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REFUSAL LETTER - HELP ANYONE - PLEASE

REFUSAL LETTER - HELP ANYONE - PLEASE

Old Nov 16th 2007, 7:21 am
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its very sad mate but dont worry i m sure u will get out of this by appeal, we are in the same boat cic has never even sent out a reply to us after the updation, its been almost 3 years. we dont even know we are through or no, feeling pissed off, the whole life is screwed, just waiting for the reply now.
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Old Nov 17th 2007, 7:08 am
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Originally Posted by Sunny Dulai
thanks you guys for your helpful replies - question for andrew

the 3 points i got were for adaptabilty

but i proved with my uncles PR card and passport and bills that he is a resident living in Canada

point assessment by CIC London Officer :

Age 10 = correct

Education 15 = incorrect but possible grey are on how they interpreted my info

language 16 = correct as my native is English

2nd language 0 = correct as i don't know french

Experience 21 = correct

Arranged Employment 0 = correct

Adaptabilty 3 = incorrect as my wife a uncle as resident in Canada

any ideas ?????
Hi sunny,

As i e mailed you on the other day, approach Mr. Andrew immediately without any further delay.

In fact i had a similar problem, my application was refused initially, they did not award correct marks for my education and Relative in canada.

I appealed throgh Mr. Andrew, and me & Mr. Andrew won the battle with CIC London.

Act quickly without any further delay.
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Old Nov 17th 2007, 9:23 am
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hi guys

thanks for your nice replies

i am curious as to how much the appeal cost and how long it took via andrew miller

i already wasted £10,000 on this bloody thing - not gonna waste anymore

so angry with the whole thing now !!!

most immigration lawyers i emailed are saying we have a strong case but will cost from $3000-$10000

no way i'm gonna throw any more money down the pan

i will write a letter asking to reconsider the decision and send my wife's uncles info once again and see what happens...............
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Old Nov 17th 2007, 9:37 am
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Omg, this is awful at this stage for you guys, but please don't give up on the dream. You have already invested 3 yrs and a great deal of money in this. Fight for what you want.

Don't give up until you know you have exhausted every avenue. It may be one of lifes biggest regrets if you do.

Tons of luck sent your way.
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Hi Sunny,

It's not often I come on here now but I didn't want to read and run. I'm sorry you got refused - the same thing happened to us a few years ago, we were also just 2 points short. In all we spent 3 1/2 years trying to get in. We found it a very draining process.

I would write back to CHC asap and explain about your family living there (explain that you will forward documentary proof as soon as you have it) and ask them to reconsider their decision and to give you time to send them the necessary documents.

We were given 90 days to try and gain the 2 points we needed. If you write them an angry letter (which I'm sure you feel like writing) they will chuck it in the trash and you won't get anywhere. They make the final decision. I do understand how frustrated and disappointed you must be feeling right now Good luck.
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Sorry to hear that Sunny. Bureaucracy in Canada is at least as grinding as the UK, probably worse.

If you can afford it, get an immigration lawyer in Canada, rather than a "consultant". Immigration say it won't help your case, but if you are borderline, they certainly can.

Our company used a lawyer specialising in immigration.... total cost about 3000 bucks, but worth every penny. 50% up front, 50% for successful completion. Free assessment telephone call first. Look them up on google.

It has to make you think though, why is it "globalisation" seems to be such a one way street???
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Default Re: REFUSAL LETTER - HELP ANYONE - PLEASE

Originally Posted by Sunny Dulai
hi guys

thanks for your nice replies

i am curious as to how much the appeal cost and how long it took via andrew miller

i already wasted £10,000 on this bloody thing - not gonna waste anymore

so angry with the whole thing now !!!

most immigration lawyers i emailed are saying we have a strong case but will cost from $3000-$10000

no way i'm gonna throw any more money down the pan

i will write a letter asking to reconsider the decision and send my wife's uncles info once again and see what happens...............
Sunny

I know what you are going through. We tried everything to get an unjust and illogical decision reversed but to no avail. Judy in Calgary even raised our case with the Canadian PM!

I hope Andrew can sort it for you

All the best

Graham & Pauline
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Old Nov 18th 2007, 10:37 am
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Read - please guys this is the letter i will send to CIC about reconsidering our refusal based on points too low. i welcome any comments you have - good or bad - advice or anything i could add to make it better or indeed some things may need removing - thanks in advance guys.

Dear CIC,

Please can you reconsider the refusal on our PR skilled worker application.

To our calculations we had 70 points of which 5 points were allocated for having a relative in Canada in the adaptability section. The Visa officer on our case was Robert Miller.

The points for having my wife’s uncle in Canada were not included in the end result – I have no idea why so I have again included my uncle’s details confirming he is my wife’s dad’s brother who has been a PR in Canada for the past 18 years.

Please can our file be reconsidered on that basis and then we could pass the points to above 67 to 70 and fulfil our dream of moving to Canada.

I have summarised our application explaining why certain we took the steps we did as time progressed :


We applied for Skilled Worker PR application in September 2004 and received AOR in October 2004 stating a waiting of 18 months. We received delay letter in April 06 stating further delays.

Me and my wife went on a research trip in June 2006 and had interviews and very positive feedback from potential employers and chose one to apply for LMO and tempory work permit.

I wanted to fast track our case so I applied for tempory work permit and got the positive LMO from Canada in July 2006. I had received a job offer from the employer who applied for the LMO and got the 2 year work visa in August 2006 which was valid until August 2008.

As my children were 3 and 6 yrs old at the time I decided it was best for our family to move to Canada by myself and live the uncle I mentioned above. I didn’t want them to leave schools and my wife her job until we had the PR application fully approved as I wasn’t sure we would pass medicals due to my Hydatid Cysts condition.

I left the UK in September 2006 and CIC London emailed me stating my case would be fast tracked because I had the job in Canada and permit to work and job offer from employer.

I worked in Canada from Sept 2006 to Dec 12th 2006. I had arranged to fly back to the UK so I could see my family over Christmas and attend a hospital appointment with my specialist doctor at UCL tropical diseases hospital in London.

When I left in Sept 2006 I had already booked flights to back in Dec 2006 and then return on the 1st January 2007, I can show tickets/inventory if needed.

We received medical requests on 22nd Dec 2006 so in light of this I decided to stay in the UK with my family until the medicals were done in January 6th 2007 and the results sent via the DMP in Handsworth Wood in Birmingham.

I was very worried about the medicals as I have Hydatid Cysts in my stomach and on medication. I was worried the application would be declined on medical grounds.

In Early 2007 we received a letter from CIC London asking for additional reports from my doctor concerning the medical condition. I sent the reports and within a few weeks CIC sent another letter saying I had to give further reports after my CT Scan in May 2007.

After my CT Scan I had to wait to see my specialist doctor again in London (every 6 months). I saw Professor Chiodini in June 2007 but at the time he did not have the CT Scan results which were to come from a hospital in Birmingham. I explained to him that I was applying for Immigration to Canada and that I needed the report on that scan urgently.

2 months passed of me asking for the medical report and finally on 19th Aug 2007 I went to pick up the from the London doctor.

As I was in London I decided to personally deliver the report on the 20th Aug 2007.
I wanted to speak to a visa officer but was told by the receptionist that enquires about the case were no longer available. I filled out an enquiry form confirming I had sent additional updated information and the medical report and asking CIC if any further documents were required.

I also sent work permit, LMO, job offer, wage slips etc in Sept 2007.

The next letter from CIC was the refusal on not enough points and stating I could not establish my family in Canada. I was shocked at this as I thought I proved I could get a job and work permit in 2006. I know I couldn’t get the extra 10 points as I didn’t carry on living and working in Canada. I was not aware that I didn’t have enough points otherwise I would have done everything possible to pass.

In view of all the above can you please reconsider the decision – I will attach to this letter, all the information I can about my spouse’s uncle. This would hopefully take us over the required 67 points to 70.

Thank you
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Old Nov 18th 2007, 4:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Sunny Dulai
looking deep into what has gone on i now recall that when we had ***** as our original consultants (based in Mississauga - Ontario) we sent all our completed info to them

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we did not need ***** (con merchants) anymore as when i went to CIC london 2 yrs ago they advised me to forget them and deal with it myself and the nice women at CIC help desk put in our address for all future correspondance. i cannot get in contact with them anymore

what can i do now ??????
Regardless reported many times by participants in this and other forums their bad experience and dissatisfaction with service provided by your ex-representatives it is you who for no apparent, legal reason and without a cause (we did not need ***** ... anymore) ditched them, maybe without fulfilling your contractual obligations.

I just wonder (and wouldn't be surprised) if the possible follow-up reaction of your ex-reps was a factor in the reversal of initial assessment - you were initially assessed positively and received request for medicals with no need for interview. It indicates you got enough points at that time, which also may indicate that your ex-reps submitted your relative's evidence. Things changed later... possibly after your ex-reps found out that you revoked their authorization. Just a thought...

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