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Recommended Lawyers that specialise in Canadian Immigration (pref. in the UK)

Old Aug 8th 2016, 9:10 pm
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Hi there,

My partner and I have been looking into emigrating to the states but given how utterly difficult it is proving, and as certain parts of Canada are right on the cusp of where we wanted to be in the USA anyway so will have similar landscapes, we want to look into Canada as a very great alternative.

We've done our own research and I even have a friend who is going through the process as we speak but I wanted to ask if anyone has any recommendations for lawyers preferably based in London, UK, who specialise in this type of immigration?

Would be really grateful to hear from any of you who have experience of this.

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Old Aug 9th 2016, 12:30 am
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You're unlikely to need a lawyer to immigrate to Canada (unless your existing research has told you that you will have serious problems to overcome that you haven't shared).

The best recommendation we can give is to identify the 'stream' you want to move through, as that will impact everything else. Are you skilled workers? Do you already have a job offer? Is one of you a Canadian citizen looking to sponsor the other? Are you tightly linked to a particular province through family or employment history, that would make them sponsor you?
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Immigrating to Canada is way less complicated than the US, and about 98% of people from the UK can do it without a lawyer. Unless you have some really messy circumstances, you can do it yourself and save yourself a few thousand quid.

Post a bit about yourselves - ages, occupations, family makeup, etc, and we can give you some pointers on getting started.
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No messy circumstances, I think we just really benefited from speaking to a lawyer for the US stuff so wanted some more of the same. Just to understand the process in more detail.

I did check our points systems and we'd be looking to go in via my wife who has a degree (I don't). We have a good amount of points but not enough to go in without a supporting job offer.

I think what i'm hoping for from a lawyer is to understand more about the process, the steps we must take and in what order, how we go about applying for jobs in Canada and going through the process. I just feel so much more reassured to be able to speak to someone who's job it is to do this you know? Although appreciate it may be a waste of money and an expenditure we may not need to make.
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Try Balvinder, he's a well qualified and experienced guy and has worked in both Canada and the UK: UK to Canada Immigration - Visa2Canada - About Pahl & Associates
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Immigration Lawyers are probably an unnecessary hindrance for Canadian immigration for 99% of people.

That extra layer will just slow things down and make it more expensive for you.

If you don't meet CIC's criteria, a Lawyer isn't going to make any difference.

Get an Express Entry profile going. Look at PNP requirements for whichever Province or Territory you are looking at.

Plenty of information on this forum. And it's free. Most of it is useful too!
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Thanks guys!

What about the actual act of finding a job though. What i'm trying to understand is that once you're in the system, is it then and only then you can apply for jobs to help boost your points? When should you look at applying, how long does it take once you get a job etc etc these are the kind of things I want to speak to someone about really so we know the process in and out.
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Once you get a job offer from the job bank (or a job outside the job bank with LMIA or a PNP Nomination), you get 600 extra points and automatically get an ITA (Invitation To Apply).

From then, the '6 month' timescale starts - CIC aims to process 'most' applications to the point of granting Permanent Residency within six months of ITA.

You must add to that any delay that is caused by you - ie in getting Medicals, English (or French) test, Police Checks, Fingerprints (Only if requested) supplying supporting information, responding to queries from CIC, paying fees etc


I was an Express Entry 'guinea pig' last year, getting my ITA at the end of February (ie 7-8 weeks after Express Entry started), although I was already here, with a job and on a TFW permit. My PR was granted exactly 6 months after my ITA.

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Honestly, it's a bit of a chicken-and-egg situation.

If you don't have enough points (450ish) to get an invitation without a job offer, then you need to get a job offer first.

In order for an employer to give you a job offer, they have to get approved for an LMIA (Labour Market Impact Assessment). That means they have to advertise the job nationally for 4 weeks and then demonstrate that no suitable candidates within Canada applied. The government then gives them permission to hire a foreign worker in the form of an LMIA. If you can find an employer who is willing to advertise the job and do the paperwork and pay the fee ($1000) then you can get the job offer first.

Have you looked into any of the other provincial nominee streams? What does your other half do for work?

Honestly, if you give us as much detail as you're comfortable with you can save yourself a lot of hassle. We have lots of people here who have worked for immigration lawyers in the past, or have just been around for years and know the systems and are happy to help.

Otherwise use the search function to find lawyer recommendations - you have some in this thread - but you'll find that 98% of the people here do their own research, ask lots of questions, and sort it themselves.
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Ok those last two posts were hugely useful!

Questions from me:

So is it a better practice to go and begin the application, do your language tests, medicals etc and be in the system, and then be looking for jobs to bump up the points? What i mean is, it sounds like getting some of the preliminary stuff done first and being in the system looking for jobs will help when you do get an offer? Is that possible for you to do though?

What do we do?


My partner is a senior graphic designer / illustrator. Has a relevant degree and a good amount of years experience in her field. She's also worked for some pretty big names and has worked on a project that won an award.

I don't have a degree, and have learnt on the job. I currently work in marketing and communications but am considering a change which may lead me back to education, or potentially progressing in my current career but moving slightly sideways.

We are both around 34 years old, married, British passports although my wife also has a Peruvian passport as she's originally from Peru. We both want to work which was part of the issue with moving to the USA. Only limited options for us being able to both work and we can't afford to live off one salary, nor do we want to. When there's so much beautiful country to get out and enjoy, the thought of not being able to afford to doesn't even bear thinking about.

Thanks all, hugely appreciate your support and guidance.
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This PDF gives you the basic info for Express Entry:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub/ee-factsheet-applicant-en.pdf

First, check your Eligibility here:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/ctc-vac/ee-start.asp

Before you do ANYTHING else, the Principal Applicant needs to do an English Test. Look for IELTS on Google. The test results are valid for 2 years and the cost is about £200. Yes, even if you are British....

You will also probably need to get your Qualifications accredited. That costs money and takes time.

As soon as you have met these requirements and submitted your Express Entry Profile, you will enter the Pool of candidates.

I would personally advise getting your Medicals at this point (about £300 for each person), if you have more than 440 Points, as you might get an ITA straight away.

If not, look for jobs to get an offer.

If you get an ITA, immediately apply for Police Checks (UK and Peru and anywhere else you have doing more than 6 months). If the Peru one could take a long time, consider applying for it beforehand. If your check comes back with 'No Live Trace' or any criminal record, then you will need to get further info, which takes 7 weeks.
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Thanks for that withabix. When I did the 'check your eligibility' we were somewhere in the low '400's' but I guess we wouldn't get an actual score until we go through the process.

Do i as the supporting candidate need to do a language and medical as well and also get any qualifications accredited? Or just the principal applicant?

I think we found that she wouldn't need to get anything from Peru. I can't remember the rules around that but she's pretty much lived here for the majority of her life (since she was 6 years old). Thank goodness as it would be a nightmare to get hold of anything like that.

One of the main differences with visas in Canada to those in USA, was that as her wife, if she got a working visa, i could also work. Where as in the USA i couldn't. Just double checking that is how you know it to be as well?
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How many points do you have looking at CRA?

If it were me, it might be worth trying to work out if you can even get a job offer. How likely is it that your wife has skills that would make it impossible for the company to hire a Canadian over your wife?

You can go ahead and do your language tests etc, if you are happy to shell out the money first. IELTS is good for 2 years, I think.

Use this site to work out your points: Express Entry – Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) Criteria You can work out exactly what you'll get. You can take a wild guess for the language scores. A native English speaker would probably get max or close to max points. Your wife, not sure, assuming her English is fine since she's lived in UK since Age 6. Just make a best guess, anyway.

Don't worry about the medical yet. IT's only valid for a year and you don't need a lot of lead time to get an appointment. It's also pretty pricey.

And yes, if your wife got a work permit, you'd also be able to work.
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I'd have to check again, but I think it was somewhere between 403 - 412 when i last looked.

I guess define 'impossible' i'm sure most of the jobs that are given away to internationals 'could' be filled in country, but it's bringing in specific skills and people that they want and i guess it's how you position it surely? Bringing them in for their experience and knowledge? When you say 'might be worth trying to work out if you can even get a job offer' what do you mean? How would you find that out?
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I would personally advise getting your Medicals at this point (about £300 for each person), if you have more than 440 Points, as you might get an ITA straight away.
I disagree with this.

It is best to wait until you have your ITA to get the medicals. The panel physicians listed on CIC website (as long as you are in a country with a few options) can usually get you in within 1 week/2 weeks. (I've had 3 medicals - 1 in the UK and Canada for my IEC and then the last one for my PR)

The reason why its good to delay this is that when you get your COPR, you only have one year from the date of your medicals to enter Canada. Of course you can do a quick landing (you land, activate your PR and return back to your own country) but at the point the residency obligations begin (730 days within a 5 year period)

Also just a heads up that the draws for ITAs are around 480 mark. Todays draw was 490 and it hasn't been lower since April time.

This is the link to look at previous scores:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/rounds.asp

There is speculation that the scores will come down again but who knows

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