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Should I apply before taking IELTS test?

Old May 7th 2003, 10:26 am
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Diablo ²°°²
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Default Should I apply before taking IELTS test?

I'm applying for PR in Canada from the UK.

I have decided to take the IELTS test even though my native language is
English and I have always lived in the UK (thought it best to be on the safe
side!).

Can any experts tell me if they think it's worth me sending off my
application now, to get the ball rolling?

I'm due to take the IELTS test in about 3 weeks, it maybe CIC would give me
maximum points in English proficiency anyway without the test.

My only concern would be that if they didn't, would I lose the application
fees? Or would they just request that I take the test to back up my claim
for high proficiency in all areas of English?

If so, would my application process be slowed down because of this?

I'd be grateful for any advice,

Many Thanks,

Alison.
 
Old May 7th 2003, 1:57 pm
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Pmm
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Default Re: Should I apply before taking IELTS test?

Hi Allison

"Diablo ²°°²" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I'm applying for PR in Canada from the UK.
    > I have decided to take the IELTS test even though my native language is
    > English and I have always lived in the UK (thought it best to be on the
safe
    > side!).
    > Can any experts tell me if they think it's worth me sending off my
    > application now, to get the ball rolling?
    > I'm due to take the IELTS test in about 3 weeks, it maybe CIC would give
me
    > maximum points in English proficiency anyway without the test.
    > My only concern would be that if they didn't, would I lose the application
    > fees? Or would they just request that I take the test to back up my claim
    > for high proficiency in all areas of English?
    > If so, would my application process be slowed down because of this?
    > I'd be grateful for any advice,
    > Many Thanks,
    > Alison.

Its a joke, right? If not your just wasting your money on the ielts, since
your come from an English speaking country and education was in English.

PMM
 
Old May 7th 2003, 7:01 pm
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Diablo ²°°²
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Default Re: Should I apply before taking IELTS test?

No honestly, it's no joke!

I'm assuming that if my points are left for an immigration officer to decide
on my proficiency in English then there is a risk I won't be awarded enough
if I haven't provided the correct documentation.

It says on the CIC website if you're not taking the test you have to provide
certificates of schooling and references as proof of ability in English.

It has taken me months to get all my references sorted (I'm self-employed),
to have them re-written would take months again and I would also need to go
and have my school certificates certified, which would probably cost more
than taking the test!

Please advise on what I should do, should I cancel the test?

I have received so many different opinions on this subject, just not sure
which way to turn!

Thanks,

Alison.
"PMM" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Hi Allison

"Diablo ²°°²" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I'm applying for PR in Canada from the UK.
    > I have decided to take the IELTS test even though my native language is
    > English and I have always lived in the UK (thought it best to be on the
safe
    > side!).
    > Can any experts tell me if they think it's worth me sending off my
    > application now, to get the ball rolling?
    > I'm due to take the IELTS test in about 3 weeks, it maybe CIC would give
me
    > maximum points in English proficiency anyway without the test.
    > My only concern would be that if they didn't, would I lose the application
    > fees? Or would they just request that I take the test to back up my claim
    > for high proficiency in all areas of English?
    > If so, would my application process be slowed down because of this?
    > I'd be grateful for any advice,
    > Many Thanks,
    > Alison.

Its a joke, right? If not your just wasting your money on the ielts, since
your come from an English speaking country and education was in English.

PMM
 
Old May 8th 2003, 12:39 am
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pkjmet
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Default Re: Should I apply before taking IELTS test?

"Diablo ²°°²" wrote in message news:...
    > No honestly, it's no joke!
    >
    > I'm assuming that if my points are left for an immigration officer to decide
    > on my proficiency in English then there is a risk I won't be awarded enough
    > if I haven't provided the correct documentation.
    >
    > It says on the CIC website if you're not taking the test you have to provide
    > certificates of schooling and references as proof of ability in English.
    >
    > It has taken me months to get all my references sorted (I'm self-employed),
    > to have them re-written would take months again and I would also need to go
    > and have my school certificates certified, which would probably cost more
    > than taking the test!
    >
    > Please advise on what I should do, should I cancel the test?
    >
    > I have received so many different opinions on this subject, just not sure
    > which way to turn!
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Alison.
    > "PMM" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > Hi Allison
    >
    > "Diablo ²°°²" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > I'm applying for PR in Canada from the UK.
    > >
    > > I have decided to take the IELTS test even though my native language is
    > > English and I have always lived in the UK (thought it best to be on the
    > safe
    > > side!).
    > >
    > > Can any experts tell me if they think it's worth me sending off my
    > > application now, to get the ball rolling?
    > >
    > > I'm due to take the IELTS test in about 3 weeks, it maybe CIC would give
    > me
    > > maximum points in English proficiency anyway without the test.
    > >
    > > My only concern would be that if they didn't, would I lose the application
    > > fees? Or would they just request that I take the test to back up my claim
    > > for high proficiency in all areas of English?
    > >
    > > If so, would my application process be slowed down because of this?
    > >
    > > I'd be grateful for any advice,
    > >
    > > Many Thanks,
    > >
    > > Alison.
    >
    > Its a joke, right? If not your just wasting your money on the ielts, since
    > your come from an English speaking country and education was in English.
    >
    > PMM

If you were born, raised, educated and worked in England all your life
I would not waste time doing an IELTS. Merely make a statement in you
document package to this effect.

Jim Metcalfe
 
Old May 8th 2003, 7:27 am
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Diablo ²°°²
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Default Re: Should I apply before taking IELTS test?

Thanks Jim,

If CIC don't feel I have given enough documentation to award me 16 points
for language proficiency will they ask me to take the test?

I don't mind doing the test, but it does hold things up a bit! Would I lose
my application fee and have to re-apply if they want more proof? I would
rather pay and do the test than risk not having enough points from the
Immigration Officer who is awarding them.

Any more advice please.

Many Thanks,

Alison.
wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Diablo ²°°²" wrote in message
news:...
    > No honestly, it's no joke!
    > I'm assuming that if my points are left for an immigration officer to
decide
    > on my proficiency in English then there is a risk I won't be awarded
enough
    > if I haven't provided the correct documentation.
    > It says on the CIC website if you're not taking the test you have to
provide
    > certificates of schooling and references as proof of ability in English.
    > It has taken me months to get all my references sorted (I'm
self-employed),
    > to have them re-written would take months again and I would also need to
go
    > and have my school certificates certified, which would probably cost more
    > than taking the test!
    > Please advise on what I should do, should I cancel the test?
    > I have received so many different opinions on this subject, just not sure
    > which way to turn!
    > Thanks,
    > Alison.
    > "PMM" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > Hi Allison
    > "Diablo ²°°²" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > I'm applying for PR in Canada from the UK.
    > >
    > > I have decided to take the IELTS test even though my native language is
    > > English and I have always lived in the UK (thought it best to be on the
    > safe
    > > side!).
    > >
    > > Can any experts tell me if they think it's worth me sending off my
    > > application now, to get the ball rolling?
    > >
    > > I'm due to take the IELTS test in about 3 weeks, it maybe CIC would give
    > me
    > > maximum points in English proficiency anyway without the test.
    > >
    > > My only concern would be that if they didn't, would I lose the
application
    > > fees? Or would they just request that I take the test to back up my
claim
    > > for high proficiency in all areas of English?
    > >
    > > If so, would my application process be slowed down because of this?
    > >
    > > I'd be grateful for any advice,
    > >
    > > Many Thanks,
    > >
    > > Alison.
    > Its a joke, right? If not your just wasting your money on the ielts,
since
    > your come from an English speaking country and education was in English.
    > PMM

If you were born, raised, educated and worked in England all your life
I would not waste time doing an IELTS. Merely make a statement in you
document package to this effect.

Jim Metcalfe
 
Old May 8th 2003, 8:21 am
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You absolutely don't need the IELTS test - like many others - just make sure that your alternative documentation is adequate.
In my opinion, it would not make any difference if you send now your documentation without the IELTS results. The application will not be processed for while and in meantime you can submit additional information as needed. You seem to have a very low risk tolerance level - which I can understand – but not support. If you want to have a absolute bullet proof application - that does not exists. It would be probably more consistent with you to wait for IELTS. but that is not needed.
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Old May 9th 2003, 12:29 am
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pkjmet
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Default Re: Should I apply before taking IELTS test?

"Diablo ²°°²" wrote in message news:...
    > Thanks Jim,
    >
    > If CIC don't feel I have given enough documentation to award me 16 points
    > for language proficiency will they ask me to take the test?
    >
    > I don't mind doing the test, but it does hold things up a bit! Would I lose
    > my application fee and have to re-apply if they want more proof? I would
    > rather pay and do the test than risk not having enough points from the
    > Immigration Officer who is awarding them.
    >
    > Any more advice please.
    >
    > Many Thanks,
    >
    > Alison.
    > wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > "Diablo ²°°²" wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > No honestly, it's no joke!
    > >
    > > I'm assuming that if my points are left for an immigration officer to
    > decide
    > > on my proficiency in English then there is a risk I won't be awarded
    > enough
    > > if I haven't provided the correct documentation.
    > >
    > > It says on the CIC website if you're not taking the test you have to
    > provide
    > > certificates of schooling and references as proof of ability in English.
    > >
    > > It has taken me months to get all my references sorted (I'm
    > self-employed),
    > > to have them re-written would take months again and I would also need to
    > go
    > > and have my school certificates certified, which would probably cost more
    > > than taking the test!
    > >
    > > Please advise on what I should do, should I cancel the test?
    > >
    > > I have received so many different opinions on this subject, just not sure
    > > which way to turn!
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > >
    > > Alison.
    > > "PMM" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hi Allison
    > >
    > > "Diablo ²°°²" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > I'm applying for PR in Canada from the UK.
    > > >
    > > > I have decided to take the IELTS test even though my native language is
    > > > English and I have always lived in the UK (thought it best to be on the
    > safe
    > > > side!).
    > > >
    > > > Can any experts tell me if they think it's worth me sending off my
    > > > application now, to get the ball rolling?
    > > >
    > > > I'm due to take the IELTS test in about 3 weeks, it maybe CIC would give
    > me
    > > > maximum points in English proficiency anyway without the test.
    > > >
    > > > My only concern would be that if they didn't, would I lose the
    > application
    > > > fees? Or would they just request that I take the test to back up my
    > claim
    > > > for high proficiency in all areas of English?
    > > >
    > > > If so, would my application process be slowed down because of this?
    > > >
    > > > I'd be grateful for any advice,
    > > >
    > > > Many Thanks,
    > > >
    > > > Alison.
    > >
    > > Its a joke, right? If not your just wasting your money on the ielts,
    > since
    > > your come from an English speaking country and education was in English.
    > >
    > > PMM
    >
    > If you were born, raised, educated and worked in England all your life
    > I would not waste time doing an IELTS. Merely make a statement in you
    > document package to this effect.
    >
    > Jim Metcalfe

Not knowing all the details of your application I cannot speculate on
the outcome of the application but I would be confident of your 16
points if you were born educated and worked in England. I would attach
a covering letter written in the best Queens English to make your
point about your proficiency in the English language.

Jim Metcalfe
 

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