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Old Feb 11th 2019, 2:13 pm
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Hi,

Just recently been made redundant and on a Temp WP. My WP is valid to Sept 2019, but locked into my previous company, so legally I can stay in Canada but cannot work.

I understand it could take maybe up to 5 months(from Immigration website), if I can find another employer to sponsor me. Maybe longer as it took me a year to get the temp WP.

I am on a UK passport, but reading the WP in my passport, at the bottom it says:

this does not authorize re-entry

Can I leave Canada to visit the UK and return?

If I find another role, since I am already in Canada would it be quick to get a new WP, and timelines?

My partner has proposed to sponsor me, but unsure of the process as yet, but curious about the timelines?
I am looking into that.

Also she has proposed Marriage, I do not know if that would change things regarding visa and WP.

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Firstly, really sorry to hear this.

Originally Posted by evets
I understand it could take maybe up to 5 months(from Immigration website), if I can find another employer to sponsor me. Maybe longer as it took me a year to get the temp WP.
It shouldn't take anywhere near a year, I assume you had issues with your previous one if it took that long? You can get the TWP instantly at POE, it's the LMIA that takes time and it's usually around 3-4 months for that.

Your partner can sponsor you as long as you've been living together as husband and wife for a year or more, if you were married it's still spousal sponsorship so the same process. The only difference would be you wouldn't need to provide as much proof of your relationship, but other than that it's the same.

I'm assuming you haven't got a PR application in?

Best of luck finding a new employer & LMIA.

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Originally Posted by evets
Hi,

Just recently been made redundant and on a Temp WP. My WP is valid to Sept 2019, but locked into my previous company, so legally I can stay in Canada but cannot work.

I understand it could take maybe up to 5 months(from Immigration website), if I can find another employer to sponsor me. Maybe longer as it took me a year to get the temp WP.

I am on a UK passport, but reading the WP in my passport, at the bottom it says:

this does not authorize re-entry

Can I leave Canada to visit the UK and return?

If I find another role, since I am already in Canada would it be quick to get a new WP, and timelines?

My partner has proposed to sponsor me, but unsure of the process as yet, but curious about the timelines?
I am looking into that.

Also she has proposed Marriage, I do not know if that would change things regarding visa and WP.
Is your partner a Canadian citizen or a Canadian permanent resident? If so, do you think you could prove 'common law' (have you lived together for at least one year continuously and can prove it)?
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Firstly, really sorry to hear this.



It shouldn't take anywhere near a year, I assume you had issues with your previous one if it took that long? You can get the TWP instantly at POE, it's the LMIA that takes time and it's usually around 3-4 months for that.

Your partner can sponsor you as long as you've been living together as husband and wife for a year or more, if you were married it's still spousal sponsorship so the same process. The only difference would be you wouldn't need to provide as much proof of your relationship, but other than that it's the same.

I'm assuming you haven't got a PR application in?

Best of luck finding a new employer & LMIA.
Thanks, no not yet 1 year, that is 6 months away.

I did have issues with the TWP, as had a DUI 25 years ago and declared it.

Thank you for the clarification. Kind off sums up what I thought. Appreciated.
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Is your partner a Canadian citizen or a Canadian permanent resident? If so, do you think you could prove 'common law' (have you lived together for at least one year continuously and can prove it)?
She is PR and going through the citizenship process, which does take a while. I cannot prove common law, as she has only moved in with me.

I do understand, but was looking to see if I had other options as up to 5 months out of work may kill me or be a god send for upskilling.
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Originally Posted by evets
Thanks, no not yet 1 year, that is 6 months away.
Not sure what you mean by this? You don't need to have been in Canada for a year to get another TWP, or to apply for PR?

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I did have issues with the TWP, as had a DUI 25 years ago and declared it.
Still don't understand why on earth it took so long! If that is your only conviction you'd be deemed rehabilitated anyway, did you not just get your TWP at the airport when you arrived? Was it your LMIA that took a year?

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She is PR and going through the citizenship process, which does take a while. I cannot prove common law, as she has only moved in with me.

I do understand, but was looking to see if I had other options as up to 5 months out of work may kill me or be a god send for upskilling.
OK, so you would have to marry then if you're not common-law spouses. But spousal sponsorship will take longer than 5 months (figure about 10-12 months as a rough guide), so by the time you've got married and gone down that route you may be better off trying to find a sponsoring employer and getting a LMIA. Depending on your skillset and how in demand your job is, it could be a quicker route.

​​​​​​​Best of luck.
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Not sure what you mean by this? You don't need to have been in Canada for a year to get another TWP, or to apply for PR?



Still don't understand why on earth it took so long! If that is your only conviction you'd be deemed rehabilitated anyway, did you not just get your TWP at the airport when you arrived? Was it your LMIA that took a year?



OK, so you would have to marry then if you're not common-law spouses. But spousal sponsorship will take longer than 5 months (figure about 10-12 months as a rough guide), so by the time you've got married and gone down that route you may be better off trying to find a sponsoring employer and getting a LMIA. Depending on your skillset and how in demand your job is, it could be a quicker route.

Best of luck.
Thank you.

Still working out options, so thought I would post here for feedback.

So, reg: my current TWP and closed and having proved my LMAI already, it should be quicker, but all depends on the new job role?

It took so long because of the DUI. Extra paperwork and processing time. I do not understand either, Australia was far easier to enter.

Agreed about your last comment

Thank you and much appreciated.
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Originally Posted by evets
So, reg: my current TWP and closed and having proved my LMAI already, it should be quicker, but all depends on the new job role?
No it won't be any quicker - you need a new LMIA for a new job offer, you can't use the same one. Each one is job specific.

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It took so long because of the DUI. Extra paperwork and processing time. I do not understand either, Australia was far easier to enter.
Canada should have been easy too. You would have been deemed rehabilitated if that was your only offence, so wouldn't have need to get criminal rehab, and could have just got the Temp Work Permit at the airport when you arrived - a total processing time of approx 10 minutes. There shouldn't even have been any paperwork (other than the LMIA). If it really did take a year then there must have been another factor as that's crazy. Did you apply yourself and if so, how? Or did somebody else (immi consultant or lawyer) apply for you? Any particular reason you applied in advance rather than getting it at the airport upon arrival? I'm wondering if there were complications you either weren't aware of or haven't mentioned, if so, then expect a new TWP app to take the same amount of time.
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
No it won't be any quicker - you need a new LMIA for a new job offer, you can't use the same one. Each one is job specific.

Agreed.

Canada should have been easy too. You would have been deemed rehabilitated if that was your only offence, so wouldn't have need to get criminal rehab, and could have just got the Temp Work Permit at the airport when you arrived - a total processing time of approx 10 minutes. There shouldn't even have been any paperwork (other than the LMIA). If it really did take a year then there must have been another factor as that's crazy. Did you apply yourself and if so, how? Or did somebody else (immi consultant or lawyer) apply for you? Any particular reason you applied in advance rather than getting it at the airport upon arrival? I'm wondering if there were complications you either weren't aware of or haven't mentioned, if so, then expect a new TWP app to take the same amount of time.
LPMG applied on behalf of my company, so no understanding of there process. I did not mention for my application to Australia. I had no understanding of the proxess at the time, and this is what the lawyers told me. No other complications I am/was aware off.

Just reviewing options at the moment, and with Brexit happening. Sheesh.

Even Australia is looking bad.

To confirm, if another CA company was to hire me, how long do you think the process would take?
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LPMG applied on behalf of my company, so no understanding of there process.
No idea who LPMG is but sounds like the delay was on them, not the visa process. No way it should have taken anywhere near that long. Next time just do it yourself and get your TWP at the border or airport!!

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To confirm, if another CA company was to hire me, how long do you think the process would take?
Once you've found a job offer from a sponsoring employer, then they need to apply for the LMIA, which usually takes around 3-4 months.

HTH, best of luck.
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
No idea who LPMG is but sounds like the delay was on them, not the visa process. No way it should have taken anywhere near that long. Next time just do it yourself and get your TWP at the border or airport!!



Once you've found a job offer from a sponsoring employer, then they need to apply for the LMIA, which usually takes around 3-4 months.

HTH, best of luck.
OK perfect, kinda the answer I was expecting. Was just double checking.

Finally would a company wait that long?
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Finally would a company wait that long?
Only they can answer that.

Applying for the LMIA, an employer has to try and hire PR or Canadian for the job and only if none of the applicants are suitable, demonstrate to ESDC why they did not hire Canadian or PR. It is much more than a formality these days. Makes it tough when waiting in the wings for a job.
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Originally Posted by evets
OK perfect, kinda the answer I was expecting. Was just double checking.

Finally would a company wait that long?
Your current company waited a year? So you must have some pretty specialist skills, hopefully another company will be prepared to pay for the LMIA and wait for you too.

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Thank you guys, been a ton of redundancies. Canadian employees also.
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Thank you guys, been a ton of redundancies. Canadian employees also.
Is that just in your company, or across your industry? If your industry, a LMIA is going to be very tricky to get, and the fact that Canadians will be applying for the same jobs as you won't help with getting a LMIA either unfortunately. Hopefully your job is in demand enough though.
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