Should you apply for TWP and then apply for PR from inside Canada?
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Should you apply for TWP and then apply for PR from inside Canada?
Hi,
My wife and four kids are living on a work visa in Australia but keen to move to Canada. Our visa here will come to an end soon and we would like to have an arrangement in place before that happens.
Processing times for PR would be a bit too long so I wonder if we should find employment and get a TWP and apply for PR after one year from within Canada.
I am 51, my wife 48 and we have four kids 17,15,7 and 5
I am a tennis coach with 30 years experience and a high performance coach qualification, my wife is a retired ballet dancer and my oldest child about to finish school this year ready to enrol into university.
Should I seek consultation for a migration agent/lawyer for TWP or is this a straight forward application I could do from home?
Many many thanks in advance. Your insight and help is highly appreciated.
My wife and four kids are living on a work visa in Australia but keen to move to Canada. Our visa here will come to an end soon and we would like to have an arrangement in place before that happens.
Processing times for PR would be a bit too long so I wonder if we should find employment and get a TWP and apply for PR after one year from within Canada.
I am 51, my wife 48 and we have four kids 17,15,7 and 5
I am a tennis coach with 30 years experience and a high performance coach qualification, my wife is a retired ballet dancer and my oldest child about to finish school this year ready to enrol into university.
Should I seek consultation for a migration agent/lawyer for TWP or is this a straight forward application I could do from home?
Many many thanks in advance. Your insight and help is highly appreciated.
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Re: Should you apply for TWP and then apply for PR from inside Canada?
Hi, and welcome to BE.
If you've not found employment yet, then a TWP is likely to take longer than a PR app. By the time you've found a job from an employer prepared to sponsor you, then got the LMIA (usually takes around 3-4 months), then a PR app may be quicker or take the same amount of time. Tbh, with a family if PR is an option then I'd go for that rather than a TWP.
Have you checked to see if you're eligible for PR? Do check to make sure you'd be scoring enough on the CRS to be eligible to apply under EE, as your ages will unfortunately impact your points.
There really would be no need for a consultant for a TWP, most normally just get theirs at the airport when they arrive in Canada, you don't even need to apply for it beforehand if you're a UK citizen.
HTH, best of luck.
Hi,
I am 51, my wife 48 and we have four kids 17,15,7 and 5
I am a tennis coach with 30 years experience and a high performance coach qualification, my wife is a retired ballet dancer and my oldest child about to finish school this year ready to enrol into university.
I am 51, my wife 48 and we have four kids 17,15,7 and 5
I am a tennis coach with 30 years experience and a high performance coach qualification, my wife is a retired ballet dancer and my oldest child about to finish school this year ready to enrol into university.
HTH, best of luck.
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Re: Should you apply for TWP and then apply for PR from inside Canada?
HI christmasoompa,
Many thanks for your response. I think what I am going to do is to collect my paperwork and apply for PR.
I think that my wife and I are are sufficiently qualified and experienced in our jobs and the language test shouldn’t be an obstacle either to achieve a decent score.
What is the minimum score?
What is your experience with the red tape? Can one handle the necessary paperwork oneself or is it necessary to have a migration agent?
I need to budget well and if I can get the desired outcome myself I won’t hire an agent.
What do you think?
Many thanks again.
Many thanks for your response. I think what I am going to do is to collect my paperwork and apply for PR.
I think that my wife and I are are sufficiently qualified and experienced in our jobs and the language test shouldn’t be an obstacle either to achieve a decent score.
What is the minimum score?
What is your experience with the red tape? Can one handle the necessary paperwork oneself or is it necessary to have a migration agent?
I need to budget well and if I can get the desired outcome myself I won’t hire an agent.
What do you think?
Many thanks again.
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Re: Should you apply for TWP and then apply for PR from inside Canada?
HI christmasoompa,
Many thanks for your response. I think what I am going to do is to collect my paperwork and apply for PR.
I think that my wife and I are are sufficiently qualified and experienced in our jobs and the language test shouldn’t be an obstacle either to achieve a decent score.
What is the minimum score?
What is your experience with the red tape? Can one handle the necessary paperwork oneself or is it necessary to have a migration agent?
I need to budget well and if I can get the desired outcome myself I won’t hire an agent.
What do you think?
Many thanks again.
Many thanks for your response. I think what I am going to do is to collect my paperwork and apply for PR.
I think that my wife and I are are sufficiently qualified and experienced in our jobs and the language test shouldn’t be an obstacle either to achieve a decent score.
What is the minimum score?
What is your experience with the red tape? Can one handle the necessary paperwork oneself or is it necessary to have a migration agent?
I need to budget well and if I can get the desired outcome myself I won’t hire an agent.
What do you think?
Many thanks again.
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Re: Should you apply for TWP and then apply for PR from inside Canada?
I'm assuming that you've looked in to it enough to make sure you definitely qualify as a Federal Skilled Worker i.e. you're scoring at least 67 in that test? https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...d-workers.html
If so, and if you therefore qualify to enter the Express Entry pool of applicants, then to get selected from that pool you'll need approx 450 or more to be in with a good chances of being selected and invited to apply for PR. 430-440 may do it, but you could be waiting a while at that level, and less than that and you are very unlikely to get invited at all IMO. Check your scores here - Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) tool: skilled immigrants (Express Entry)
HTH.
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Re: Should you apply for TWP and then apply for PR from inside Canada?
As a tennis coach are you self employed? The Federal Self Employed PR processing time has drastically reduced recently to 26 months so may be worth looking at and you avoid having to worry about points!
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Re: Should you apply for TWP and then apply for PR from inside Canada?
Thank you so much farmhand. I believe this is our best chance. Do you know more details about the ins and outs!
Many thanks
Many thanks
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Re: Should you apply for TWP and then apply for PR from inside Canada?
I am sure some on here know more and I stand to be corrected but as a self employed person you would be exempt (obviously) from a LMIA when applying for a work permit. I have a feeling you may have to put in the PR application and then apply for the work permit and enter Canada with dual intent. According to the CIC web site work permits can take as little as 6 weeks for UK nationals.
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Re: Should you apply for TWP and then apply for PR from inside Canada?
This is great news. I will get stuck into my paperwork.
Thank you so much
Thank you so much
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I am sure some on here know more and I stand to be corrected but as a self employed person you would be exempt (obviously) from a LMIA when applying for a work permit. I have a feeling you may have to put in the PR application and then apply for the work permit and enter Canada with dual intent. According to the CIC web site work permits can take as little as 6 weeks for UK nationals.
If EE isn't an option (OP hasn't said what his score is yet), then it's a back up, but I wouldn't consider it given their timescales unless it's their only option.
Edit: here is the CIC link to info about the self-employed program, better to use that rather than a third party immigration consultant's website - https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...-employed.html
HTH.
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Re: Should you apply for TWP and then apply for PR from inside Canada?
Hi Christmas, I know it's possible to apply for a self-employed TWP as the details are on the CIC website about the LMIA not being applicable, just wondering then under what circumstances are such TWP issued?
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Re: Should you apply for TWP and then apply for PR from inside Canada?
It's not suitable for one man bands or those without lots of cash to invest, but does lead to a TWP without a LMIA/sponsoring employer. Another route for anybody interested in setting up their own business is the Start Up Visa, which may be an option for the OP. But before they explore other more complicated/expensive/longer routes like all of the above, I'd suggest they look at EE first, particularly if they want to have something lined up before their Oz visa expires as none of the other routes will be as quick or straightforward.
HTH.
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Re: Should you apply for TWP and then apply for PR from inside Canada?
Thanks so much Farmhand and christmasoompa,
I guess we would like to move sooner rather than later.
As a self employed applicant I could get a work permit and PR at a later stage if I understand correctly? Our score for EE is rather low because of our age. (275pts).
I haven’t gone through all possibilities but think applying as a self employed is our only option. Please advice.
Kind regards
I guess we would like to move sooner rather than later.
As a self employed applicant I could get a work permit and PR at a later stage if I understand correctly? Our score for EE is rather low because of our age. (275pts).
I haven’t gone through all possibilities but think applying as a self employed is our only option. Please advice.
Kind regards
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I guess we would like to move sooner rather than later.
As a self employed applicant I could get a work permit and PR at a later stage if I understand correctly? Our score for EE is rather low because of our age. (275pts).
I haven’t gone through all possibilities but think applying as a self employed is our only option. Please advice.
Kind regards
As a self employed applicant I could get a work permit and PR at a later stage if I understand correctly? Our score for EE is rather low because of our age. (275pts).
I haven’t gone through all possibilities but think applying as a self employed is our only option. Please advice.
Kind regards
I would also strongly suggest you check to see if you would be eligible for PR once there, as you may decide it's not worth moving if you can't stay permanently, and being on a Temp Work Permit isn't ideal with a family.
But there may be other options re: being self employed or setting up a business, which province are you hoping to move to, how much would you invest in a business and roughly how many Canadians would you look to hire?
Last edited by christmasoompa; Mar 25th 2018 at 5:28 pm.
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Re: Should you apply for TWP and then apply for PR from inside Canada?
We are thinking about settling in Victoria BC and yes I could set up a business and hire 2 or 3 Canadians as Assistant coaches, receptionist and/or Pro Shop Staff.
The initial investment would be around $50,000
I don't think that might be enough?!
The initial investment would be around $50,000
I don't think that might be enough?!