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Re: Ridiculously long process!!!
Originally Posted by GOBLIN
In places where CHC's take almost 5 years to process applications, more and more people are opting for Uk and Australia because of much quicker processing times.
Australia's immigration policies are much more specific than Canada's. But it is true that a hypothetical immigrant who meets both country's requirements would generally be better advised to go for Australia rather than waiting in a seemingly endless queue to get to Canada. Jeremy |
Re: Ridiculously long process!!!
Originally Posted by JAJ
However one can only 'opt' for Australia if one qualifies for Australia.
Australia's immigration policies are much more specific than Canada's. But it is true that a hypothetical immigrant who meets both country's requirements would generally be better advised to go for Australia rather than waiting in a seemingly endless queue to get to Canada. Jeremy |
Re: Ridiculously long process!!!
That's interesting!
What is SIR? It is news for me. I had tried self-assessment for Australia a couple of years ago, and I could not pass. May be I should try again. Netra
Originally Posted by GOBLIN
I agree with you 100% Jeremy,and now with the SIR visa where you have to score only 100 points ( bonus 10 granted to everyone) I think a lot of people who qualify for Canada's skilled economic category would also qualify for the new SIR visa. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the entire process for SIR can be completed in 6 months approx ( including skills assessment).
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Re: Ridiculously long process!!!
Originally Posted by netranasik
That's interesting!
What is SIR? It is news for me. I had tried self-assessment for Australia a couple of years ago, and I could not pass. May be I should try again. Netra I think my mind has become what is called as 'conditioned reflex' the very thought of Canada exites me as a challenge, which I must overcome, to think of something else is simply shying away from this challenge. So the main point is Long Process, and it's remedy, if any one else is affected or have views on solution should come out openly. |
Re: Ridiculously long process!!!
Originally Posted by GOBLIN
Any country with an open door immigration policy needs to have quotas and limits.The point here is not whether canada should have quotas or not. Even the point that politicians should or should not allow more immigrants is irrelevant.
The point here is that why does'nt Canada have standard processing times for apllicants who have applied under the same category regardless of nationality or region.( keeping in mind the so called suspected fraud cases that may need extra verification or people with police records who may require security checks etc). In places where CHC's take almost 5 years to process applications, more and more people are opting for Uk and Australia because of much quicker processing times. The people who have family/friends in Canada or people who want to be close to the United States have no other option but to endure the long processing times. Maybe the low passmark is to be blamed or it is the annual quotas or the politicians or the IRPA or fraudulent applications or it is bigfoot, darth vader, mojo jo jo, etc etc...... whatever the reason. The fact is that some of us have to wait 5 years to get our darned PR's, can't we even hope that CIC do something about it??? but in the defense i am wondering i think mr miller said that 12560 visa wil be issued to uk this year does that include family class or is that only skilled worker? And also i imagine that at all chc's family class will be a higher proiorty than a skilled worker so the visa officer might start working on a skilled workers file then have to start on a family class then finish the family class that can take a couple of months and then resume with skilled workers as they are are and never will be a high priority as they are citiziens in there own country and also have jobs and living. It is most frustrating :mad: for induviduals wishing to immigrate that there is no clear solution except maybe better communication with the applicant even a letter every 6 months explaining where in the process they are as e-client is not exactly reliable matty266 |
Re: Ridiculously long process!!!
Originally Posted by netranasik
That's interesting!
What is SIR? It is news for me. I had tried self-assessment for Australia a couple of years ago, and I could not pass. May be I should try again. Netra Go back to http://www.immi.gov.au and take a look at things again. The Australian system has changed a lot since a few years ago. However you should ask questions about Australia (if interested) on the Australia forum. Jeremy |
Re: Ridiculously long process!!!
Well what was feared has come true as is evident by the thread by Mr Miller,
that there is an unwritten official communique to certain posts in the world to go slow, inspite of the fact that adequate staff and interest in work is there. It may be called as regionalism, what I had earlier reffered to. This brings us back to square one. What I had said indirectly has now been documented and made public by the press. It is the worst type of discrimination. So the motion started is relevant, that it is indeed a 'Ridiculously Long Process', and please the applicants from London or Buffalo should not heave a sigh of relief, as we should not be selfish, but be accomodative for the concerns of all. If at all, all are equal. Now the second option, as suggested by some, of putting up imaginary barriers by raising/lowering/raising the points to reject/accept applicants as per suitability is all the more absurd. Remember all applicants apply with faith in a suitably reliable and working system, such haphazard actions will draw more flak and become totally discrimnationary. What is required now is a damage control exercise by the Government to set the house in order and remove the stigma of 'ism' attached with it. For this start the cases on a level to reach time frames which are almost equal the world over. |
Re: Ridiculously long process!!!
Has anyone on this forum been affected by the "substitution of evaluation" clause either positively or negatively. If yes then please post here as it would be of much interest.
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Re: Ridiculously long process!!!
Originally Posted by samon
Well what was feared has come true as is evident by the thread by Mr Miller,
that there is an unwritten official communique to certain posts in the world to go slow, inspite of the fact that adequate staff and interest in work is there. It may be called as regionalism, what I had earlier reffered to. This brings us back to square one. What I had said indirectly has now been documented and made public by the press. It is the worst type of discrimination. So the motion started is relevant, that it is indeed a 'Ridiculously Long Process', and please the applicants from London or Buffalo should not heave a sigh of relief, as we should not be selfish, but be accomodative for the concerns of all. If at all, all are equal. Now the second option, as suggested by some, of putting up imaginary barriers by raising/lowering/raising the points to reject/accept applicants as per suitability is all the more absurd. Remember all applicants apply with faith in a suitably reliable and working system, such haphazard actions will draw more flak and become totally discrimnationary. What is required now is a damage control exercise by the Government to set the house in order and remove the stigma of 'ism' attached with it. For this start the cases on a level to reach time frames which are almost equal the world over. I have this feeling that there are going to be no more of those " reverse racism ", " what did you accuse me of " comments anymore. :) |
Re: Ridiculously long process!!!
Originally Posted by GOBLIN
Hi Samy
I have this feeling that there are going to be no more of those " reverse racism ", " what did you accuse me of " comments anymore. :) No, Goblin....like it or not, racism is universal.....it is not just a 'white' thing, as you are trying to suggest. African tribalism, the Indian caste system, and who knows what other types of intolerance / racism that exist in this world are, unfortunately, all part of being 'human'. We are all equally guilty, and if you think otherwise, then you have no doubt created much of this intolerance yourself. It is natural that Canada, as a 'white' country, will try to give preference to people from 'white' countries......the fact that the majority of their immigrants are coming from China and India proves that the Canadian government are NOT racist, as you are trying to suggest - quite the opposite, in fact. You should just accept that Canada are doing their best to ensure a fair chance for all.....and if you have to wait, then so what? We all have to wait - why are you different? |
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[QUOTE=Scouse]Now where the hell did that come from?? The caste system possibly makes India the worst racists of them all, and that is aimed at their own people!!
Quite true Scouse, and I will be very honest as I'm one of those who has always hated this in any form. We in India discriminate at a number of things that will beat all world records. It is [B]not just caste[/B], let me innumerate, Religion. Region(North India, South India) . Language( No two states have the same language, so people are referred to by their state as Punjabi, Gujrati or Bihari etc). Colour( From black to brown to fair and very few white). But still what has baffled the world is the great [B]'Unity in Diversity'[/B]. All this is done jokingly, as Indians are perhaps the most tolerant society in the world. Very God fearing and non violent. We cherish our great heritage in the many forms of spirituality prevalent here. It can be Budhism or Jainism or Sikhism or Hinduism or Christianity or Muslim. Tempers may run high at times between two communities, but the spiritual leaders or Gurus as are commonly called intervene to pacify. The spiritual leaders(Gurus) are usually wise old men. Indeed discrimination in any form is bad. I condemn it out right. I wish the concept of 'Guru' could be made universal. |
Re: Ridiculously long process!!!
[QUOTE=samon]
Originally Posted by Scouse
Now where the hell did that come from?? The caste system possibly makes India the worst racists of them all, and that is aimed at their own people!!
Quite true Scouse, and I will be very honest as I'm one of those who has always hated this in any form. We in India discriminate at a number of things that will beat all world records. It is [B]not just caste[/B], let me innumerate, Religion. Region(North India, South India) . Language( No two states have the same language, so people are referred to by their state as Punjabi, Gujrati or Bihari etc). Colour( From black to brown to fair and very few white). But still what has baffled the world is the great [B]'Unity in Diversity'[/B]. All this is done jokingly, as Indians are perhaps the most tolerant society in the world. Very God fearing and non violent. We cherish our great heritage in the many forms of spirituality prevalent here. It can be Budhism or Jainism or Sikhism or Hinduism or Christianity or Muslim. Tempers may run high at times between two communities, but the spiritual leaders or Gurus as are commonly called intervene to pacify. The spiritual leaders(Gurus) are usually wise old men. Indeed discrimination in any form is bad. I condemn it out right. I wish the concept of 'Guru' could be made universal. Hi Samy... I am an Indian living in USA and hopefully move to Canada in few months. What's done jokingly? Are you talking about discriminating people based on caste or disciminating women or killing people beacuse they are from a different religion? Are these things look like joke to you? If yes, you are the biggest hypocrite of all. Don't talk about spiritual leaders here. They are the main reason for discrimination. Let's talk about the problems honestly. Don't try to put spin on everything. -NS |
Re: Ridiculously long process!!!
[QUOTE=NathanS]
Originally Posted by samon
Hi Samy... I am an Indian living in USA and hopefully move to Canada in few months. What's done jokingly? Are you talking about discriminating people based on caste or disciminating women or killing people beacuse they are from a different religion? Are these things look like joke to you? If yes, you are the biggest hypocrite of all. Don't talk about spiritual leaders here. They are the main reason for discrimination. Let's talk about the problems honestly. Don't try to put spin on everything. -NS You have an unrealistic picture of India, as I have said it's diversity is a mystery more complicated than the origin of the universe. Please don't mix the spiritual Gurus with the Teahers in Fundanentalist institutions. Guru is a person who gives spiritual solace, tolerance and rids the mind of worldly tensions, as through meditation or yoga. The concept catching the fancy of the world. These people have nothing to do with religion. Religious intolerance is bad, due mainly to misguided people who take preaching from masqueraded Godmen, and India has bled a lot due to them. This is something against which the world is uniting. Gender bias is due to illiteracy in many parts of India , dowary is the main culprit. Slowly this trend is on the decline due to falling female to male ratio. Caste discrimination, has become punishable as per the Indian Penal Code. We are used to making jokes at each others caste. Say greedy Bania, clever Brahmin , a stuborn Jat/sikh or a nutty christian. The book stores are flooded with jokes on a particular community. This is not hypocricy is it? Again as I had said at the end that I am dead against any form of discrimination in any part of the world. It was more in the context of discrimination by CIC against certain Centers in a certain region of the world. This has led to unwarranted delays in processing of their cases. will you be raising your voice against this type of discrimination?? Probably not because you have applied from USA. ;) |
Re: Ridiculously long process!!!
Originally Posted by Scouse
Now where the hell did that come from?? The caste system possibly makes India the worst racists of them all, and that is aimed at their own people!!
No, Goblin....like it or not, racism is universal.....it is not just a 'white' thing, as you are trying to suggest. African tribalism, the Indian caste system, and who knows what other types of intolerance / racism that exist in this world are, unfortunately, all part of being 'human'. We are all equally guilty, and if you think otherwise, then you have no doubt created much of this intolerance yourself. It is natural that Canada, as a 'white' country, will try to give preference to people from 'white' countries......the fact that the majority of their immigrants are coming from China and India proves that the Canadian government are NOT racist, as you are trying to suggest - quite the opposite, in fact. You should just accept that Canada are doing their best to ensure a fair chance for all.....and if you have to wait, then so what? We all have to wait - why are you different? First of all I don't like people putting words in my mouth. I am not trying to suggest the the Canadian government is racist. Try to understand what the post is about and then respond. if you cannot understand, pls do not respond. We all have to wait - why are you different? I will still answer that question for you one last time Many people have to wait for almost 5 years. That is probably three years more than you will have to, that is the difference!!!!!!!!!! if that is not the case and even you have to wait as long as 5 yrs , then please feel free to speak out! |
Re: Ridiculously long process!!!
This thread is not meant to be about racism. There have been posts about discrimination but why people equate that with racism, is beyond my understanding. I refuse to be dragged into a senseless arguements on irrelevent,useless topics. Please understand what is being said and post responsibly.
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