Self-employed change of direction

Old Feb 21st 2004, 10:09 am
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We returned yesterday from Ontario and have found a farm which we have put in an offer on. The offer has been accepted and we are going to proceed with the purchase of it regardless of whether we are successful with our PR. If we are unfortunate with our PR application then this property will be used as a vacation home and we will lease the large amount of land to a neighbouring farmer.

The question I have is that when we sent off our application 10 months ago we were trying to purchase another farm which was a completely different set-up to this one, therefore our application was based on what we would do with this property. That farm purchase "fell through" so we were cautious about getting into the same situation of being held to randsome again. This latest property is far bigger than the original one and we would be looking to farm it in a completely different way. The first farm would have been a horse farm but this latest one would involve having beef cattle and haymaking. We are 10 months into our Immigration process and I am unsure as to whether to write to the CHC in London and inform them of our change of direction on the farming front or whether to just keep quiet and wait to see where it goes from here. Horses are a bit of a grey area as they are regarded as bloodstock rather than livestock in some provinces. The other thing is that the first farm was in BC and the one we are buying is in Ontario. Will that make a difference under the Self-employed category?

Thank you, Tia

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Old Feb 22nd 2004, 3:47 am
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just leave it as is for now,,,,its still the same category of
"self-employment",,,,everyone knows that deals fall through and your intent
remains the same,,,if they ask,,,then tell them

good luck



"Tiaribbon" <member21048@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    > We returned yesterday from Ontario and have found a farm which we have
    > put in an offer on. The offer has been accepted and we are going to
    > proceed with the purchase of it regardless of whether we are successful
    > with our PR. If we are unfortunate with our PR application then this
    > property will be used as a vacation home and we will lease the large
    > amount of land to a neighbouring farmer.
    > The question I have is that
    > when we sent off our application 10 months ago we were trying to
    > purchase another farm which was a completely different set-up to this
    > one, therefore our application was based on what we would do with this
    > property. That farm purchase "fell through" so we were cautious about
    > getting into the same situation of being held to randsome again. This
    > latest property is far bigger than the original one and we would be
    > looking to farm it in a completely different way. The first farm would
    > have been a horse farm but this latest one would involve having beef
    > cattle and haymaking. We are 10 months into our Immigration process and
    > I am unsure as to whether to write to the CHC in London and inform them
    > of our change of direction on the farming front or whether to just keep
    > quiet and wait to see where it goes from here. Horses are a bit of a
    > grey area as they are regarded as bloodstock rather than livestock in
    > some provinces. The other thing is that the first farm was in BC and
    > the one we are buying is in Ontario. Will that make a difference under
    > the Self-employed category?
    > Thank you, Tia
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Old Feb 22nd 2004, 4:51 am
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Thanks for that. I didn't think that it was necessary to inform CHC but I read somewhere on this forum that if you apply through the business category that you must go to the province that you stated in your application. That was why I was confused.

The other relevant point was the fact that horses are seen differently from cattle and they may have an issue with us using horses as the main part of the farm when the plan now is to have cattle and hay as our main product.
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Old Feb 23rd 2004, 12:39 am
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I do not think it is necessary to advise the CHC London regarding your plans
but it would not do hurt your alication. It would indicate to them that you
are serious about your plans to immigrate to Canada. A letter of explanation
and details of the farm including an copy of the offer to purchase should
suffice.

Given low cattle prices with the border partly closed to Cdn live cattle I
find it interesting to see you bought a beef operation.

Good Luck

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"Tiaribbon" <member21048@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    > We returned yesterday from Ontario and have found a farm which we have
    > put in an offer on. The offer has been accepted and we are going to
    > proceed with the purchase of it regardless of whether we are successful
    > with our PR. If we are unfortunate with our PR application then this
    > property will be used as a vacation home and we will lease the large
    > amount of land to a neighbouring farmer.
    > The question I have is that
    > when we sent off our application 10 months ago we were trying to
    > purchase another farm which was a completely different set-up to this
    > one, therefore our application was based on what we would do with this
    > property. That farm purchase "fell through" so we were cautious about
    > getting into the same situation of being held to randsome again. This
    > latest property is far bigger than the original one and we would be
    > looking to farm it in a completely different way. The first farm would
    > have been a horse farm but this latest one would involve having beef
    > cattle and haymaking. We are 10 months into our Immigration process and
    > I am unsure as to whether to write to the CHC in London and inform them
    > of our change of direction on the farming front or whether to just keep
    > quiet and wait to see where it goes from here. Horses are a bit of a
    > grey area as they are regarded as bloodstock rather than livestock in
    > some provinces. The other thing is that the first farm was in BC and
    > the one we are buying is in Ontario. Will that make a difference under
    > the Self-employed category?
    > Thank you, Tia
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
 
Old Feb 23rd 2004, 1:53 am
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Jim,

Thank you for your response. If we do decide to send the extra information do you think it will slow down the process of our application? Can you clarify that we will not be penalized under the self-employed category for changing Provinces?

Yes I realise that it may seem strange to Canadians that anyone would choose to go into farming cattle, but don't forget that we in the UK had BSE on a far bigger scale (or at least it was made into this by some incompetent fools) and we lived through it. There is light at the end of the tunnel and Canada will survive this in the long-term.

Again, thanks for your comments.
Tia
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Old Feb 23rd 2004, 11:09 am
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I do not think you would be penalized unless you are applying under PNP
(Provincial Nominee Program).


"Tiaribbon" <member21048@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    > Jim,
    > Thank you for your response. If we do decide to send the extra
    > information do you think it will slow down the process of our
    > application? Can you clarify that we will not be penalized under the
    > self-employed category for changing Provinces?
    > Yes I realise that it
    > may seem strange to Canadians that anyone would choose to go into
    > farming cattle, but don't forget that we in the UK had BSE on a far
    > bigger scale (or at least it was made into this by some incompetent
    > fools) and we lived through it. There is light at the end of the tunnel
    > and Canada will survive this in the long-term.
    > Again, thanks for your
    > comments.
    > Tia
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Old Apr 8th 2004, 8:31 am
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You shouold update the visa office on the purchase and your new plans.
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"Tiaribbon" <member21048@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    > We returned yesterday from Ontario and have found a farm which we have
    > put in an offer on. The offer has been accepted and we are going to
    > proceed with the purchase of it regardless of whether we are successful
    > with our PR. If we are unfortunate with our PR application then this
    > property will be used as a vacation home and we will lease the large
    > amount of land to a neighbouring farmer.
    > The question I have is that
    > when we sent off our application 10 months ago we were trying to
    > purchase another farm which was a completely different set-up to this
    > one, therefore our application was based on what we would do with this
    > property. That farm purchase "fell through" so we were cautious about
    > getting into the same situation of being held to randsome again. This
    > latest property is far bigger than the original one and we would be
    > looking to farm it in a completely different way. The first farm would
    > have been a horse farm but this latest one would involve having beef
    > cattle and haymaking. We are 10 months into our Immigration process and
    > I am unsure as to whether to write to the CHC in London and inform them
    > of our change of direction on the farming front or whether to just keep
    > quiet and wait to see where it goes from here. Horses are a bit of a
    > grey area as they are regarded as bloodstock rather than livestock in
    > some provinces. The other thing is that the first farm was in BC and
    > the one we are buying is in Ontario. Will that make a difference under
    > the Self-employed category?
    > Thank you, Tia
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
 
Old Apr 9th 2004, 10:46 pm
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Originally posted by Jim Humphries
You shouold update the visa office on the purchase and your new plans.
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Yes I was beginning to think the same. I was just reluctant to do so without further advice as I have heard that if you start sending updates to CHC then they have a habit of putting your file to the bottom. We are 10 months down the line now and were hoping for some movement soon but we are resigned to the possibility that we will not be successful until summer 2005 now so even if we are moved down it would be a blow, but not the end of the world........although we would LOVE to have PR by summer 2004!

Thank you for your advice. Could you elaborate on why we should update them please?
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