Romanian engineer is assimilate to Canadian engineer?
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Hi,
My husband graduated (BAs), in 1994, the University of Polytechnic from Bucharest
like Mechanical Engineer. But in 1997 he followed a training course, organized by
Training Center in Informatics from Romania (recognized by Romanian Ministry of
Education and Research) and he graduated like system engineer. From 1997 my husband
have worked in IT field, like system engineer, or customer support engineer, so he
have a strong knowledge (more than 4 years) in network computers (Windows NT Server,
Windows 2000 Server, UNIX, SOLARIS, Linux etc.).
We want to know if this new qualification of him is recognized in Canada, or he has
to assimilate Romanian Diploma to Canadian Diploma (sustaining a new exam)? Or,
generally, Canadian authorities recognize “engineers” from Romania or
they have to sustain another exams there?
I heard different versions regarding this, so we want an official answer.
Thanks a lot for your replay.
With regards, Marinela
My husband graduated (BAs), in 1994, the University of Polytechnic from Bucharest
like Mechanical Engineer. But in 1997 he followed a training course, organized by
Training Center in Informatics from Romania (recognized by Romanian Ministry of
Education and Research) and he graduated like system engineer. From 1997 my husband
have worked in IT field, like system engineer, or customer support engineer, so he
have a strong knowledge (more than 4 years) in network computers (Windows NT Server,
Windows 2000 Server, UNIX, SOLARIS, Linux etc.).
We want to know if this new qualification of him is recognized in Canada, or he has
to assimilate Romanian Diploma to Canadian Diploma (sustaining a new exam)? Or,
generally, Canadian authorities recognize “engineers” from Romania or
they have to sustain another exams there?
I heard different versions regarding this, so we want an official answer.
Thanks a lot for your replay.
With regards, Marinela
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Usually people get hired for what they really know or for what they are capable of
doing and less for the diplomas / degrees they hold.
If he intends to work as computer engineer he does not need to hold adegree. This
occupation is not regulated in Canada.
So the answer to your question would be no. No need for diploma.
But he must be prepared for the worse as the IT market has a dramatic slowdown for
the last 12 months and with no Canadian he will have a very tough time to find a job.
With thousands of people being laid off all over the place, hiring companies receive
now hundreds of resumes for positions that were hard to fill 1 or 2 years ago. Right
now the market is saturated with lots of IT people made overnight. In the mean time
the jobs are not so many anymore in IT.
Take care. JS
[email protected] (Marinela)
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doing and less for the diplomas / degrees they hold.
If he intends to work as computer engineer he does not need to hold adegree. This
occupation is not regulated in Canada.
So the answer to your question would be no. No need for diploma.
But he must be prepared for the worse as the IT market has a dramatic slowdown for
the last 12 months and with no Canadian he will have a very tough time to find a job.
With thousands of people being laid off all over the place, hiring companies receive
now hundreds of resumes for positions that were hard to fill 1 or 2 years ago. Right
now the market is saturated with lots of IT people made overnight. In the mean time
the jobs are not so many anymore in IT.
Take care. JS
[email protected] (Marinela)
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"Marinela" wrote:
> My husband graduated (BAs), in 1994, from the Polytechnic University of
> Bucharest as a Mechanical Engineer. But in 1997 he pursued a training course .
> . . and he graduated as a system engineer. Since 1997, my husband has worked in
> the IT field as a system engineer or customer support engineer
> . . . . We want to know if this new qualification of his is recognized in
> Canada . . . .
Short answer: His "engineer" designation will =not= be recognized in Canada -- but
this probably doesn't matter, because computer profes- sionals in Canada are not
normally expected to be "engineers".
Longer answer:
There are at least two issues to consider here.
FIRST: "Engineers" in Canada are regulated by professional engineering societies in
the various provinces (and territories). Legally, no one can work as an "engineer" in
Canada unless he/she has been licensed as a "professional engineer" (abbreviated
"P.Eng.") in his/her province.
Engineering degrees or professional certificates from other countries are =not=
automatically recognized in Canada. An engineer coming to Canada from Romania, or
from any other country, would need to undergo a program of supervised work and
qualifying examinations in Canada before he/she can be licensed as a P.Eng.
However . . .
SECOND: It is =not= necessary (or even normally expected) to be an "engineer" in
order to work in the computer industry in Canada. Most Canadian computer programmers,
system analysts, and support specialists do =not= have P.Eng. licences.
Computer-related job titles in Canada usually do =not= include the word "engineer".
(At one time, many jobs in the computer field were labelled "software engineer" or
the like in Canada, but most of these positions were renamed a few years ago after
the professional engineering societies objected and threatened to take legal action.)
Rich Wales [email protected] http://www.webcom.com/richw/
*NOTE: I've lived in both Canada and the US and have dual citizenship.
*DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer, professional immigration consultant,
or consular officer. My comments are for discussion purposes only and
are not intended to be relied upon as legal or professional advice.
> My husband graduated (BAs), in 1994, from the Polytechnic University of
> Bucharest as a Mechanical Engineer. But in 1997 he pursued a training course .
> . . and he graduated as a system engineer. Since 1997, my husband has worked in
> the IT field as a system engineer or customer support engineer
> . . . . We want to know if this new qualification of his is recognized in
> Canada . . . .
Short answer: His "engineer" designation will =not= be recognized in Canada -- but
this probably doesn't matter, because computer profes- sionals in Canada are not
normally expected to be "engineers".
Longer answer:
There are at least two issues to consider here.
FIRST: "Engineers" in Canada are regulated by professional engineering societies in
the various provinces (and territories). Legally, no one can work as an "engineer" in
Canada unless he/she has been licensed as a "professional engineer" (abbreviated
"P.Eng.") in his/her province.
Engineering degrees or professional certificates from other countries are =not=
automatically recognized in Canada. An engineer coming to Canada from Romania, or
from any other country, would need to undergo a program of supervised work and
qualifying examinations in Canada before he/she can be licensed as a P.Eng.
However . . .
SECOND: It is =not= necessary (or even normally expected) to be an "engineer" in
order to work in the computer industry in Canada. Most Canadian computer programmers,
system analysts, and support specialists do =not= have P.Eng. licences.
Computer-related job titles in Canada usually do =not= include the word "engineer".
(At one time, many jobs in the computer field were labelled "software engineer" or
the like in Canada, but most of these positions were renamed a few years ago after
the professional engineering societies objected and threatened to take legal action.)
Rich Wales [email protected] http://www.webcom.com/richw/
*NOTE: I've lived in both Canada and the US and have dual citizenship.
*DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer, professional immigration consultant,
or consular officer. My comments are for discussion purposes only and
are not intended to be relied upon as legal or professional advice.
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In a similar note, a few years ago the company I work for, a Canadian subsidiary of a
US company, attempted to standardize job titles in both the US and Canada, and they
ran into this very problem. One of the titles used in the US company was "Network
Engineer". The US HR department was dumbfounded when the Canadian company's Legal and
HR departments told them that, in Canada, they couldn't use a title with the word
"engineer" unless the job required an engineering degree. The US company proceeded to
change the US title to "Senior Network Specialist", but that caused grumbling by the
US staff who felt that it was a step down from "Network Engineer". They eventually
abandoned the whole project of standardizing titles.
Stephen Gallagher
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In a similar note, a few years ago the company I work for, a Canadian subsidiary of a
US company, attempted to standardize job titles in both the US and Canada, and they
ran into this very problem. One of the titles used in the US company was "Network
Engineer". The US HR department was dumbfounded when the Canadian company's Legal and
HR departments told them that, in Canada, they couldn't use a title with the word
"engineer" unless the job required an engineering degree. The US company proceeded to
change the US title to "Senior Network Specialist", but that caused grumbling by the
US staff who felt that it was a step down from "Network Engineer". They eventually
abandoned the whole project of standardizing titles.
Stephen Gallagher