Skilled Workers and Professionals

Old Jun 1st 2011, 11:06 pm
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Ok well first, hello everyone! I'm Jack 21 years of age I am a carpenter and want to go to Canada!

Now for a few questions:-
On the cic website it says...
For your application to be eligible for processing, you must:

•include the results of your official language proficiency test, AND
•have a valid offer of arranged employment, OR
•have one year of continuous full-time paid work experience in at least one of the occupations listed here.

So if I don't have an employer lined up ready, I still qualify to apply for the visa as I have 5 years experience in the carpentry occupation.
Am I right? or interpreting this wrong?

My other question is do you need a work permit on top of this visa? Sorry if these are tedious questions that get asked alot or if they are obvious answers, I would just like confirmation from you more experienced folk, I don't think the cic website is very clear on a lot of topics!

Any help would be appreciated, thanks
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Old Jun 1st 2011, 11:43 pm
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Nope, at my last check carpenter was an FSW application and therefore you are eligible for sponsorless permanent residence.

You are cat 7215. http://britishexpats.com/wiki/THE_LIST-Canada

You'll need to get your application in fairly quickly though, there are quotas in place and the rules could change.
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Nope, at my last check carpenter was an FSW application and therefore you are eligible for sponsorless permanent residence.

You are cat 7215. http://britishexpats.com/wiki/THE_LIST-Canada

You'll need to get your application in fairly quickly though, there are quotas in place and the rules could change.
christmasoompa will be all over this in a few seconds. But be careful, carpenters (plain and simple) are a different NOC code to 7215.
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christmasoompa will be all over this in a few seconds. But be careful, carpenters (plain and simple) are a different NOC code to 7215.
They sure are - have a look at the duties here and see if you are one of the 7215 carpenters - http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/...spx?val65=7215 or whether you are one of these 7271 carpenters - http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/...al65=carpenter or even perhaps a 7611 carpenter - http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/...al65=carpenter

To qualify under the FSW skilled worker stream you would need to undertake the duties listed in the 7215 carpenter NOC above and be able to back this claim up with documentation.
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian View Post
christmasoompa will be all over this in a few seconds. But be careful, carpenters (plain and simple) are a different NOC code to 7215.
I think 7271 is for Carpenter.
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They sure are - have a look at the duties here and see if you are one of the 7215 carpenters - http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/...spx?val65=7215 or whether you are one of these 7271 carpenters - http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/...al65=carpenter or even perhaps a 7611 carpenter - http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/...al65=carpenter

To qualify under the FSW skilled worker stream you would need to undertake the duties listed in the 7215 carpenter NOC above and be able to back this claim up with documentation.
I have my nvq and aca level 3 certs, my current UK employer will give me good references and I have a portfolio which I have built up over the years too. Does anyone know roughly how long one of these visas take to process? I know I need to be quick as I only have until 30th of june to submit my application!
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Originally Posted by Jacko21 View Post
I think 7271 is for Carpenter.
7271 is for normal carpenter - 7215 is for carpenters who run their own businesses or who are at supervisory/journeyman level. It is down to the duties you do and which NOC they fit into and whether you can get the documentary proof to back up your claim that you fit under that code.
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Originally Posted by AmyDavid View Post
7271 is for normal carpenter - 7215 is for carpenters who run their own businesses or who are at supervisory/journeyman level. It is down to the duties you do and which NOC they fit into and whether you can get the documentary proof to back up your claim that you fit under that code.
Not journeymen/women, you have to be a supervisor.
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christmasoompa will be all over this in a few seconds. But be careful, carpenters (plain and simple) are a different NOC code to 7215.
Ah see, and I took 9 hours!

OP, as everybody else has said, you'd need to run your own business or have supervisory duties to qualify under the 7215 NOC code on the eligible occupations list for FSW program. If you do, and can prove that you do the duties list, plus meet the other criteria (i.e. enough points, proof of funds, etc) then you could apply as a Skilled Worker and would not need a job offer.

If this is not a suitable NOC code for you, then yes, you would need a job offer approved by HRSDC to apply as a Skilled Worker.

Another alternative is to look at a Working Holiday Visa which would give you a year's open work permit for Canada, to get you over there and then hopefully upgrade that to PR.

HTH and good luck.

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Originally Posted by Jacko21 View Post
I have my nvq and aca level 3 certs, my current UK employer will give me good references and I have a portfolio which I have built up over the years too. Does anyone know roughly how long one of these visas take to process? I know I need to be quick as I only have until 30th of june to submit my application!
You need to forget about applying before the 30th June, even if you do qualify under that NOC code. By the time you've got your IELTS result (wait of a few weeks for an exam place and then another 2 weeks or so to get the result), gathered all of the rest of your paperwork and filled in all of the forms, you're looking at at least 6-8 weeks before you could send your application off.

It would then take around 12 months for you to get PR after applying going on recent timelines, but first you need to figure out if you do definitely qualify as a Skilled Worker without a job offer.

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Maybe this will help you with the Canadian definition of a carpenter and the background requirements. They do tend to use some different and varying terminology than that your use to. http://www.ellischart.ca/

Good luck with your application.
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