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Old Jan 5th 2019, 11:50 am
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Hi looking for advice. My husband is just starting with Police Scotland but has been a Special Constable for over a year. I am currently in my 3rd year of Primary teaching. We have been discussing moving to Canada within the next 5 years. I looked into a teacher exchange to trial it for a year but unfortunately it seems they have stopped doing exchanges from uk. We have been looking at moving to Ontario but it obviously depends on where the jobs are. I have a lot of family who live mostly in Saskatchewan and some in Nova Scotia. Does anyone have suggestions best way to move forward?
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The first thing is to determine if you are eligible to emigrate to canada. The following website provides the information to determine this. https://www.canada.ca/en/services/im...tizenship.html

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I have done the initial express entry form and it said I would be approved which I know isn't a guarantee. That was looking at it through me more than my husband it I understand they are not that short on teachers but saw online they might be shortage for police.
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I have done the initial express entry form and it said I would be approved which I know isn't a guarantee. That was looking at it through me more than my husband it I understand they are not that short on teachers but saw online they might be shortage for police.
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That means you’re eligible to enter the pool of EE applicants, which is great, but only the first step.

Once in the pool only those scoring the highest are selected and invited to apply for PR. You’ll need above approx 450 to be in with a chance and can check your score here - Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) tool: skilled immigrants (Express Entry)

if if you’ve not already read it yet, here’s the Wiki article on teaching - https://britishexpats.com/wiki/Teaching_in_Canada

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Thank you. Very useful reading. Do you know what the Provincial or territorial nomination means? It's difficult as under my name we would get more points as I did uni but obviously don't really need teachers. But if they were short on police less points on my husband's name.
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Unfortunately you both work in jobs that Canada has no shortage of and difficult to find jobs in those lines of work unless you both fancy a career change. Not trying to put you off but that's the reality.
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Ha I'm only in my 3rd year of teaching and he's just starting in the police so not fancying a career change yet. Might look at temp residence and work permit to get some Canadian work experience. Thank you for the help.
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Ha I'm only in my 3rd year of teaching and he's just starting in the police so not fancying a career change yet. Might look at temp residence and work permit to get some Canadian work experience. Thank you for the help.
Going that way would probably be more difficult than applying for PR under EE as you are both in a career that jobs in those areas are extremely hard to find either as a temporary resident or new permanent resident.
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Even Canadian trained teachers do not usually get a permanent position on graduation with all the right credentials. They go on the Teacher On Call (TOC) list, and some may be on that list for quite a few years .................. I have a relation who was on TOC lists for a total of 17 years before they got a permanent position. They never moved out of the province in which they were born and educated, but still found it hard. Even moving from one province to another may put you on the TOC list unless you have been recruited.

The only teachers that are in high demand at the moment in many areas of Canada (not all) are French Immersion and special needs, but even then foreign trained teachers have to satisfy the educational requirements of the College of Teachers and Education Department in their province of choice .............. these requirements may not be the same in every province!

As for police, it seems that most police forces are insisting that recruits be either Canadian citizens or Permanent Residents, sometimes with a required length of residency in Canada.

I suggest you google school boards in your province of choice, and police forces in your city of choice, and see what they say.
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Thank you. Very useful reading. Do you know what the Provincial or territorial nomination means? It's difficult as under my name we would get more points as I did uni but obviously don't really need teachers. But if they were short on police less points on my husband's name.
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In order to teach in any of the Provinces in Canada you are required to be Registered and certified to teach in the Province - Teaching is a Regulated Profession.. so your first step would need to be determining which Province you are most likely to a) want to move to and b) find jobs in and then apply to the Provincial Governing Body - for Ontario, for instance, it's the College of Teachers - https://www.oct.ca/becoming-a-teache...cated-teachers for BC https://www.bcteacherregulation.ca/t...Graduates.aspx (each Province has it's own Governing Body)

Provincial Nomination is where you are nominated for Permanent Residency by the Province (PNP) - something that is unlikely to happen for Teachers nor Police Officers as there is no shortage of either in Canada.

Police Officers are required to be Permanent Residents - and for some Provinces / jobs to be Canadian Citizens. Many experienced UK Police Officers end up having to work in security or similar as Police work is hard to break into, with many wanting to join the various police forces. We have a forum for Police Officers that you might find of use

https://britishexpats.com/forum/police-79/

You would need to be prepared to explore other types of employment - at least for a year or two, or be prepared to only work a few days or weeks at a time.. it won't be easy but if you feel it would be worth it, go for it!


Originally Posted by Emmajblack
Ha I'm only in my 3rd year of teaching and he's just starting in the police so not fancying a career change yet. Might look at temp residence and work permit to get some Canadian work experience. Thank you for the help.
You're unlikely to be able to get temporary work permits as teachers nor Police Officers - Teachers there is no shortage of, unless you have a specialised subject by any chance? In order to get a work permit the employer has to apply for an LMIA - which means they would have to prove that there isn't a Canadian Citizen or Permanent Resident who is suitable for the job - something that isn't going to happen in the teaching or police industries...

You don't happen to be under 31 or under 35 if of Irish decent by any chance? If you were (either of you) you could apply for an International Experience Canada 2 year open work permit... it's a lottery and you would likely need to be prepared to work in any skilled job once here, not necessarily what you are trained for. As has been said, many Canadian teachers spend years on the temporary lists - one I personally know of had to travel to a City several hours away just to get a few hours of work for 2 to 3 days a week!


It won't be easy but it's not insurmountable if you are determined enough - but you will need to have plenty of savings to get you through the lean times..


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