Spousal Sponsorship gone wrong.

Old Oct 22nd 2012, 1:08 am
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Here is a story that shows spousal sponsorship has its perils and why CIC are looking at changing the rules regarding spousal sponsorship.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...riagebill.html
Now I know its probably not as prevelant between Canadians and Brits but stories like these do tend to show why CIC are sometimes dragging their feet in approving spousal/common law applications. Personally I agree with the proposed changes being made.
Kenney said the rules will soon change, so spouses like Telyuk will have to live with their spouses for at least two years after getting residency. During that time, their status in Canada will be conditional.
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
but stories like these do tend to show why CIC are sometimes dragging their feet in approving..... .
The CIC just drag there feet full stop............
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Default Re: Spousal Sponsorship gone wrong.

These kind of things happen unfortunately, but let's be honest, they represent a tiny fraction of the overall number of spousal sponsorship applications.

How or why these instances would lead to CIC "dragging" their feet is anyones guess...
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Perhaps CIC look at the applications and who, what,or where is involved before they decide to rubber stamp all spousal applications. It is more prevelant than you think though the vast majority of cases are never reported in the media.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canad...214330214.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/stor...er-agency.html
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
Here is a story that shows spousal sponsorship has its perils and why CIC are looking at changing the rules regarding spousal sponsorship.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...riagebill.html
Now I know its probably not as prevelant between Canadians and Brits but stories like these do tend to show why CIC are sometimes dragging their feet in approving spousal/common law applications. Personally I agree with the proposed changes being made.
Kenney said the rules will soon change, so spouses like Telyuk will have to live with their spouses for at least two years after getting residency. During that time, their status in Canada will be conditional.
Spouses should definitely be living together for a set period of time after they are approved PR, they do it in the UK.

I am not saying the UK system is better, but the UK does have in place a fiance visa whereby they are required to marry within 3 months and must stay together for a conditional period of 2 years and after the 2 years prove that the marriage is still genuine before full PR is given...

I feel sorry for this gentleman, he was obviously genuine in his feelings for the woman and has been taken for a ride.

I'm not sure why CIC drag their feet with spousal sponsorship, the background checks are all the same from what I can tell. The officer who approved their application must have also felt that this couple were in a genuine marriage, so they too were taken for a ride. The woman should lose her PR status.
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I'm a sap. I feel sorry for the old guy. I think she should me made to make the payments and be deported.

He's 82... give the old guy a break. He's probably paid taxes all his life.
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I'm a sap. I feel sorry for the old guy. I think she should me made to make the payments and be deported.

He's 82... give the old guy a break. He's probably paid taxes all his life.
He agreed to be financially responsible for her. He didn't have to marry her, he chose to do so, one assumes, knowing the risks. She could be claiming spousal support from him. I know which one I would rather pay
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
He agreed to be financially responsible for her. He didn't have to marry her, he chose to do so, one assumes, knowing the risks. She could be claiming spousal support from him. I know which one I would rather pay
The guy is in his 80s and got taken for a ride. Have you no sympathy?
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Originally Posted by jericho
These kind of things happen unfortunately, but let's be honest, they represent a tiny fraction of the overall number of spousal sponsorship applications.

How or why these instances would lead to CIC "dragging" their feet is anyones guess...
Not as uncommon as you think. If you search CanLII http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/irb/index.html with spouse sponsorship as the text. This is just the appeals of refusals. Annually overall between 12-14% refusal rate on spouses, 45% refusal rate at Accra London 7%
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Originally Posted by Geordie Lass
The guy is in his 80s and got taken for a ride. Have you no sympathy?
I bet he had a few rides before she turned the tables
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I bet he had a few rides before she turned the tables
Oh pleeeeeassseee
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I bet he had a few rides before she turned the tables
that's not even funny - that's like imagining your grandparents doing it
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I've lived with my (now) husband in a few odd places, mostly in Africa, but a few years back before we had our son and moved to Europe, ladies would come up to us when we were sitting on the beach, together, and ask where we came from, and when OH said Canada, they made a direct bee line for him...if I were there or not, because they wanted to move to Canada. It's still the same now...in the last month he's taken an aircraft from Bangladesh to Montreal and been offered all sorts of 'permanent' companionship...surely it's understandable...regretably?
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It is understandable, yes. However, if you think about it, people who are prepared to marry some poor innocent to get into Canada are probably prepared to live with them for 2 years longer in order to get their permanent residence. On the other hand, people who feel genuinely unhappy in their marriage may feel pressured to stay in the relationship for another 2 years. At that point they can leave. If that had happened to the 82 year old man in this story, he might be 84 and dealing with the same issues for the first time, could have died and left his wife the money, or be in the situation where he discovers his wife has been cheating on him for 2 years! Relationships, in general, are very complicated and I do not believe it is easy to make rules to deal with them - I am not sure about these proposed changes because I think the people who have been abusing the system may simply carry on doing so.
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