...d_Applications
A note for people who want to apply inland after entering Canada using Dual Intent
A February 2017 judgement, 'Mata vs Canada', outlines the case of an American who was issued an exclusion order after trying to enter Canada under dual intent with the intention of applying for Inland sponsorship but was turned away due to a lack of ties to the home country: Visiting Canada under Dual Intent / Intending Inland sponsorship - please read
Mar 3rd 2020, 9:02 am
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+1 to what Siouxie's said. If you want to be sure of your wife being allowed to enter Canada with your wife, then apply outland. There's no 'dual intent' if you haven't submitted a PR app, so you're then at the whim of a border officer and no guarantee your wife won't be refused entry.
When you say 'within the year', any more specific timeframe?
If you applied now, outland, your wife would have PR early 2021 as a rough guide. But if you moved in say, September, then she could go with you and wait for PR whilst in Canada. She just couldn't work until she gets PR.
If you move in Sept, then apply inland, it's still going to be early 2021 before your wife can work as it takes 4-5 months to get the work permit after applying. And she'd then have another 6-8 months before she got PR.
So unless you want to move much sooner, I can't see any advantage that an inland app would give you, and just wouldn't take the risk myself personally. If you just want to be out there in 2020, I'd apply outland asap, there's even a small chance she'd have PR before you move then.
If you applied now, outland, your wife would have PR early 2021 as a rough guide. But if you moved in say, September, then she could go with you and wait for PR whilst in Canada. She just couldn't work until she gets PR.
If you move in Sept, then apply inland, it's still going to be early 2021 before your wife can work as it takes 4-5 months to get the work permit after applying. And she'd then have another 6-8 months before she got PR.
So unless you want to move much sooner, I can't see any advantage that an inland app would give you, and just wouldn't take the risk myself personally. If you just want to be out there in 2020, I'd apply outland asap, there's even a small chance she'd have PR before you move then.
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Mar 10th 2020, 2:55 am
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Re: Spousal Sponsorship - Should I wait until I move back to Canada?
+1 to what Siouxie's said. If you want to be sure of your wife being allowed to enter Canada with your wife, then apply outland. There's no 'dual intent' if you haven't submitted a PR app, so you're then at the whim of a border officer and no guarantee your wife won't be refused entry.
When you say 'within the year', any more specific timeframe?
If you applied now, outland, your wife would have PR early 2021 as a rough guide. But if you moved in say, September, then she could go with you and wait for PR whilst in Canada. She just couldn't work until she gets PR.
If you move in Sept, then apply inland, it's still going to be early 2021 before your wife can work as it takes 4-5 months to get the work permit after applying. And she'd then have another 6-8 months before she got PR.
So unless you want to move much sooner, I can't see any advantage that an inland app would give you, and just wouldn't take the risk myself personally. If you just want to be out there in 2020, I'd apply outland asap, there's even a small chance she'd have PR before you move then.
When you say 'within the year', any more specific timeframe?
If you applied now, outland, your wife would have PR early 2021 as a rough guide. But if you moved in say, September, then she could go with you and wait for PR whilst in Canada. She just couldn't work until she gets PR.
If you move in Sept, then apply inland, it's still going to be early 2021 before your wife can work as it takes 4-5 months to get the work permit after applying. And she'd then have another 6-8 months before she got PR.
So unless you want to move much sooner, I can't see any advantage that an inland app would give you, and just wouldn't take the risk myself personally. If you just want to be out there in 2020, I'd apply outland asap, there's even a small chance she'd have PR before you move then.
One question - another one of my concerns is receiving a refusal based on insufficient evidence of my returning. If that were to happen, would I be able to apply again after I moved back to Canada?
Mar 10th 2020, 3:02 am
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Re: Spousal Sponsorship - Should I wait until I move back to Canada?
but you are a worry wart. Follow the wiki guidelines about proof of return, make genuine preparations and gather the proof that you have made genuine preparations and you will be fine.
Do a skim job that amount to 'I will, honest' with vague musings and you will be asked to provide a lot more. They will not turn you down without at least a request for further proof.
Please read the wiki on this!
Mar 11th 2020, 3:12 am
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Re: Spousal Sponsorship - Should I wait until I move back to Canada?
Number 1 tip, don't put down a specific date of return; it's been reported that there have been PR applications refused when they were ready to issue the COPRA but the sponsoring spouse had said they were not intending to return until more than 6 months later! 
https://britishexpats.com/wiki/Spous...n_to_Canada.3F
Don't forget your children will require Canadian passports, if they don't already have them. https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...it-canada.html
https://britishexpats.com/wiki/Spous...n_to_Canada.3F
Don't forget your children will require Canadian passports, if they don't already have them.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...it-canada.htmlsimple answer is, yes.
but you are a worry wart. Follow the wiki guidelines about proof of return, make genuine preparations and gather the proof that you have made genuine preparations and you will be fine.
Do a skim job that amount to 'I will, honest' with vague musings and you will be asked to provide a lot more. They will not turn you down without at least a request for further proof.
Please read the wiki on this!
but you are a worry wart. Follow the wiki guidelines about proof of return, make genuine preparations and gather the proof that you have made genuine preparations and you will be fine.
Do a skim job that amount to 'I will, honest' with vague musings and you will be asked to provide a lot more. They will not turn you down without at least a request for further proof.
Please read the wiki on this!
I did read the Wiki, specifically regarding proof of return, and it calmed my nerves a bit. My plan is to get letters from my friends/family stating their knowledge of my return. I'm going to get a letter from my mom outlining my plan to stay with her initially until I find lodging of my own, and a letter from my parent's company, where I'm going to work, stating that I'll have a job available when I return. I'm also going to work on an import list of my possessions for coming across the border. I should probably be documenting my calls to the CBSA as additional proof.
Thanks! I really do appreciate all of the help and guidance.
